MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[BesharamSabi]

Anyway I'm out for the rest of the day because I'm in a shitty mood and I hate having mafia affect my mood. If you need me just mention my name for questions or comments or whatever.

[ghug]

Ok I caught up. Time to sleep again.

Sabi, if you love asking questions so much and scumread me, why haven't you asked me any questions?

[BesharamSabi]

pensees
for sabi
by bona together

to start: day 1 is best read in hindsight, but we have to start somewhere

going in alphabetical order:

i agree with eden that sabi is playing in basically the same way (people don't really change), but i also agree with chaqa that sabi has added some other stuff (skill). killing sabi on d1 would be funny but sabi spew and interactions are nice for just getting interactions. it can go too far (see: that one game i knowingly led a dk on town!sabi for being a liability) but i think sabi has improved on getting in into the sweet spot. hard to say wrt actual alignment.

i am the best

bo_sox is about to be hammered lol

byz is complex. i have not completed a game with him where he was town, so i have no idea of his meta. as scum though, he successfully powerwolfed to win in f3. probably indicative of the fact that he is usually some kind of town leader as town? not sure about that. in this game, his posts really grate on me in a way that's hard for me to view as town. other people (rdr) have said they like him for the exact posts that make me suspicious, so i figure we need to devote some more brainpower to him.

celaph has not posted anything worthwhile

chaqa has been shitposting/meming for a fair bit but sometimes comes in with smart/perceptive things to say. i feel that lines up with his townplay fairly well, but this could change depending on how things go (seeing his reaction if he gets some pressure from someone like eden would be a very solid way to read him, for ex)

damo has not said much interesting. has not done math yet. his description of players is pretty good.

darg is hasn't done a lot, and the stuff he has done is meh. could be anything

ghug is lowposting. he said hi to me but didn't respond when i said hi back. im sad

jamie is indeed jamie. he read the rules and uses colors. no read

eden is edenposting, by which i mean that he's posting big walls, talking to the newbs, and getting in fights when people misunderstand his tone. this feels like eden from sabi's first game. i have no idea what eden's scumplay looks like but in when we played among us a year ago ( ) he was similar. pretty sure that would not immediately translate to forum mafia as such so i'm pretty comfortable calling him town

someone said that neon is like snowy, and i agree, with the addendum that neon fights more. the ego is basically the same though. not sure if the results are there to back it up - none of the 'weird methods' have been demonstrated or explained. i read this as town in an unfamiliar environment going around chest beating to show how cool they are.

i love the pyx

rdr is making the smart rdr observations that i would expect of town!rdr. not gonna call it yet though

rumi is in a really weird niche. they're the 5th most active player by posts, and 2nd by words. they have thoughts, they're thinking about things analytically, they're making observations and not saying much about it. i feel like once he hits his stride he'll pop off.

nothing much to say about vecna

worcej had a thing with neon. feels town, but it could also be scum knowingly following a route that will give 0 info.

Thank you Bona.

I want you to expand on your worcej read. What pinged you that it could be scummy of him?

Also I hate that you didn't even attempt tovnot read pyxxy

[worcej]

Here's how I play:

Build a towncore.

Bounce reads with said towncore.

Figure out slots im questioning so I can put them somewhere.

I hate conf biasing myself with slots that end up with town, I'm guilty of that and it takes up all my time and effort so I rather solve slots I have a feeling could maybe tiny bit be town.

Yes, right, that’s similar to how I do things. The issue is I don’t see you actually doing any of this.

Do you believe Sabi has shown this methodology in the past?

[BesharamSabi]

Ok I caught up. Time to sleep again.

Sabi, if you love asking questions so much and scumread me, why haven't you asked me any questions?

Because you have been barely in the thread when I have been in the thread and when you are here you are back reading.

Regardless what is your world view right now in terms of reads.

[Princess Neon]

The entire thing is silly because NONE OF THAT would be useful to us to solve the game anyway. You having a discord account has no bearing on any of what I'm saying.

Someone just said scum chat was in discord. You are suspicious of my ignorance of this. Me not having a discord would mean I can't be there.

Doing that would be against the rules of the game anyway.

If you want to delete your Discord, you can't tell us about it.

This has been the single strangest interaction I've ever seen in Werewolf lol

[Bonatogether]

You didn't figure out why I said hi to you though.

is there something special i should know?

[President Eden]

I hate that I buy this

Yeah, I know it’s self-serving, and people rightly pinch their noses at these “if I were mafia I’d do X instead of Y” arguments, but I figured in this case it was self-evidently true enough to be fine. You’re right to hate it but you’d be wrong not to buy it, y’know?

Well, it's entirely possible you'd prefer actions that the masses might torrential to banking a tornado from someone who doesn't have a great track record of convincing others of their reads, and it's entirely possible you'd be comfortable calling out a scum teammate like this, so I wouldn't be wrong not to buy it, but nonetheless I do.

