Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

[Ezio]

Huh? Tham? Are you asking what Bo sox lied about?

[thamrick]

Huh? Tham? Are you asking what Bo sox lied about?

Yes

[bozotheclown]

The only PR left N3 was the oracle, and there is no need to RB a potential oracle when he is not the NK and has no chance of being lynched the next day because he is kidnapped. The only reason to RB bo_sox would be to switch nametags, and I do not see a reason to do that, especially since bo_sox would know he was RBed. Considering this, and the fact that bo_sox did not claim the RB initially, the RB claim is questionable enough that I think using the free lynch of bo_sox today is the best option.

[Ezio]

Bo sox lied about his nametag. He realized he got caught and now he's lying about being roleblocked.

[rdrivera2005]

There is any chance that myslinching Bo means scum win? As far I can see there is no way DD could have moved from Bo.
Both Ezio and Bozo pushing Bo lynch is giving me a bad feeling.

[bozotheclown]

@rdrivera: If we lynch bo_sox and he is town, there would be 4 town and 2 scum left, so after the NK it would be 3 town and 2 scum. It would take another mislynch for us to lose.

[thamrick]

There is any chance that myslinching Bo means scum win? As far I can see there is no way DD could have moved from Bo.
Both Ezio and Bozo pushing Bo lynch is giving me a bad feeling.

If Bo is town as implied by mislynch, then no. Lynching Bo wouldn't give scum the win. There's no way a town Bo would have been able to move DD (other than moving it to scum via the RB again - which I'm assuming Bo would have told us - and then moving it back to town tonight) so it would be 3-2 tomorrow

[thamrick]

The only PR left N3 was the oracle, and there is no need to RB a potential oracle when he is not the NK and has no chance of being lynched the next day because he is kidnapped. The only reason to RB bo_sox would be to switch nametags, and I do not see a reason to do that, especially since bo_sox would know he was RBed. Considering this, and the fact that bo_sox did not claim the RB initially, the RB claim is questionable enough that I think using the free lynch of bo_sox today is the best option.

If they thought Bo was the oracle, they could have RB'd Bo to keep him from getting DD from Foxy so that it would have been 5-3 with Foxy having an empty vote so really 4-3. They'd just need one wrong vote to get a mislynch and win.

[thamrick]

Bo sox lied about his nametag. He realized he got caught and now he's lying about being roleblocked.

Are they guaranteed lies? Like it seems possible to me that Bo actually was goldfinger, actually was RB'd (giving GF to whoever was RB'd him, and taking BO_SOX from the RB'er), and actually was kidnapped (giving BO_SOX to xorxes, and taking xorxes' tag)

[Ezio]

Tham he said twice he wasn't roleblocked.

[Ezio]

Only once he realized he needed to be roleblocked for his claim to make any sense did he realize he needed to claim RB, so he did.

[bo_sox48]

I wasn't directly informed that I was RBed, Ezio. I didn't know I was RBed until I thought "what the hell is going on" with regard to my nametag and went back and actually read the message. In the message titled **KIDNAPPED**, the GM informed me that I was visited by a distracting individual. Prior to today, I had never even opened the PM. I explained that. You don't care, and we both know why.

[thamrick]

Ezio - do you really think that if Bo was scum, he wouldn't have been thinking about what he was going to say his nametag was, knowing that we'd ask him? I know "Bo is the worst" but c'mon. Any halfway decent player would have given some thought to it.

[bo_sox48]

No, he doesn't really think that, thamrick. He's being opportunistic.

[thamrick]

What's ironic is that scum have the WJESSOP tag. Gonna be hilarious if it was on Godfather

[bozotheclown]

The only PR left N3 was the oracle, and there is no need to RB a potential oracle when he is not the NK and has no chance of being lynched the next day because he is kidnapped. The only reason to RB bo_sox would be to switch nametags, and I do not see a reason to do that, especially since bo_sox would know he was RBed. Considering this, and the fact that bo_sox did not claim the RB initially, the RB claim is questionable enough that I think using the free lynch of bo_sox today is the best option.

If they thought Bo was the oracle, they could have RB'd Bo to keep him from getting DD from Foxy so that it would have been 5-3 with Foxy having an empty vote so really 4-3. They'd just need one wrong vote to get a mislynch and win.

OK, that is a possibility. We still have nothing to lose by lynching bo_sox to find out for sure.

[bozotheclown]

I doubt that the kidnap PM and role block PM would really be combined.

[thamrick]

The only PR left N3 was the oracle, and there is no need to RB a potential oracle when he is not the NK and has no chance of being lynched the next day because he is kidnapped. The only reason to RB bo_sox would be to switch nametags, and I do not see a reason to do that, especially since bo_sox would know he was RBed. Considering this, and the fact that bo_sox did not claim the RB initially, the RB claim is questionable enough that I think using the free lynch of bo_sox today is the best option.

If they thought Bo was the oracle, they could have RB'd Bo to keep him from getting DD from Foxy so that it would have been 5-3 with Foxy having an empty vote so really 4-3. They'd just need one wrong vote to get a mislynch and win.

OK, that is a possibility. We still have nothing to lose by lynching bo_sox to find out for sure.

Yes we do. We lose bo's input which has been more insightful and is generating discussion today.

We lose our most clear town in scum's eyes to the NK.

We still have to lynch scum tomorrow and gain no info by lynching bo mechanically if bo isn't scum.

[bozotheclown]

OK, I agree we lose bo_sox's input, but I think he is suspicious enough that I would not want count on his input being town input.

[bozotheclown]

Also, we do gain information from a bo_sox lynch, we find out if we are looking for one or two more scum.