MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#901 Post by Rumi Tobari » Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:31 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:29 pm
Also, why are we flipping bo shit for not posting while not saying anything about celaph? Did I miss a reasoning post somewhere?
I think bo was just hte first non poster people jumped on
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#902 Post by BesharamSabi » Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:35 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:22 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:59 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:38 pm
What do you feel is off/different about Eden, Chaqa, rdr, damo, and myself?
Already talked about eden.

Chaqa hasn't provided any game related content so can't say.

Rdr posted too little so can't say much.

I. Already explained damo.

I don't really have thoughts on your slot tbh. You are being more aggressive than usual since last two games you were afk/inactive.
So how are you concluding we may be rusty?

Maybe I grabbed the perfect random selection of participants but your lack of depth here has me intrigued.
I think you are twisting my words to find an Agenda.

Idk how you expect me to have content to talk about Chaqa and rdr when one just shit posted every post so far and the other has less than five posts. If I was bullshitting you I would have faked a read Instead of being honest about the lack of their content.

What is your motivation about this?
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#903 Post by Byz » Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:36 pm

I don't know how to quote with the ISO feature, but Rivera's explanation satisfied me. That reaction I had to your post was genuine a minor gut thing for me, and I can buy that Rivera had the same gut read and TR me for the mindmeld. Ofc that does nothing to make me townread them, cause it's easily fakeable, but I don't find it inherently scummy. The meta thing I'll acknowledge, though.

I have work to do tonight to make better wagons, sheesh
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#904 Post by dargorygel » Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:40 pm

President Eden wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:10 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:04 pm
President Eden wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:01 pm

We could always ask Sabi to pick between two random names and then post-hoc rationalize the decision as not being random

Or we could vote rivera

Or Sabi actually
See, this is the kind of thing, eden dear, that looks like you're changing masks/stances. Last post you were professorial. This one you are snide. I am not sure whatvto make of it. It feels like you are insecure scum reaching for a persona. ::shrug::
I am teasing. Though the latter two suggestions (more rivera) were real ones

I am starting to be genuinely irritated that people read negativity into my posts despite what I reckon to be overwhelming evidence to the contrary from many games here. Surely people should know by now that if I’m genuinely wanting to make you feel bad, you will not be able to mistake it for anything else
I saw the teasing... thus snide instead of mean... i have not seen you being negative
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#905 Post by Byz » Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:40 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:27 pm
For having 47 posts, I feel like Jamie has done nothing of merit other than providing me opportunities to troll.
I like this post, I'll look at Jamie's ISO tonight and see it it tracks (unless I forget to/need to do GM stuff)

Eden v Jamie sounds decent if true
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#906 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:41 pm

President Eden wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:51 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:50 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:49 pm

that doesn't make sense
Yeah, you're right.

Who shall we kill?
La Riviera
I really hate when people misspell my name, you should be scum.
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#907 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:43 pm

BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:59 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:38 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:15 pm
I will say that Bona and Jamie feel the most like their old selves so idk what that says about anything.
What do you feel is off/different about Eden, Chaqa, rdr, damo, and myself?
Already talked about eden.

Chaqa hasn't provided any game related content so can't say.

Rdr posted too little so can't say much.

I. Already explained damo.

I don't really have thoughts on your slot tbh. You are being more aggressive than usual since last two games you were afk/inactive.
Aggressive Worcej is more likely town.
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#908 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:48 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:43 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:59 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:38 pm
What do you feel is off/different about Eden, Chaqa, rdr, damo, and myself?
Already talked about eden.

Chaqa hasn't provided any game related content so can't say.

Rdr posted too little so can't say much.

I. Already explained damo.

I don't really have thoughts on your slot tbh. You are being more aggressive than usual since last two games you were afk/inactive.
Aggressive Worcej is more likely town.
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#909 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:49 pm

whoops
meant to put agree in there
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#910 Post by Chaqa » Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:04 pm

How do I write on my name tag
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#911 Post by BesharamSabi » Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:05 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:43 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:59 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:38 pm
What do you feel is off/different about Eden, Chaqa, rdr, damo, and myself?
Already talked about eden.

Chaqa hasn't provided any game related content so can't say.

Rdr posted too little so can't say much.

I. Already explained damo.

I don't really have thoughts on your slot tbh. You are being more aggressive than usual since last two games you were afk/inactive.
Aggressive Worcej is more likely town.
Aggressive and wrong means worcej is town
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#912 Post by President Eden » Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:11 pm

I tend to agree that worcej is a town lean, though for different reasons. It’s not about any aggression—I don’t think worcej has been particularly aggressive in the first place, but to the extent he may have been, that’s just a personality interaction that’s role-independent.

worcej is a busy guy—young kids, job, etc.—and I find you can often read him by investment level in the game. When he’s mafia and only has to keep up enough appearances to avoid being the kill for the day, he tends to let IRL commitments get in the way of posting a lot more. When he’s town and actually has to solve, he manages to make time. It’s not that he just so happens to be busy when he’s mafia, it’s that he’s always busy and you can generally figure him out by whether he manages to find time for the game anyway or allow being busy to interfere.

