MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[Vecna]

and its 2:30 am and im once again here, sitting, regretting getting sucked into this vortex.

Seriously good to see you, vecna.

yeah, it feels very comfortable in all the wrong ways to be back

[worcej]

I like Jaime pestering me and others about his own wagon, a scum is more likely to just say "oh, fair enough, but you're wrong" Usually. Depends on meta.

Still see my original reasons to vote as good ones. Jamie doesn't seem super interested in original scumhunting. Which I'm just gonna be less forgiving of if there's a lot of noise in the thread. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you bandwagon voted Eden and then just parked there all day, right?

I disagree with this only because Jamie is a confrontational player in any alignment.

[worcej]

Good morning,

Someone mentioned pyxxy case and overall post being weak sauce. Going to look that over.

Byz pissing off Jamie. Is funny.

Why did Jamie ignore my and ghug discussion in regards to him? He didn't acknowledge it.

Neon you can vote for celaph if you want to.

Curious - what’s your opinion of Jamie as a player?

[Vecna]

Also I'm like not sure if you're missing my opinions or what, but I've been making reads this whole time. I'm pretty confident that Sabi, Vecna, and you are town, and that gin Rumi is scum.

you sure were very quick with your declaration on my alignment though. Like, I know thats how it works for some people, but it was 3 shitposts, and they werent even good shitposts.

[Vecna]

(but i still agree with your reads, although my certainty on rumi isnt super high).

[Rumi Tobari]

(but i still agree with your reads, although my certainty on rumi isnt super high).

Ask me some questions and I can try to answer them very clumsily because I have no idea what I'm doing.

[Vecna]

Oh, in that case, you should vote Chaqa, he’s mafia. If you reckon you have time to read some ISOs, here is a repository of his last few mainline games (all town) as compared to this game. You will notice that he has expressed far fewer meaningful opinions in this game compared to his recent town games, which is a general pattern and the closest you will get to a “tell” for him. He’s quite good at mafia play, but his Kryptonite is that no matter how busy he is or how many things he can think to do instead of care or post, as town he will eventually develop some sound opinions and push them. As mafia he really likes to stay flexible and go with the flow.

I don’t think you believe any of that. The Eden I know would never link to an entire game’s dump of posts and use it as proof, he’d have 10 cited examples per page per minute.

Not the Eden you know who cranked out 10 pages for a brief today while flooding the thread with content. I’m too old for this shit, I think I pulled my wrist just now

defensiveness in the face of overwhelming sarcasm. its cute seeing the two of you at it.

[Vecna]

(but i still agree with your reads, although my certainty on rumi isnt super high).

Ask me some questions and I can try to answer them very clumsily because I have no idea what I'm doing.

My style is not really to interview, but just to observe and pass mediocre judgement.

Do you.....-like-...that?

[Rumi Tobari]

(but i still agree with your reads, although my certainty on rumi isnt super high).

Ask me some questions and I can try to answer them very clumsily because I have no idea what I'm doing.

My style is not really to interview, but just to observe and pass mediocre judgement.

Do you.....-like-...that?

Like what? Leashes and chains? Sure as long as I'm holding the leash.

I don't mind that you do that, I was just offering to help you get a better read on me. Though because I've never played I ahve no idea how to interpret most things and can only filter this through my experience in general oscial situations.

[Vecna]

not overly thrilled by darg btw. he seems to rely a bit too much on easy points.

also, why make the statement you want me to participate so you can apply your read on me? why would you say that as town? feels like a bit on the busy-work side of things.

Do you think you have a tell like Darg said you do?

Also hi Vecna, I missed u

Theres definately something certain people tend to pick up on after enough exposure, although im not quite sure what it is. The statement is consistent though, Darg claims to be able to read me every game (and I also think he singled me out correctly in my last game as non-town).

Also, hi, likewise. We can do that solve/towncore-y thing u were talking about before.

You and Eden just need to chill and steer clear of eachother. Both probably town, just a mismatch in personalities.

[Vecna]

Ask me some questions and I can try to answer them very clumsily because I have no idea what I'm doing.

My style is not really to interview, but just to observe and pass mediocre judgement.

Do you.....-like-...that?

Like what? Leashes and chains? Sure as long as I'm holding the leash.

I don't mind that you do that, I was just offering to help you get a better read on me. Though because I've never played I ahve no idea how to interpret most things and can only filter this through my experience in general oscial situations.

Its probably best if you dont let inexperience stop you from just blurting out whatevers on your mind. Sniff/snuff out all that kinky stuff and let loose whatever is your tool of preference n all that.

[Rumi Tobari]

My style is not really to interview, but just to observe and pass mediocre judgement.

Do you.....-like-...that?

Like what? Leashes and chains? Sure as long as I'm holding the leash.

I don't mind that you do that, I was just offering to help you get a better read on me. Though because I've never played I ahve no idea how to interpret most things and can only filter this through my experience in general oscial situations.

