M1021 - Blessings of Lilia - GAME THREAD [hidden]

[DeathLlama8]

^ The Aaro wagon looked pretty scummy to me.

yeah that was my initial reaction to seeing the wagons form, but I don't know what the scum motivation is for the aaro wagon to form unless they really specifically felt threatened by aaro, as it's not really protecting anyone

versus the damo wagon which jumped up basically right after aaro took the lead

[pyxxy]

Well can't cross check since bot down but I do want to comment on tfb's wallpoat that it never seemed to me that a sudden Maniac flash was ever going to take off

I'm going through the TFB wallpost and I +1 this and I have the Day 1 votes in a cached browser tab and can confirm that the Maniac wagon never got past two votes

00:15 Jam Dur➙Man 6 dam 4 aar 2 Dur 2 Man

while damo and aaro wagons were at least double so idk what TFB is smoking

[damo666]

Great post from TFB.

And more subsequent substantive posts.

Good stuff.

I've been drinking so can't analyse at mo but a long way until EOD. Fear not.

@Snowy I'll get there.

@Jamie I understand your vote but I do suspect S is T.

tbh I think +1s are a distraction and I pay no attention [gamewise] though feel free to add my my Karma

##vote Bona

That post was daft.

Kak is at least trying [need to review].

Manana (tilde on first n).

[DeathLlama8]

iirc sabi and jamie were both on a maniac wagon and I said I would join if a third person came on which would've made it like 5-4-4?

then nobody else joined and it died

[snowy801]

Perhaps. My impression was that you wanted a Pyxxy flash, and missed any indication of wanting Maniac

[TheFlyingBoat]

Well can't cross check since bot down but I do want to comment on tfb's wallpoat that it never seemed to me that a sudden Maniac flash was ever going to take off

I'm going through the TFB wallpost and I +1 this and I have the Day 1 votes in a cached browser tab and can confirm that the Maniac wagon never got past two votes

00:15 Jam Dur➙Man 6 dam 4 aar 2 Dur 2 Man

while damo and aaro wagons were at least double so idk what TFB is smoking

My point was that at minute 13 damo switches off of Aaro onto Durga. Why did he choose Durga instead of Maniac? No one new had joined and stayed on that wagon since I joined it many many hours before that. Maniac had a vote from Sabi at 16 mins and a vote from Jamie at 15. The momentum was far more behind Maniac than Durga. So why choose to switch off of Aaro and onto Durga?

[DeathLlama8]

while you're here snowy can you walk me through your thought process behind joining durga at EOD? might've missed it bc the bot's down but I was kinda surprised you followed bona onto her despite his flagrant breaching of coin etiquette

[DeathLlama8]

how did people play mafia before peterbot

[DeathLlama8]

fuck is that really what i spent post 1000 on

[Jamiet99uk]

how did people play mafia before peterbot

Good GM's would post a Vote Count every couple of hours.

[snowy801]

Well can't cross check since bot down but I do want to comment on tfb's wallpoat that it never seemed to me that a sudden Maniac flash was ever going to take off

I'm going through the TFB wallpost and I +1 this and I have the Day 1 votes in a cached browser tab and can confirm that the Maniac wagon never got past two votes

00:15 Jam Dur➙Man 6 dam 4 aar 2 Dur 2 Man

while damo and aaro wagons were at least double so idk what TFB is smoking

My point was that at minute 13 damo switches off of Aaro onto Durga. Why did he choose Durga instead of Maniac? No one new had joined and stayed on that wagon since I joined it many many hours before that. Maniac had a vote from Sabi at 16 mins and a vote from Jamie at 15. The momentum was far more behind Maniac than Durga. So why choose to switch off of Aaro and onto Durga?

damo made it very clear that both his aaro and Durga vote were near entirely self preservation votes. What do you make of this?

[peterlund]

how did people play mafia before peterbot

Using mobile data for this to inform you that my home Internet is down due to that my ISP DHCP server does not seem to respond to requests any longer. That means that the bot is down until they fix it. Will call them Sunday when they open...

[snowy801]

while you're here snowy can you walk me through your thought process behind joining durga at EOD? might've missed it bc the bot's down but I was kinda surprised you followed bona onto her despite his flagrant breaching of coin etiquette

Well believe it or not aaro was and is my primary scum suspect since fairly early day 1, and whether rdrivera picked that up nicely for me or shared my view I ended up voting where I wanted

Durga I had a fairly early scum read on which while lessened never quite disappeared

In contrast damo I had a fairly early scum read which turned into a fairly strong townread as we approached eod

When I presented the coin flip to bona, my assessment of the aaro wagon was that for whatever reason was
a) dying
b) being overpowered by the damo wagon
c) unlikely to be rejoined by players present

and so I presented the proposal, knowing I had little to lose, and mostly to save damo from horrible murder.

