MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

So Jamie this game has focused their scumhunting efforts on A) blindly voting lowposters and B) OMGUS back and forths. Could be a case of classic active lurking scumming. Could be a villager who hasn't bothered to solve yet. Either way, >rand.

I'd like to float this wagon, though I'm not necessarily out on Eden completely, for an early D1 read at least. Can someone give me what the best case for bo_sox is atm?

"VOTE Jamiet99uk

Your vote is invalid. You need to use "##" before the word "vote".

I am not blindly voting anybody, this is false. My vote for President Eden, in particular, was explained, and was nothing to do with his posting frequency.

Review and discuss, please.

[President Eden]

Also I’m like not sure if you’re missing my opinions or what, but I’ve been making reads this whole time. I’m pretty confident that Sabi, Vecna, and you are town, and that gin Rumi is scum.

Not the same level of intensity or investment. But I could be wrong, it’s early.

[Jamiet99uk]

Still not reading much of the thread, my game I'm GMing has been keeping me busy. Sorry, not really up to my usual standard. Should have more time to post late D2 and D3, and do a lot better solving work than this.

Wait so you're not reading much of the thread, but you had a complete idea of what you thought I'd posted.

Explain this conflict, please?

[President Eden]

I haven’t read any of that shit fam.

This game has lasted for me from page 1-20 and the couple points I’ve checked in besides that. Plus the Jamie ISO

And I’m not gonna have time to read everything D1, so if you have something you’d like to tell me please tell me when I’m in thread

Oh, in that case, you should vote Chaqa, he’s mafia. If you reckon you have time to read some ISOs, here is a repository of his last few mainline games (all town) as compared to this game. You will notice that he has expressed far fewer meaningful opinions in this game compared to his recent town games, which is a general pattern and the closest you will get to a “tell” for him. He’s quite good at mafia play, but his Kryptonite is that no matter how busy he is or how many things he can think to do instead of care or post, as town he will eventually develop some sound opinions and push them. As mafia he really likes to stay flexible and go with the flow.

I don’t think you believe any of that. The Eden I know would never link to an entire game’s dump of posts and use it as proof, he’d have 10 cited examples per page per minute.

Not the Eden you know who cranked out 10 pages for a brief today while flooding the thread with content. I’m too old for this shit, I think I pulled my wrist just now

[Chaqa]

Also I’m like not sure if you’re missing my opinions or what, but I’ve been making reads this whole time. I’m pretty confident that Sabi, Vecna, and you are town, and that gin Rumi is scum.

Not the same level of intensity or investment. But I could be wrong, it’s early.

Oh, well that's easy - I just don't care enough yet.

[President Eden]

Also I’m like not sure if you’re missing my opinions or what, but I’ve been making reads this whole time. I’m pretty confident that Sabi, Vecna, and you are town, and that gin Rumi is scum.

Not the same level of intensity or investment. But I could be wrong, it’s early.

Oh, well that’s easy - I just don’t care enough yet.

Well start! Sheesh

[Jamiet99uk]

Hello everyone. Just quickly done a catch-up.

I find it very strange indeed that Eden did not address the apparent lie from page 4, that first caused him to start getting votes, despite him being very active and despite that apparent lie being mentioned by at least four people.

Eden's reaction to pressure has been a bit weird altogether.

##Vote President Eden

Does anyone have any thoughts about this?

You mean the fact that Eden didn't know how to use name plates despite supposedly having read the setup? I find it entirely unremarkable.

Why?

[Chaqa]

Not the same level of intensity or investment. But I could be wrong, it’s early.

Oh, well that’s easy - I just don’t care enough yet.

Well start! Sheesh

Ugh I guess I could read the setup

[Jamiet99uk]

Follow up ##CALL GM

The Mafia NK is usually regarded as a "visit".

When the Mafia NK someone, does the Maf Team member carrying out the kill swap tags with their victim?

GM NOTE

Yes, the NK is a visit, and the performing member will trade nametags with the intended victim at that stage of the execution of night orders.

So, when a NK'ed person flips, we need to remember that the Name Tag in their flip was just moments ago being worn by the mafia person that killed them.

[Rumi Tobari]

Does anyone have any thoughts about this?

