MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

GM VOTE COUNT DAY ONE THE SECOND
(Hand count, through post 1561, bot verified as accurate)


bo_sox48(3): Bonatogether*, ghug*, Rumi Tobari
celaph(3): Princess Neon, Vecna, pyxxy
Jamiet99uk(3): worcej*, Byz, Chaqa

These wagons hurt me

your wagon of choice is tied for the lead though? And is de facto in the lead because if Chaqa doesn’t happen I’m probably switching to celaph out of those.

I think the bo wagon is doo doo trash but the others are reasonable

This is an interesting observation.

@Prince S. Neon: Why did you complain that the wagons "hurt" you when the wagon that you are voting for is one of the leading ones?

Which of the other wagons causes you pain? Are you worried to see that I am a wagon despite how obviously heroic and innocent I am?

(Fixed the messy quotes)

[worcej]

So Jamie this game has focused their scumhunting efforts on A) blindly voting lowposters and B) OMGUS back and forths. Could be a case of classic active lurking scumming. Could be a villager who hasn't bothered to solve yet. Either way, >rand.

I'd like to float this wagon, though I'm not necessarily out on Eden completely, for an early D1 read at least. Can someone give me what the best case for bo_sox is atm?

"VOTE Jamiet99uk

I like this.

##vote Jamie
##end

89.9197327856346% chance this vote won't move.

I responded to Byz's incorrect post and pointed out where he was mistaken.

Why are you so happy to swallow this inaccurate depiction of me? Are you scum or just lazy?

No.

[Princess Neon]

Does nobody else think that Byz is a very suspicious kind of potato?

I regret granting him a D1 pass, but his out of game explanation is plausible and I don’t know him well enough to feel confident reading through the explanation.

[quote=DemonRHK post_id=307045 time=<a href="tel:1660746764">1660746764</a> user_id=209]
GM VOTE COUNT DAY ONE THE SECOND
(Hand count, through post 1561, bot verified as accurate)


bo_sox48(3): Bonatogether*, ghug*, Rumi Tobari
celaph(3): Princess Neon, Vecna, pyxxy
Jamiet99uk(3): worcej*, Byz, Chaqa
damo666(2): BesharamSabi*, celaph
Rumi Tobari(1): bo_sox48
Pyxxy(1): dargoygel
BesharamSabi(1): damo666
Chaqa(1): President Eden*

Unvote(1): Jamiet99uk

Currently, NO ONE is set to be MURDERATED.

JAMIET99UK and RDRIVERA2005 need to cast legal votes.

7.5 hours remain in Day 1.

These wagons hurt me

your wagon of choice is tied for the lead though? And is de facto in the lead because if Chaqa doesn’t happen I’m probably switching to celaph out of those.

I think the bo wagon is doo doo trash but the others are reasonable
[/quote]

Yes true but also Bo is tied for the lead. And shouldn't be. Jamie is up there. And probably shouldn't be.

[Princess Neon]

You were not here when Sabi utterly fooled people into towning them when they were scum.

Tb totally honest Sabi could probably utterly fool me into thinking they are Town as wolf and I'd still say this.

Does knowing this impact anything for you?

My feelings about Sabi? Not really no.

[worcej]

@Worcej: Can you recall a game, in the last 2-3 years, where you and I have both been town, and where you have correctly townread me on D1?

My bet is that the answer is no but I'd love to be wrong.

My theory is that you are really bad at reading me. My general recollection is that you always scumread me, and always attack me, in the early days of every game we play together, irrespective of what alignment I actually turn out to be.

If my theory is correct, perhaps you'd like to comment on why you are so bad at reading me. If my theory is wrong, then please disprove it.

Yes, most games honestly. I usually legitimately scum read you in the later phases of a game primarily because you show no hesitation when you get things wrong and continue to just barrel ahead onto the next read/opinion.

[Princess Neon]

I'm going to bed. Flash wagon and kill me while I'm not here because it'll be funny

Hearts xoxo

Gossip girl

[Rumi Tobari]

Does nobody else think that Byz is a very suspicious kind of potato?

I regret granting him a D1 pass, but his out of game explanation is plausible and I don’t know him well enough to feel confident reading through the explanation.

[quote=DemonRHK post_id=307045 time=<a href="tel:1660746764">1660746764</a> user_id=209]
GM VOTE COUNT DAY ONE THE SECOND
(Hand count, through post 1561, bot verified as accurate)


bo_sox48(3): Bonatogether*, ghug*, Rumi Tobari
celaph(3): Princess Neon, Vecna, pyxxy
Jamiet99uk(3): worcej*, Byz, Chaqa
damo666(2): BesharamSabi*, celaph
Rumi Tobari(1): bo_sox48
Pyxxy(1): dargoygel
BesharamSabi(1): damo666
Chaqa(1): President Eden*

Unvote(1): Jamiet99uk

Currently, NO ONE is set to be MURDERATED.