Sadly, Durga was torn to shreds instead, but such is life.

[President Eden]

##Call GM

Just to make you aware that the Bot is down.

Acknowledged.


DAY 2 VOTE COUNT 1: OLD FASHIONED STYLE

damo666 (4): Kakarroto, Bonatogether, Maniac , TheFlyingBoat
aarodactyl (1): snowy801
pyxxy (1): DeathLlama8
snowy801 (1): Jamiet99uk
Bonatogether (1): damo666

NOT YET VOTED: celaph, BesharamSabi, aarodactyl, pyxxy

Currently damo666 is set to be killed at the end of Day 2 in approximately 27h11m.

celaph, BesharamSabi, aarodactyl and pyxxy have not met minimum participation requirements.

[snowy801]

Eden thirty for that good GM title

[Jamiet99uk]

@Snowy: What do you think about Maniac's terrible reason for voting Aaro yesterday? Does it interest you that Maniac is not voting Aaro with you today?

[TheFlyingBoat]

I'm going through the TFB wallpost and I +1 this and I have the Day 1 votes in a cached browser tab and can confirm that the Maniac wagon never got past two votes

00:15 Jam Dur➙Man 6 dam 4 aar 2 Dur 2 Man

while damo and aaro wagons were at least double so idk what TFB is smoking

My point was that at minute 13 damo switches off of Aaro onto Durga. Why did he choose Durga instead of Maniac? No one new had joined and stayed on that wagon since I joined it many many hours before that. Maniac had a vote from Sabi at 16 mins and a vote from Jamie at 15. The momentum was far more behind Maniac than Durga. So why choose to switch off of Aaro and onto Durga?

damo made it very clear that both his aaro and Durga vote were near entirely self preservation votes. What do you make of this?

I can see Damo pushing Aaro as either scum or mafia as he was was suspected day one by a bunch of people and was a major wagon for quite a bit, so I'd understand survivalist Damo choosing to stay on that wagon regardless of alignment and that doesn't mean much to me as far as I can tell.

Durga is the more interesting one to me. I don't really understand how he thought Durga would be an easy D1 kill. Durga is tenacious in arguments and at least from my perspective is someone I would avoid going after unless I had a reasonably well articulated belief she was scum.

From a survivalist perspective, I think she'd probably be just about the hardest person to win a straight up 1v1 against on this forum other than maybe ghug or kgray during D1 and was certainly the hardest person to win a 1v1 against in this game.

If Damo is town it means he thought Durga was more likely to be an easier day kill than Maniac which strikes me as hard to believe as I feel like a lot more people would fight the Durga kill than the Maniac one as people tend to be hesitant to flip people they perceive as being valuable as town unless they have like an ironclad scum case against them. Maniac doesn't have that same level of protection Durga has there. I just don't see how he comes to this conclusion as town!damo.

If Damo is scum, then you start to have an interesting thought process in his head I guess. If he thinks he can get Durga miskilled then that becomes the obvious play for him imo as killing Durga is infinitely more valuable to his efforts than killing Aaro or Maniac would be. It's also possible that both Damo AND Maniac were scum in which case Damo has a strong incentive not to push onto Maniac and if he felt the Aaro wagon was faltering after Durga switched off of Aaro and onto him then that was probably his only move, which honestly might be the most reasonable explanation for it.

What do you make of it, snowy?

[snowy801]

As someone who has prior stated that Maniac may well be the worst player in this community, I've really stopped paying much attention to him quite some time ago. My assessment of this slot is that if he's scum he'll eventually and obviously out himself.

That said, I do not think claiming to vote for someone because they're posting too much is as scum indicative as you seem to imply.

[snowy801]

What do you make of it, snowy?

My current assessment of the situation is that he was just being honest but I am open to reinterpretation on this matter should sufficiently cogent arguments arise

[TheFlyingBoat]

What do you make of it, snowy?

My current assessment of the situation is that he was just being honest but I am open to reinterpretation on this matter should sufficiently cogent arguments arise

Why do you think he thought Durga was an easier kill than Maniac, I guess is my question? I just can't wrap my head around it.