You mean the fact that Eden didn't know how to use name plates despite supposedly having read the setup? I find it entirely unremarkable.

Why?

I think it got mentioned somewhere in the first ten pages that people don't read the setups. BUt the reason Eden is supposed to have read the setup contextually is because he's apparently on some kind of board that reviews them.

So by saying he didn't read them, its theorized that its either a lie, or that he didn't actually read them while on the reveiw board or awhatever it was.

[Byz]

Oh, I don’t mean by the current votes. I guess I could be a wagon by end of Day 1 (but where’s the fun in acknowledging that while taunting somebody to step up), but realistically people are going to slowly slink off to vote for someone who’s actually mafia and quietly pretend this never happened

Your focus on insulting everyone who votes you is so weird. I’m forced to view it as NAI because it’s not really beneficial as either alignment. I guess the focus on how untouchable you’re supposed to be and how a wagon on you needs to be airtight suggests the kind of ego posting that could come from town. But mostly it’s just exhausting to read

I’m just teasing you because you came in like a big shot and haven’t delivered. You seem like the type that would enjoy that kind of banter and would feel extra motivated to stick it to somebody who’s messing with you.

Normally I would and I appreciate what you and Bona are doing with this angle. This game was just pushing too much for my workload, I blame Sabi. I'm trying to level with you here to cut to what hoping to get in the time I have (I'm already on my phone with a guest at my place, like a mongrel).

But making the best of it, what I think I'm really looking for is some stuff in this game that doesn't rely on meta. Meta is a powerful tool, but one I can't rely on. A specific quote or two as to how they are "going with the flow". If you have those prepared, I'll take them. Otherwise, I can spend most of my time ISOing, but I won't be done with that for a while.

[Rumi Tobari]

by the way, what's ISOing?

[BesharamSabi]

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I can post

[BesharamSabi]

this Chaqa dude gives way too few fucks. observe:

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g=72&user=Chaqa
http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g=73&user=Chaqa
http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g=74&user=Chaqa

vs

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g=75&user=Chaqa

q.e.d.

one down

Eden do you have anything else to the case besides this?

[pyxxy]

ok im caught up

agree with neon celaph deserves a side eye but i don't think voting him is a solid idea atm. he will be very clearly town or scum soon anyways because.

the pyx had one solid post but his votes have been trash so far.

I've only voted once, Bona.

Maybe you need to read more carefully.

[BesharamSabi]

not overly thrilled by darg btw. he seems to rely a bit too much on easy points.

also, why make the statement you want me to participate so you can apply your read on me? why would you say that as town? feels like a bit on the busy-work side of things.

Do you think you have a tell like Darg said you do?

Also hi Vecna, I missed u

[Rumi Tobari]

ok im caught up

agree with neon celaph deserves a side eye but i don't think voting him is a solid idea atm. he will be very clearly town or scum soon anyways because.

the pyx had one solid post but his votes have been trash so far.

I've only voted once, Bona.

Maybe you need to read more carefully.

Can I have some further explanation what about Celaph s eems suspicious?

[BesharamSabi]

This demonstrates both of the main issues with jargon: it can be exclusionary, and it glosses over nuance.

Jamie is almost always active and involved when he's scum. He's rather good at it too Does that make him a "power wolf"? Depends what you want that term to mean, but probably.

It's going to take me a day or two to turn off my terms thing because it's just how commonly used in forums I play on. Just have to bear with me

Sorry, I'm not trying to shit on you specifically. It's a thing that's always kinda bugged me, exacerbated by some poor choices brain made in inviting people here back in the day (these new folks are much better).

I try to vet people that I invite. I talked to neon and we talked about our homesites and she was like yea mine is super toxic and I was like so is webdip, you would feel comfortable here then.

Sidenote I say super toxic because compared to other sites it's very much a free for all with that stuff so like not a critique on yall

[BesharamSabi]

@Byz/Justin what are your thoughts on these posts

viewtopic.php?p=306602#p306602

viewtopic.php?p=306610#p306610

[BesharamSabi]

No I meme voted Celaph for zero posting.

I might still vote another zero poster but I got pinged by something.

What pinged you

This requires me to attempt to understand the bot let me catch up again and I'll quote it

So here's how to iso on the bot. You can just click the name on the post count table and it brings it up for you.