JAMIET99UK and RDRIVERA2005 need to cast legal votes.

7.5 hours remain in Day 1.

These wagons hurt me

your wagon of choice is tied for the lead though? And is de facto in the lead because if Chaqa doesn’t happen I’m probably switching to celaph out of those.

I think the bo wagon is doo doo trash but the others are reasonable
[/quote]
I be convinced to vote for someone else. I've stated the two reasons I voted for Bo already. I just don't reaely know who else to vote for at this point. And I've acknowledged that the spite vote isn't productive.

[President Eden]

Yes true but also Bo is tied for the lead. And shouldn't be. Jamie is up there. And probably shouldn't be.

Sensible, but that’s revealing unto itself, especially if they stay consolidated there. You have a clear best wagon and some less optimal alternatives that manage to keep traction… what’s that tell ya? A lot I tell ya

[Byz]

You are wrong. So far today I have at various times voted for Damo, Eden, Bo_Sox and then Eden again.

Not only are you wrong, but, more worryingly, your accusations against me have changed in a totally inconsistent manner.

Originally you accused me of, quote: "Blindly voting lowposters".

Now you are (incorrectly) asserting that I "Bandwagon voted Eden and just parked there all day"

These two statements are directly in conflict.

Eden is not a "low poster". Eden has been very active all day. He is the second-highest poster in the entire game.

How can you assert that I was only voting low-posters if you simultaneously thought I had my vote parked on Eden all day?

I can only conclude at this time that your push on me is fake and you wrongly believe me to be an easy mis-kill. I deduce that you are SCUM.

##Vote Byz

Lol

Well?

Explain.

How could you simultaneously accuse me of being scum because of voting for "low posters" whilst at the same time apparently thinking my vote was parked on President Eden the whole time?

It's unpossible for both those things to be correct.

ISO skimming is more of an art than a science.

Are you gonna be on on Friday? I've had mixed pings from you, but I feel like I could solve your slot with an hour or two of real time onteraction

[President Eden]

I'm going to bed. Flash wagon and kill me while I'm not here because it'll be funny

Hearts xoxo

Gossip girl

Highly recommend setting an alarm for 4pm US Central Time (whatever that converts to for you). You don’t want to miss a webDip Mafia EOD lol.

[Rumi Tobari]

fine. I'm just going to unvote. there.
##unvote

[worcej]

@worcej, what is your read on Sabi so far? I feel like you've made a number of comments about it, but it's not clear where you stand.

Sabi is playing as expected here.

I don’t disregard it, but I don’t trust it. The fundamental problem for you though is relying on Sabi’s opinion if you by itself makes me want to flip you more on D1 to gain more information on Sabi going forward.

FWIW, I think your correct that there is no change at a substance level to Sabi’s attempt to play but is definitely asking less ‘noisy’ questions than the last time Sabi played.

I would mark it as an improvement but also NAI for them.

Sabi is a ‘soft town’ read for me right now.

[Byz]

##UNVOTE

[worcej]

Jamie's resoonse to the tiny wagon on him was reasonable

Is it though? It seems a little over the top considering that it’s only 3 votes.

[Byz]

Jamie's resoonse to the tiny wagon on him was reasonable

Is it though? It seems a little over the top considering that it’s only 3 votes.

It may make sense if my growing read on Jamie as a player is correct

What is your experience with Jamie, worcej?

[Vecna]

lol, ofcourse

fuckers

[worcej]

ok im caught up

agree with neon celaph deserves a side eye but i don't think voting him is a solid idea atm. he will be very clearly town or scum soon anyways because.

the pyx had one solid post but his votes have been trash so far.

So we keep the potential scum alive now because they might probably make themself obvious later?

I don't understand this play but I will acquiesce to it I don't know where else to vote atm though.

For context, in my ~4 games as scum I've effectively obvscummed by D2 every game.

This is why I won’t vote for you D1 lol

[worcej]

Jamie's resoonse to the tiny wagon on him was reasonable

Is it though? It seems a little over the top considering that it’s only 3 votes.

It may make sense if my growing read on Jamie as a player is correct

What is your experience with Jamie, worcej?

Paraphrasing significantly here, but he is passionate as hell and takes things incredibly personally. Like myself, he can be incredibly problematic when in a confrontation and can cross the line with what he says and does in those confrontations.

He tries to be a leader and direct town, but as I mentioned to him in a recent reply, he has a tendency to not show signs of reflection when his read was wrong and usually just does a RIP post and barrels into the next read with no regards to how he could be wrong.

[Vecna]

Jamie... is angry jamie more likely to be town or scum?

more likely to have correlations with levels of intoxication than with allignment

[worcej]

He also apparently thinks I hate him now, which corresponds to ‘takes things personally’