MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[Bonatogether]

I am vaguely concerned HB may be town because I don’t get any real feeling from him that I’m being deceived, but this game stops making sense to me fast if HB and/or Vecna are town.

Vecna seems way more checked out and resigned so my personal preference is to go there, but Bona has been on the money this game and his case against Neon was very good. Good enough that I’m not sure that HB appearing earnestly confused and seeking to understand the game state wins me over.

I guess there could be 2+ mafia among bo/celaph/rdr, but more than likely there’s something afoot with my townreads

to me the basic 'consensus' poe has not felt adequate. this doesn't feel like that one game where we POEd the shit out of scum.

[Hamilton Brian]

##Vote Vecna

Sorry pal. This was the near immediate impression I got when first entering and taking a look. I have to go back to it.

[President Eden]

I am vaguely concerned HB may be town because I don’t get any real feeling from him that I’m being deceived, but this game stops making sense to me fast if HB and/or Vecna are town.

Vecna seems way more checked out and resigned so my personal preference is to go there, but Bona has been on the money this game and his case against Neon was very good. Good enough that I’m not sure that HB appearing earnestly confused and seeking to understand the game state wins me over.

I guess there could be 2+ mafia among bo/celaph/rdr, but more than likely there’s something afoot with my townreads

to me the basic 'consensus' poe has not felt adequate. this doesn't feel like that one game where we POEd the shit out of scum.

Even taking the most obvious and conservative POE at face value, somebody of bo/celaph/rdr/Chaqa/worcej/Rumi/you/me is working quite hard to keep up townie appearances. That game last spring, we didn’t have the same level of fight from whoever is left; worcej did what he could, but it was different than this.

So yea it feels different and probably should. We might be able to break it mechanically but otherwise we’re not actually IN a POE yet (hence the quotes I reckon).

[Rumi Tobari]

Even taking the most obvious and conservative POE at face value, somebody of bo/celaph/rdr/Chaqa/worcej/Rumi/you/me is working quite hard to keep up townie appearances. That game last spring, we didn’t have the same level of fight from whoever is left; worcej did what he could, but it was different than this.

So yea it feels different and probably should. We might be able to break it mechanically but otherwise we’re not actually IN a POE yet (hence the quotes I reckon).

The fact that you include yourself in that list makes me really want to townread you here.

[Bonatogether]

Even taking the most obvious and conservative POE at face value, somebody of bo/celaph/rdr/Chaqa/worcej/Rumi/you/me is working quite hard to keep up townie appearances. That game last spring, we didn’t have the same level of fight from whoever is left; worcej did what he could, but it was different than this.

So yea it feels different and probably should. We might be able to break it mechanically but otherwise we’re not actually IN a POE yet (hence the quotes I reckon).

The fact that you include yourself in that list makes me really want to townread you here.

it's really not a reason to townread him

[Rumi Tobari]

Even taking the most obvious and conservative POE at face value, somebody of bo/celaph/rdr/Chaqa/worcej/Rumi/you/me is working quite hard to keep up townie appearances. That game last spring, we didn’t have the same level of fight from whoever is left; worcej did what he could, but it was different than this.

So yea it feels different and probably should. We might be able to break it mechanically but otherwise we’re not actually IN a POE yet (hence the quotes I reckon).

The fact that you include yourself in that list makes me really want to townread you here.

it's really not a reason to townread him

Yeah. That's why I say "really want to". I'm worried that worcej might be right and that it might actually be the point.

[DemonRHK]

GM VOTE COUNT DAY FOUR THE FOURTH
(Hand count, through post 5906)

Hamilton Brian(4): Bonatogether*, Rumi Tobari, celaph, President Eden
Vecna(3): rdrivera2005, Vecna, Hamilton Brian
rdrivera2005(3): bo_xox48, Chaqa*, ghug
worcej(1): worcej

Currently, HAMILTON BRIAN is set to be GIVEN THE PINK SLIP!

2ish hours remain in Day 4.

[President Eden]

Even taking the most obvious and conservative POE at face value, somebody of bo/celaph/rdr/Chaqa/worcej/Rumi/you/me is working quite hard to keep up townie appearances. That game last spring, we didn’t have the same level of fight from whoever is left; worcej did what he could, but it was different than this.

So yea it feels different and probably should. We might be able to break it mechanically but otherwise we’re not actually IN a POE yet (hence the quotes I reckon).

The fact that you include yourself in that list makes me really want to townread you here.

Oh don’t do that lol
I started off by writing just the people in my POE and then realized I should just add everyone who’s not objectively mech clear

[ghug]

— removed—

Are we talking good Tame Impala or post-Lonerism Tame Impala?

How can you hate on Currents and Slow Rush

Easily?

[worcej]

You ‘will do’ and investigation and I wouldn’t be shocked if you used my positions of defending snowbyz against me (again) in an effort to accuse me as scum.

It’s fine - as I stated - If I have a vote, your massive text wall will confirm my suspicions on your open wolfing strategy this game.

I have no idea how this turned into some kind of huge argument, but its feeling like a pattern in my interactions with everyone.

Honestly, at this point I feel like the only thing I've done all game is start huge arguments, which from your view are probably intentional, that got townies voted off.

This line of thinking in the last sentence also leads me to raise an eyebrow at Rumi

So yeah, I'll take the scumread from worcej here, without being flippant. I've earned everyone's suspicion I think.

As much as worcej and I are butting heads I imagine we agree that you are not the cause of it lol. At the very least I don’t think you are, and I don’t think he does either. Pretty sure we both firmly blame the other.

Can confirm - Rumi did not play any sort of role in our head butt.

[celaph]

This is the kind of comment I really dislike. I think it's pretty obvious I was not saying it was easier to read you when I was Mafia.

Fair point. Though it feels a little disingenuous to draw the comparison between now and the time we fought at kilo.

[worcej]

I am growing concerned that this HB wagon is most likely a miskill and we’re approaching the situation where we are running out of time faster than we think.

Lets say HB is a miskill. Lets talk about who we DK instead of HB.

I'd like to point out I was lightly townreading Snowy for a whole day despite that I was kind of scumreading Byz. So I need to be convinced.

Honestly, I am the most suspicious of Bona simply because I read what he is posting and get the sense he knows more than he should. There is too much confidence in what he is saying and not enough self-doubt.

Also, FWIW, I feel pretty confident we have a tie vote atm. Unless some BD shitshow has occured.

[celaph]

I think HB might be town now.

What do you townread in HB?

I still struggle to see why anyone scum reads HB now. Everything presented is a mechanical reason.

What did you think of my case? That he hasn't seemed to make an attempt to evaluate the people on his wagon in any meaningful way.

[worcej]

Anyone with a brain by now should know the double vote is either ghug or Vecna.

[celaph]

The one thing I want to comment here, specifically about Bona’s read of Byz, is it actually comes off more like a bus than a town push to me.

Anything in particular?

[worcej]

HB moving to Vecna strikes me more scummy than anything now

[worcej]

HB moving to Vecna strikes me more scummy than anything now

It sneakily makes the vote tied.

[rdrivera2005]

I will have problems with this EOD again, hope to be around but not 100% sure need to take my daughter at dance school and not sure I will be home before EOD.

I really hope Eden would avoid you making something stupid like killing me or having a bomb thrown at me.

[ghug]

So it's like 11/10 suspicious that Vecna was asked to put his vote on a vanity wagon and he self-voted, right?

[rdrivera2005]

HB moving to Vecna strikes me more scummy than anything now

It sneakily makes the vote tied.

With one hour to EOD isn't a big deal.