MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[BesharamSabi]

I too am fucking annoyed at both Rumi and Bo fucking twisting my friendship with Neon.

I really do regret inviting people here. I'm probably never doing this again.

[Rumi Tobari]

Considering that an hour ago I clarified iwth this

Watching the back and forth in which you don't even acknowledge this is just annoying me and making me more inclined to distrust you. And this whole "always a wolf to this slot" thing disregards how multiple times I have said that certainties and absolutes blind us to changing outcomes in an evolving game.

This too. I was granting the premise of a tunnel for sake of argument, because I dislike the dismissiveness even if you really were tunneling, since Neon has already lock cleared you. The overwhelmingly obvious thing to do in that situation is to work with the person you are lock clearing who is tunneling you and helping them out of the tunnel, not being dismissive. Like, obvious as a first principle of basic human interaction, let alone in a game where 25% of the players are actively trying to obscure the hunt for the truth.

But even granting the premise is going too far because at least as far as I can see, you’re not tunneling and you’re being quite objective about your concerns and reasoning.

To be fair I've openly acknowledged my lock clear isn't a lock clear anymore. And tbf I think it is a tunnel and will continue to be a tunnel. I think the basis of their suspicion on Sabi is disingenuous, I think they have repeatedly used language that attempts to push a narrative that doesn't exist since your so big on what the words mean at face value and not reading the intent behind them.

Holy shit. AM I ALLOWED TO FUCKING BE WRONG?

I Get it. I am not allowed to have opinions. From now on. You tell me how to vote for and I'll do it. Done.

[BesharamSabi]

Neon has a partner.

I very much have shit going on in my life where I don't have the emotional capacity for romantic feelings.

Stop fucking twisting our friendship

[snowy801]

This too. I was granting the premise of a tunnel for sake of argument, because I dislike the dismissiveness even if you really were tunneling, since Neon has already lock cleared you. The overwhelmingly obvious thing to do in that situation is to work with the person you are lock clearing who is tunneling you and helping them out of the tunnel, not being dismissive. Like, obvious as a first principle of basic human interaction, let alone in a game where 25% of the players are actively trying to obscure the hunt for the truth.

But even granting the premise is going too far because at least as far as I can see, you’re not tunneling and you’re being quite objective about your concerns and reasoning.

To be fair I've openly acknowledged my lock clear isn't a lock clear anymore. And tbf I think it is a tunnel and will continue to be a tunnel. I think the basis of their suspicion on Sabi is disingenuous, I think they have repeatedly used language that attempts to push a narrative that doesn't exist since your so big on what the words mean at face value and not reading the intent behind them.

Holy shit. AM I ALLOWED TO FUCKING BE WRONG?

I Get it. I am not allowed to have opinions. From now on. You tell me how to vote for and I'll do it. Done.

Yes sheep me and you shalln't be led astray

[rdrivera2005]

This is all reasonable but how long after EOD did you get home? Why not post when you got home explaining why you didn't vote?

Because I had better things to do like staying with my family?

I mean yeah that's what you said last game sorry I'm not trying to critique you for having a family.

I should have said it more generally. In prior games you were happy to volunteer your thoughts on the thread by N1-07:00 or so.
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Including another time when in addition to adding your perspective to the thread, you also apologized for missing EOD.
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You didn't show up in this thread, tonight, until bo slandered you.

You've been on the back foot so I don't hold it against you that you haven't posted any opinions yet. Despite you saying that you have a lot of town reads...

I really don't get where I said anyone sucks in this game. In fact I have a lot of town reads and don't have any strong scum read so either you are confusing me with other player or just plain inventing things which is weird.

Idk, sorry rdr, you just seem off in this game :/

Well, I think your links just prove that the EOD isn't great for me as it's exactly when I am going home.

I don't think I need or should justify why I don't post much at night. To be honest I skipped a lot of pages today and don't know when I will be able to catch up.

Like I said I have pretty good town reads of Rumi, Sabi, Eden, Neon, Worcej and you. And Snowy.

I am a bit suspicious of Jamiet and Bo, maybe Bona. The others are just null.

[President Eden]

Considering that an hour ago I clarified iwth this

Watching the back and forth in which you don't even acknowledge this is just annoying me and making me more inclined to distrust you. And this whole "always a wolf to this slot" thing disregards how multiple times I have said that certainties and absolutes blind us to changing outcomes in an evolving game.

This too. I was granting the premise of a tunnel for sake of argument, because I dislike the dismissiveness even if you really were tunneling, since Neon has already lock cleared you. The overwhelmingly obvious thing to do in that situation is to work with the person you are lock clearing who is tunneling you and helping them out of the tunnel, not being dismissive. Like, obvious as a first principle of basic human interaction, let alone in a game where 25% of the players are actively trying to obscure the hunt for the truth.

