MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

Alternatively the context for the Eden wagon is this. Is bussing common practice here? Because Eden has been a consensus wagon basically all phase with almost no pushback at any time and that feels decidedly more likely to be a mis yeet than a scum bus day 1 with a complete lack of counter wagon play.

In fact the only reason I never voted fake Neon :p is because I've had a hard time grappling my slight scum lean with the fact the vote is stagnant on the slot

Bussing is a fairly common occurrence here on webDip, yeah.

What do you mean by "fake Neon" in that post?

I see. Is the bussing commonplace even on Day 1?

Fake Neon was playfully referring to Eden since they've taken to calling me doppelganger and people have expressed confusion on who is who for some reason or another.

Ah I see.

I wouldn't say bussing was commonplace on D1 but I have seen it happen, and as scum I've done it myself. I can think of at least four players who I've seen aggressively bus a team-mate for genuine minor slip-ups on D1. Only one of them is currently active in this game, however, and that's me. Maniac is on the sub list. Brainbomb and Hellenic Riot are not here this time.

Ghug on the other hand never busses, apart from when he does.

[Princess Neon]

@Princess Neon:

I am sure you may mean well but, in general, I would recommend not answering on other people's behalf especially when an accusation is made against them.

It would have been interesting to see Rumi's response to Damo's "is this a scumslip?" post. But now on the off-chance that Rumi is actually nervous n00b scum who made a mistake, you have given him an out.

I'd prefer to keep the new town player alive than allow a mis yeet that's just how I play read me based off it.

You don't know he's town.

Or do you?

I know everything

Or I'm just confident in my ability to read town. You decide. Sabi can also tell you some of my meta/play style

Self meta bad or whatever.

[Princess Neon]

Bussing is a fairly common occurrence here on webDip, yeah.

What do you mean by "fake Neon" in that post?

I see. Is the bussing commonplace even on Day 1?

Fake Neon was playfully referring to Eden since they've taken to calling me doppelganger and people have expressed confusion on who is who for some reason or another.

Ah I see.

I wouldn't say bussing was commonplace on D1 but I have seen it happen, and as scum I've done it myself. I can think of at least four players who I've seen aggressively bus a team-mate for genuine minor slip-ups on D1. Only one of them is currently active in this game, however, and that's me. Maniac is on the sub list. Brainbomb and Hellenic Riot are not here this time.

Ghug on the other hand never busses, apart from when he does.

I'm struggling to reconcile this with my feelings on the slot and in general but thank you for helping me get a better feel.

[rdrivera2005]

So basically I accidentally set of a malestrom of accusations, blame, and finger-pointing by accident.

Now I feel terrible. I can't social read at all, I can only do facts

I'm so sorry for being a screwup

you have done nothing wrong

you are doing a pretty good job in getting people to do things

Here is something we can agree. I am really liking the newbies.

[rdrivera2005]

I am playing three game at the same time so I'm trying to spread my time and energy equally between the three games.

But anyway I'm tired so I'm going to get some sleep. Good night xoxo

you're nuts lmao

Another thing we can agree.

[Bonatogether]

Bona has a point. Personally vouching based on prior experience doesn't mean anything factually right now. And aside from a bias towards trusting people with Princess in their names, I don't see any formal reason to unconditionally trust Neon at this time.

At the same time, I see no reason to be suspicious of her either.

Eden was engaging and asking questions and lowkey felt like feeling me out, I'm used to being shushed or ignored in communities. Or otherwise told my own opinions don't matter. Affirmation makes me feel a little awkward and suspicious of others motives

Detective mentality, remember? I look for a motive on why people engage with me. But I'm used to clues, evidence, and other factual bits of logic puzzle rather than social cues.

ok.

the facts are spewing out from how people are interacting and perhaps the most crucial single piece of information is your alignment, because a lot of the action has centered around you, how people interact with you, and how other people react to those interactions. not necessarily now, but putting down some thoughts on some people (how about me/eden/sabi/byz/neon, as the main discussers in this part?) have been

Blah, the problem with reading people for me is htat it relies on turning a subjective impression into an objective viewpoint. Regardless of subjectivity, there is and isn't a correct interpetation of people's actions.

With more context on Eden, I'm less suspicious, I'm unopinionated towards Neon, not enough data. I 'm a tiny ashamed to admit I haven't paid too close attention to Sabi.

You seem pretty trustworthy, but that could just be engaging with a new player. Byz I don't know what to think about at this point watching the debate unfold on their behavior.

subjective doesn't necessarily mean wrong - there is a definite answer that you can find.

goated reads

im pocketed now

[Bonatogether]

its in monopoly money

I can work with that

ok good, cuz the electric bill was higher than i thought after i got my new graphics card

now that sabi and bona went to bed, i bet we could have an entire page of posts quoting each other uninterrupted which would be totally unreadable for people who can’t figure out the difference between ‘president eden’ and ‘princess neon’

you guys sound different. idk why people say you sound the same

[Bonatogether]

Rumi besides the vote strategy, how would you like to play a day one? Since we currently have zero information (well except mafia because they know who isn't mafia) how do you go about that

there isn't zero info - you have your role

Hi bona

hi ghug

[Bonatogether]

I really like this post. Not so sure about Eden as I don't read him well, but many townie points to Byz

for me, the 'agreeableness is vaguely scummy' and especially the 'i am pretty good at these feel reads' set off a ton of alarm bells - what about it makes you like it?