You know I was going to argue this with some cute folksy story about tornadoes and Oklahoma, but you’re just correct, so I’m just going to accept the correction and leave it there

[President Eden]

##VOTE Chaqa

this seems like it could be fun, and even correct

[Bonatogether]

pensees
for sabi
by bona together

Thank you Bona.

I want you to expand on your worcej read. What pinged you that it could be scummy of him?

Also I hate that you didn't even attempt tovnot read pyxxy

nothing pinged me, but he took a course of action that's imaginable for both town!worcej, and scum!worcej. I lean that he's more towny for it, but I'm still keeping the possibility up.

pyxxy has 6 posts. none are AI. there is nothing to read

[Princess Neon]

Can people ask me game related questions so I can provide comtent
I'm tired of shitposting and want to move the game along to actual content

What is the air speed velocity of the posting in this thread?

Jkjk

Actual questions

What do you think of Byz / Eden / Rumi? At this point

What do you think of the lines of attack on me?

Why are you town? I TR you anyways but wanna see your answer

If any of this was already asked ignore me I'm catching up

[ghug]

Ok I caught up. Time to sleep again.

Sabi, if you love asking questions so much and scumread me, why haven't you asked me any questions?

Because you have been barely in the thread when I have been in the thread and when you are here you are back reading.

Regardless what is your world view right now in terms of reads.

I like Rumi and worcej and I think Eden. I dislike you and Jamie. Most other active people seem fine but fakable. My brain is a huge fog right now.

[Princess Neon]

Can people ask me game related questions so I can provide comtent
I'm tired of shitposting and want to move the game along to actual content

How do you believe your experiences since your last game here has impacted your ability to play?

I feel like everyone still thinks I'm a shitty player even tho I have changed a lot and idk I just feel like I'm never going to not be looked at the person who sandbagged and what not even tho I have taken steps to find a playstyle I enjoy and excel in.

I actually think you're one of the best players I've ever played with and like your in my top 3 people to play with play style wise. Don't change Sabi your great <3

[worcej]

Can people ask me game related questions so I can provide comtent
I'm tired of shitposting and want to move the game along to actual content

How do you believe your experiences since your last game here has impacted your ability to play?

I feel like everyone still thinks I'm a shitty player even tho I have changed a lot and idk I just feel like I'm never going to not be looked at the person who sandbagged and what not even tho I have taken steps to find a playstyle I enjoy and excel in.

I missed this - why do you think we think you’re shitty? I honestly don’t think anyone thinks that.

[worcej]

Ok I caught up. Time to sleep again.

Sabi, if you love asking questions so much and scumread me, why haven't you asked me any questions?

Because you have been barely in the thread when I have been in the thread and when you are here you are back reading.

Regardless what is your world view right now in terms of reads.

I like Rumi and worcej and I think Eden. I dislike you and Jamie. Most other active people seem fine but fakable. My brain is a huge fog right now.

Did lightning strike someone twice in a row? Ghug saying the phrase “I like worcej” is a bad omen…

[worcej]

Good Lord I was just teasing you there. Chaqa even called it out for what it was right afterward. You have bantzed me harder in this thread, it’s what we do.

But it’s funny you say that, because I still don’t see where you’ve done anything more than that to solve my slot.

I said you, along with four other people, hadn’t done enough to distinguish themselves to my liking at the not yet halfway point of day 1. It’s not on me to play 20 questions with you and sort you ASAP. I spent most of my limited time at game start feeling out the newer players, particularly Rumi, and am pretty happy with where I ended up. I put some pressure on rivera and pushed back on ideas from Byz and Rumi. I have done AMPLE for you to solve my alignment if you want to solve it.

Why do you need people to ask you shit to explain your reads? Can’t you just do it yourself?

Because I struggle with how to share my thoughts organically. It's a skill issue on my part. Besides that it helps me think about the game differently if I'm asked questions I didn't consider.

Legit question: what do you mean by organically?

Why not just do a read list and just say it as it is - that’s not organic but at least it’s authentic and doesn’t need us to pry.

[Chaqa]

##VOTE Chaqa

this seems like it could be fun, and even correct

It’s certainly at least one of those things.

[worcej]

Maybe I'm partially annoyed because way less skilled players than eden who don't even know me have read my alignment easier than eden has. It's like am I doing something wrong this game?

Eden is big brained when he comes to sorting people out and has higher criteria than most.

[worcej]

FWIW, I didn't start the bo wagon because he isn't posting, I started it because he's the worst and if we kill him before he makes a post the game won't be tainted by his bad mojo.

biggest oooof on D1 so far

Worcej bad take. Town confirmed.

What thing is a higher oooof than that!?

[President Eden]

##VOTE Chaqa

this seems like it could be fun, and even correct

It’s certainly at least one of those things.

Telling that you left open the possibility that it’s BOTH those things!!!

We got em boys

##END