Its probably best if you dont let inexperience stop you from just blurting out whatevers on your mind. Sniff/snuff out all that kinky stuff and let loose whatever is your tool of preference n all that.

Don't let inexperience stop me from blurting on wahtevers on my mind? Kay.

I kind of lowkey feel like Sabi is doing this whole white knight thing for Neon.

Or was I supposed to let social appropriateness stop me from blurt on things on my mind?

[Vecna]

I’ll be honest, most of my reads on most people here are going to be meta-driven because I’ve known a lot of these people for forever. Stripping away meta context you shouldn’t be particularly moved by my read on Chaqa bc he’s not abnormal relative to the rest of the thread, only relative to what I’ve seen of past town play.

now enjoy your guest, we can catch up later, we’re not killing each other d1

Eden time to make current game related reads since there’s new people

I’ve made plenty. But I guess an update is in order since some of the absentees arrived. List is sorted within ranks by signup order, no significance to order within a rank.

Solid Town: Rumi, Bona
Satisfactory D1: worcej, damo, rivera, Sabi, Neon, Byz, Vecna
Still Not Here: bo
Here, But I’m Not Sure: pyxxy
Killable: darg, ghug, Jamie, Chaqa, celaph

I’m less inclined to get after celaph than I was in our last game together, because it did appear to me that celaph genuinely wasn’t around to start the game. But I think I’m seeing more of the in-the-background, surface-level analytics that I saw in past mafia games. Less inclined to pursue it this time around because I’m pretty confident he actually showed up ~20 pages late, so he may just be catching up. That said, he’s clearly in killable to me.

Somewhere in my arguing with Sabi, I caught myself typing “Frankly, it’s like you can’t even understand why I might think you’re suspicious here,” which made me realize Sabi is probably just town. And ever since the more heated discussion earlier in the day, Sabi’s inquiries and insights have markedly improved in my eyes and definitely reflect the growth they alleged occurred since their last game here. So I’m down with a D1 pass and generally feeling alright about Sabi.

Vecna’s looked solid in limited time. He’s been out for quite a while and probably busy during this game so far, but what he’s shown seems all good.

I don’t think pyxxy has earned a D1 pass yet, but I found myself wanting to put pyx there because his posts have seemed alright.

Killing bo is a massive cop-out and also means no snowy sub, so that option is a huge no-go for me.

Why are rumi and bona solid town though? just some basic simpletonian explenation will do.

[Vecna]

Like what? Leashes and chains? Sure as long as I'm holding the leash.

I don't mind that you do that, I was just offering to help you get a better read on me. Though because I've never played I ahve no idea how to interpret most things and can only filter this through my experience in general oscial situations.

Its probably best if you dont let inexperience stop you from just blurting out whatevers on your mind. Sniff/snuff out all that kinky stuff and let loose whatever is your tool of preference n all that.

Don't let inexperience stop me from blurting on wahtevers on my mind? Kay.

I kind of lowkey feel like Sabi is doing this whole white knight thing for Neon.

Or was I supposed to let social appropriateness stop me from blurt on things on my mind?

you'd have to try pretty hard to have your levels of inappropriateness raise any type of eyebrows around here.

[Vecna]

No. If I were you were have been townread by me with a lot more conviction. You are just null atm

sabi feels pretty genuine

worcej so far doesnt feel like he's trying to fake shit. his stuff all just feels pretty mellow

i rarely read fuck all, but i dont see why people are suspicious of eden. feels pretty towny in his poking overall. his comments on chaqa feel pretty standard.

Is mellow bad to you?

nah, think ur probably town so far. if memory serves, you always try slightly too hard to fake townyness as scum, and im yet to spot anything resembling that so far.

[Vecna]

Hot Take: PF2E >>>>> 5e

how is that even a hot take?

unless BG2 was 5e where you could fucking timestop and spell sequencer+contingency-oneshot dragons. then youre fucking coked out of your pea-brain.

[Vecna]

also, baldurs gate3 is shaping up to be the biggest atrocity of remakes known to man.

you just do not make a game thats so much worse than any of the divinity titles, and then attach that name to it. bad belgium people, bad.

[pyxxy]

@chaqa... thoughts on pyxxy? (Anyone, actually)
Looking at the larger popular kid wagons, i could vote for celaph or bo... but not jump up and down crazy about either one.

Pyxxy is in the same pool as bo, celaph, and others whose participation is basically "nominal" in my mind.

Vecna would be in there too, but I'm already thoroughly convinced he's town.

I guess voting for Celaph really does get people's attention

[Rumi Tobari]

Hot Take: PF2E >>>>> 5e

how is that even a hot take?

unless BG2 was 5e where you could fucking timestop and spell sequencer+contingency-oneshot dragons. then youre fucking coked out of your pea-brain.

Wait. Are you someone I can ask about tabletop games?

[pyxxy]

See how Byz ran off as soon as I exposed his scum tactics.

He literally said he's busy. The world doesn't revolve around you Jamie

he's byzy