That rivera is the source of this insight into worcej being town isn’t lost on me. I’m not sure whether and how that affects my read on him yet. It’s an insight he could give away as mafia, but it’s also the more salient and concrete observation I’m used to him having as town. I’ll give him credit for pointing it out while reserving judgment on whether I need to move my vote and to whom.
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#913 Post by President Eden » Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:15 pm

I think I have seen enough from worcej, damo, Rumi, Bona, Neon, and Byz not to vote them today. Rumi and Bona I’m actually pretty confident are just town and never getting my vote. The rest are a little more touch-and-go but still looking alright so far.

bo, celaph, pyxxy and Vecna haven’t participated enough (if at all) to warrant a read one way or the other. Killable I guess, but not inspiring since they’re just lurking.

That leaves me with darg, ghug, Jamie, Chaqa, and Sabi as people who have been active but haven’t really distinguished themselves to me as townie, and rivera who I kind of suspect but admittedly am not as solid on as I was several hours ago. I think I’d like to kill in this last pool of six, or at least have them stand out as townie in some way.
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#914 Post by ghug » Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:20 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:45 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:39 am
Chumbucket wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:37 am


Nah I still think he’s a beta male
Do you think he lied about having read the setup?
I’m relatively sure Eden didn’t read the setup
Seconded lol
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#915 Post by ghug » Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:21 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:50 am
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:49 am
Rumi Tobari wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:46 am

wait. is the "their names look similar" thing serious, or is it just more meming?
I keep confusing Princess’s posts and Eden’s posts.

Both are two word names with a P first word.
See?

SEE?

It wasn't just me.
No, it's a real thing.
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#916 Post by President Eden » Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:28 pm

ghug wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:20 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:45 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:39 am


Do you think he lied about having read the setup?
I’m relatively sure Eden didn’t read the setup
Seconded lol
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#917 Post by ghug » Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:29 pm

BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:41 pm
President Eden wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:32 pm
Just to elaborate on my last post, the current state of my wagon is as follows:

1. Byz — ostensibly randomly picked between me and ghug for a random wagon, deferred to Sabi who chose me, then got high on his own supply and forced a very weak tonal read as a fig leaf

2. Sabi — was offered the chance to meme vote me, did, then made up something about vibes as a fig leaf

3. darg — chose for himself a narrative where I am putting on masks (which doesn’t describe my play in any context), found my behavior suspicious after reading it looking for suspicion, voted me

4. Jamie — pretended not to understand humor, voted me

Literally any of these people could have done this as any alignment. Byz is the only one that I consciously gave some credit for probably coming from town (“high on his own supply”). All three of the others are well within conceivable town or mafia range. My wagon was arbitrarily chosen and arbitrarily post-hoc rationalized, so trying to determine whether anybody is busing or going with the flow is going to be a fool’s errand. Which is why openly declaring a random wagon is silly, and why trying to backtrack and pretend it was based on something real doesn’t fool anyone.
Fine. I feel more confident that ghug is a hit anyways

##VOTE ghug
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#918 Post by ghug » Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:30 pm

Princess Neon wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:46 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:42 pm
Princess Neon wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:39 pm


It likely will be at some point I think yes.
Can also work the other way. Benefit of the doubt and all that.
It can sure. But it is far more likely wolves use a general newness to Mafia to push a narrative where in they can use seeds of doubt. Say...in assuming an off hand remark is a scum slip in a grand sea of obvious towniness
This is the webDip way.
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#919 Post by ghug » Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:36 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:19 pm
President Eden wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:11 pm
Yea the thing about Rumi is that if you take their personality at face value it seems very hard to believe they could be mafia

I think somebody who openly acknowledges difficulties with social dynamics and cues would be a lot less cavalier about pointing out their self-perceived contradictions. (source, there’s probably more but lol phoneposting)

If the whole thing is an act then sure, but I don’t think it is, that would be pretty wild.

Plus Rumi townslipped

So yea Rumi town
Also townreading Rumi but where is the townslip please?
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#920 Post by ghug » Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:38 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:21 pm
Princess Neon wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:15 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:13 pm
I don’t disregard it, but I don’t trust it. The fundamental problem for you though is relying on Sabi’s opinion if you by itself makes me want to flip you more on D1 to gain more information on Sabi going forward.
There are far better ways to get actually pertinent information out of me.

But let me ask you why are you more or less likely to believe my answer to that question over any other?

Nobody believes self meta but everyone believes whatever you say about your experience even though it's extremely easy for me to lie about that as well no?
You not actually answering my original question has been far more damning than any possible malicious thing you were concerned about.

You wanting to ‘protect’ yourself over engaging is troublesome and a great D1 kill.
I'm really bored of this discussion. She clearly has a chip on her shoulder about this question, which means not answering it doesn't tell us a lot about her alignment, she's clearly played a lot, which answers the question.

I don't like not answering it but I don't see the need to dwell on it.
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