Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

[thamrick]

Are you basing that on the assumption that we lynch scum today?

[thamrick]

Cause your theory has some pretty obvious holes in it.

[bo_sox48]

Why in the everloving fuck would I get RBed N6 with no living town PRs and the very public knowledge that I have the DD tag?

It's as if you and Ezio are looking for any excuse you can get to lynch me today. Just come out and say that you two want my voice off the table already.

[bozotheclown]

@thamrick: Yes, if we do not lynch scum or bo_sox today, the game is over. What am I incorrect about?

[bozotheclown]

I should have said N5, not N6.

[bozotheclown]

There obviously won't be a N6 unless we lynch a scum and a town bo_sox D5 and D6.

[Pouncy Silverkitten]

So I still think its pretty unlikely mafia would kidnap their own player, so I don't think we should lynch bo_sox48.

I think we should lynch between Ezio and rdrivera2005 because we know one of them is lying and mafia. The other one is probably town. If we lynch wrong we lose, but its a risk worth taking because we will be stuck in this same predicament tomorrow.

##vote Ezio

[Pouncy Silverkitten]

I looked at what thamrick said and it is weird that ezio just ignored xorxes vote on him on the first day.

[Pouncy Silverkitten]

i'll try to spend some time today looking at rdrivera2005 more closely.

[bozotheclown]

@Pouncy: What is your opinion on bo_sox's delayed RB claim? Do you think it is worth considering a bo_sox lynch since it does not cost us a mislynch if he flips town?

[Pouncy Silverkitten]

I don't know what to make of bo_sox's RB claim. This is only my second online mafia game. I've played a lot in person but I don't have any clue about how GMs normally send PMs or if its possible he missed it. So right now I guess I'm treating his claim as true.

I understand the notion that his vote is meaningless and doesn't cost us a mislynch, but we will almost certainly still have to choose between rdrivera2005 and Ezio tomorrow. So why not do it now?

[dargorygel]

The DD tag does not cause a useless 'free to kill' character. While it is true the vote does not matter, they still count as a town (or scum) in the determination of win.

Flip ezio this evening. And then it is either bozo (more likely) or rdr (less likely.)

I still haven't seen my desired knock-down, drag-out fight between ezio and rdrivera... but bozo seems to have done that on someone's behalf.

Bozo's push on bo_sox feels unnecessary. Most of us have stated that we see some questionable things about bo's actions. After an Ezio or Rdrivera lynch, I'm sure bo will be examined. Lynch Bo Now isn't necessary, and is feeling more and more like a defense of someone else (Ezio?) more than a reasonable attempt to find scum.

[bozotheclown]

@Pouncy: The reason to lynch bo_sox now would be if you think he could be scum but are not sure. If you are sure he is scum, he could be lynched after one of Ezio/rdrivera, if we get that one right. If you are sure he is not scum, he does not have to be lynched at all. However, if you think it is only a possibility that bo_sox is scum, lynching him today gives town the best chance to win, since if he flips town, we get another chance to identify the second scum.

[dargorygel]

And... bo is the worst. But he seems pretty good at endgame. So scum have to get rid of him. If they are forced to NK him, they pick up the DD tag. Thus, getting us to lynch him is the better plan for them.

[bozotheclown]

@dargorygel: You said you see some questionable things about bo_sox's actions, but if we follow your plan, lynch Ezio then me or rdrivera, town loses if bo_sox is scum. If instead we lynch bo_sox first, then Ezio, then me or rdrivera if necessary, we add to the probability of town winning. I know lynching me will lose the game for town, and if we lynch a scum Ezio today and bo_sox is the other scum, he will likely try to get me lynched tomorrow. If you think the second scum if between me and bo_sox, you should lynch bo_sox first, since you would still have the opportunity to lynch me later.

[bozotheclown]

@dargorygel: Do you think I am trying to defend Ezio by pointing out that bo_sox is the best lynch today? Whether bo_sox flips scum or town, Ezio can be lynched D6. Since bo_sox's vote does not count, it will take the same votes D6 to lynch Ezio. I think it is likely Ezio is the scum between Ezio and rdrivera, so lynching bo_sox first has nothing to do with the decision to lynch Ezio or rdrivera, which is a decision that has to be made correctly at some point for town to win.

[bozotheclown]

@bo_sox: Do you think there is no reason for scum to RB you N5 if we lynch a scum Ezio today? If you claim you were RBed N5, should be lynch you automatically D6?

[Tom Bombadil]

Vote Count 5.1

Ezio (3): rdrivera2005, dargorygel, Pouncy Silverkitten
bo_sox48 (2): Ezio, bozotheclown
No-Lynch (1): bo_sox48

End Votes (1): Ezio

thamrick has yet to vote.



Currently Ezio is set to be lynched.

8 hours remain in D5.

[bo_sox48]

@bo_sox: Do you think there is no reason for scum to RB you N5 if we lynch a scum Ezio today? If you claim you were RBed N5, should be lynch you automatically D6?

Why do you think any of us are ever going to get RBed again, especially me? The shitty tags are out of the way with me holding one of them. Stop trying so hard to deflect attention away from your buddy Ezio and bus him.

[bo_sox48]

For real, I have never seen someone try so hard to lynch someone exclusively because you don't lose regardless of my flip. You're not playing to win; you're playing for more time. Ezio has gone and disappeared all day to try to let the pressure die down. He and xorxes interacted in only ways that scummates do from D1 up through yesterday when he spent all day trying his best to keep xorxes off the block. You're doing the same thing for him today. Learn from Ezio's mistakes and stop being so scared of having to survive, bozo.