But even granting the premise is going too far because at least as far as I can see, you’re not tunneling and you’re being quite objective about your concerns and reasoning.

To be fair I've openly acknowledged my lock clear isn't a lock clear anymore. And tbf I think it is a tunnel and will continue to be a tunnel. I think the basis of their suspicion on Sabi is disingenuous, I think they have repeatedly used language that attempts to push a narrative that doesn't exist since your so big on what the words mean at face value and not reading the intent behind them.

Yeah that just comes off to me as a highly convenient pivot to escape being called out. Rumi has been very careful to couch her suspicions and questions with a reasonable level of uncertainty. You’ve been dodging my questions constantly, hiding behind subjective interpretations that aren’t borne out by the objective words being said, and relying on disingenuous snark and dismissiveness to avoid answering questions.

[snowy801]

Also I'm in the middle of p30s and I can no longer be bothered

What page does the meat of EoD1 start at?

[BesharamSabi]

Neon take a break.

[snowy801]

Also pronoun list for new players s'il vous plait

[BesharamSabi]

I'm also going to take a break

[Rumi Tobari]

I too am fucking annoyed at both Rumi and Bo fucking twisting my friendship with Neon.

I really do regret inviting people here. I'm probably never doing this again.

Here is the post in question.
viewtopic.php?p=307864#p307864

I already reported my conduct to the admins. You and Neon are free to join me doing so.

[BesharamSabi]

Newsflash:

Webdip admins don't care about mafia lol

[snowy801]

bo ruining three new players' experience in a single post

classic

[Rumi Tobari]

Newsflash:

Webdip admins don't care about mafia lol

Then I can spam the rport button on myself until I am gone. Would that help?

[President Eden]

I too am fucking annoyed at both Rumi and Bo fucking twisting my friendship with Neon.

I really do regret inviting people here. I'm probably never doing this again.

Yeah, Rumi awkwardly read too much into your friendship a couple of times. Last I recall, she’s dropped it and apologized, and you are now the one tactically dredging it back up to get pity points.

Bo made a joke about how stringently you’re defending Neon as a matter of principle. You’re twisting his intent to get pity points.

You’ve said worse shit about me in this game and elsewhere without batting an eye, so as far as I’m concerned you can shove off with your pity parade crybully bullshit.

[Princess Neon]

This too. I was granting the premise of a tunnel for sake of argument, because I dislike the dismissiveness even if you really were tunneling, since Neon has already lock cleared you. The overwhelmingly obvious thing to do in that situation is to work with the person you are lock clearing who is tunneling you and helping them out of the tunnel, not being dismissive. Like, obvious as a first principle of basic human interaction, let alone in a game where 25% of the players are actively trying to obscure the hunt for the truth.

But even granting the premise is going too far because at least as far as I can see, you’re not tunneling and you’re being quite objective about your concerns and reasoning.

To be fair I've openly acknowledged my lock clear isn't a lock clear anymore. And tbf I think it is a tunnel and will continue to be a tunnel. I think the basis of their suspicion on Sabi is disingenuous, I think they have repeatedly used language that attempts to push a narrative that doesn't exist since your so big on what the words mean at face value and not reading the intent behind them.

Holy shit. AM I ALLOWED TO FUCKING BE WRONG?

I Get it. I am not allowed to have opinions. From now on. You tell me how to vote for and I'll do it. Done.

I'm trying very very hard not to scum read the constant AtE... I'm trying very very hard to grapple with the fact that my town clear was heavily based on the constant AtE...

[Princess Neon]

Also pronoun list for new players s'il vous plait

She / her

[Princess Neon]

I'm also going to take a break

This is probably a good idea for both of us but also something I very much struggle to do in any mafia game.

I'm glad your my friend. Fir reals.

[Rumi Tobari]

To be fair I've openly acknowledged my lock clear isn't a lock clear anymore. And tbf I think it is a tunnel and will continue to be a tunnel. I think the basis of their suspicion on Sabi is disingenuous, I think they have repeatedly used language that attempts to push a narrative that doesn't exist since your so big on what the words mean at face value and not reading the intent behind them.

Holy shit. AM I ALLOWED TO FUCKING BE WRONG?

I Get it. I am not allowed to have opinions. From now on. You tell me how to vote for and I'll do it. Done.

I'm trying very very hard not to scum read the constant AtE... I'm trying very very hard to grapple with the fact that my town clear was heavily based on the constant AtE...

I don't get why you guys are ignoring gin Rumi's scumslip.

Fine I'm scum. Vote me off the island. Happy end.

I mean, we've all been ignoring the obvious things. I even admitted I'm scum.

[Princess Neon]

Newsflash:

Webdip admins don't care about mafia lol

Then I can spam the rport button on myself until I am gone. Would that help?

No it wouldn't