Are you bothered by ego from a stranger or is it something about byz specifically?

i've played with byz before (he was scum and won at lylo) and this somewhat reminds me of that

[Chaqa]

I am playing three game at the same time so I'm trying to spread my time and energy equally between the three games.

But anyway I'm tired so I'm going to get some sleep. Good night xoxo

This is fucked

It isn’t just fucked, it’s probably cap so sabi’s mafia self can hide

[Bonatogether]

Rumi probably town.
Worcej possibly scum.
Chaqa has an alignment.

Bo_Sox, Celaph and Vecna are not here.

where is celaph

[Bonatogether]

Rumi besides the vote strategy, how would you like to play a day one? Since we currently have zero information (well except mafia because they know who isn't mafia) how do you go about that

Ideally, I'd want to figure out how to gain some amount of factual information before the vote. But I don't know if that's possible. It might be, but I'm not experienced enough with social situations (and have never played Mafia) to understand how.

Alternatively, If I was town I'd want to figure out how everyone thinks and how to convince them to believe or vote in certain ways. I have a bit of a detective mindset.

Is the 2nd para a scumslip?

idt so

[Jamiet99uk]

I can work with that

ok good, cuz the electric bill was higher than i thought after i got my new graphics card

now that sabi and bona went to bed, i bet we could have an entire page of posts quoting each other uninterrupted which would be totally unreadable for people who can’t figure out the difference between ‘president eden’ and ‘princess neon’

you guys sound different. idk why people say you sound the same

Their names sound similar, or rather look similar on the screen.

[Bonatogether]

Hello everyone. Just quickly done a catch-up.

I find it very strange indeed that Eden did not address the apparent lie from page 4, that first caused him to start getting votes, despite him being very active and despite that apparent lie being mentioned by at least four people.

Eden's reaction to pressure has been a bit weird altogether.

##Vote President Eden

Does anyone have any thoughts about this?

why is it pink? webdip messages are normally off-white

[Jamiet99uk]

Rumi probably town.
Worcej possibly scum.
Chaqa has an alignment.

Bo_Sox, Celaph and Vecna are not here.

Where is Celaph?

Why are you only asking about Celaph when three people did not post?

[Chaqa]

Rumi besides the vote strategy, how would you like to play a day one? Since we currently have zero information (well except mafia because they know who isn't mafia) how do you go about that

Ideally, I'd want to figure out how to gain some amount of factual information before the vote. But I don't know if that's possible. It might be, but I'm not experienced enough with social situations (and have never played Mafia) to understand how.

Alternatively, If I was town I'd want to figure out how everyone thinks and how to convince them to believe or vote in certain ways. I have a bit of a detective mindset.

Is the 2nd para a scumslip?

##Vote Rumi

[Jamiet99uk]

Hello everyone. Just quickly done a catch-up.

I find it very strange indeed that Eden did not address the apparent lie from page 4, that first caused him to start getting votes, despite him being very active and despite that apparent lie being mentioned by at least four people.

Eden's reaction to pressure has been a bit weird altogether.

##Vote President Eden

Does anyone have any thoughts about this?

why is it pink? webdip messages are normally off-white

They can be any colour you want them to be (within the confines of the available palette).

[Chaqa]

@Princess Neon:

I am sure you may mean well but, in general, I would recommend not answering on other people's behalf especially when an accusation is made against them.

It would have been interesting to see Rumi's response to Damo's "is this a scumslip?" post. But now on the off-chance that Rumi is actually nervous n00b scum who made a mistake, you have given him an out.

I'd prefer to keep the new town player alive than allow a mis yeet that's just how I play read me based off it.

#PurgeTheNoobs

##Vote Sabi

[Bonatogether]

For whatever reason, "I think I follow you" in this strikes me as scummy. Can't quite explain it, but it's too agreeable in a way that doesn't feel like it aims to solve. I'm usually pretty good at these feel reads.

Actually like this vote for more than just pressure.

For whatever reason, this entire fucking post strikes me as scummy. I can explain it, because I am a townsperson. I do not oversell myself because that's no bueno.

Actually I'm gonna ##vote Byz

@Bona: Did you mean "I can't explain it" ?

Otherwise, if you meant "I can explain it", can you do that, then?

For whatever reason, "I think I follow you" in this strikes me as scummy. Can't quite explain it, but it's too agreeable in a way that doesn't feel like it aims to solve. I'm usually pretty good at these feel reads.

Actually like this vote for more than just pressure.

I really like this post. Not so sure about Eden as I don't read him well, but many townie points to Byz

for me, the 'agreeableness is vaguely scummy' and especially the 'i am pretty good at these feel reads' set off a ton of alarm bells - what about it makes you like it?

why does town feel the need to sell themselves so blatantly over a read that's really just not substantial?

[Chaqa]

Alternatively the context for the Eden wagon is this. Is bussing common practice here? Because Eden has been a consensus wagon basically all phase with almost no pushback at any time and that feels decidedly more likely to be a mis yeet than a scum bus day 1 with a complete lack of counter wagon play.

In fact the only reason I never voted fake Neon :p is because I've had a hard time grappling my slight scum lean with the fact the vote is stagnant on the slot

Bussing is a fairly common occurrence here on webDip, yeah.

What do you mean by "fake Neon" in that post?

I see. Is the bussing commonplace even on Day 1?

Fake Neon was playfully referring to Eden since they've taken to calling me doppelganger and people have expressed confusion on who is who for some reason or another.

Bussing is incredibly common on all days here.