Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#961 Post by Foxcastle » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:08 am

Durga wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:58 am
no reason to hip fire fucking mia scummy as shit snowy unless you can't roleblock him
Or unless you roleblocked him and don't want him to report it.

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#962 Post by Foxcastle » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:10 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:08 am
Durga wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:58 am
no reason to hip fire fucking mia scummy as shit snowy unless you can't roleblock him
Or unless you roleblocked him and don't want him to report it.
And by "you" I mean scum in general, I'm not making a claim that you Durga are scum.

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#963 Post by Durga » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:11 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:08 am
Durga wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:58 am
no reason to hip fire fucking mia scummy as shit snowy unless you can't roleblock him
Or unless you roleblocked him and don't want him to report it.
lmao what, why would you waste your gun on him to prevent a fucking roleblock report..... and where was today's rb? Who the hell NKs yavuz.

WHY DO NEITHER OF YOU BUY THIS. I can't understand it. It's so fucking obvious. You must both be scum???? AMazing

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#964 Post by Foxcastle » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:13 am

What do you mean, who kills Yavuz? He was an un-cc'd cop claim, who had just lynched Brainbomb. He was basically town clear. You lynch yavuz so that town sits around and says "okay, which of the 11 of us is scum" as opposed to "which of the 10 of us is scum."

Also, you totally roleblock Yavuz. Because if you don't, you run the risk of Yavuz investigating whoever has DD, transferring the DD tag to himself before the NK, at which point it lands on scum.

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#965 Post by xorxes » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:15 am

Durga wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:11 am

WHY DO NEITHER OF YOU BUY THIS. I can't understand it. It's so fucking obvious. You must both be scum???? AMazing
That would be pretty funny.

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#966 Post by Durga » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:16 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:13 am
What do you mean, who kills Yavuz? He was an un-cc'd cop claim, who had just lynched Brainbomb. He was basically town clear. You lynch yavuz so that town sits around and says "okay, which of the 11 of us is scum" as opposed to "which of the 10 of us is scum."

Also, you totally roleblock Yavuz. Because if you don't, you run the risk of Yavuz investigating whoever has DD, transferring the DD tag to himself before the NK, at which point it lands on scum.
no, you roleblock yavuz, and kill townies that have good reads. ultimately there are townies that are both widely town read and have no chance of being lynched, and have decent reads that you need to kill eventually anyway. yavuz isn't a threat. by that logic you never nk

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#967 Post by Durga » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:18 am

xorxes i'm really impressed by how not impressive you are right now. when you subbed into that game with PE in it you were such a leader, now at best you're a yes ma'am - i'm pretty sure you're scum too, buddying me won't help you.

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#968 Post by xorxes » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:18 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:13 am

Also, you totally roleblock Yavuz. Because if you don't, you run the risk of Yavuz investigating whoever has DD, transferring the DD tag to himself before the NK, at which point it lands on scum.
That's a pretty good point. Although Yavuz would have had to figure out to do this, and you two should have helped Yavuz by telling him who to scan.

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#969 Post by Durga » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:22 am

xorxes wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:18 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:13 am

Also, you totally roleblock Yavuz. Because if you don't, you run the risk of Yavuz investigating whoever has DD, transferring the DD tag to himself before the NK, at which point it lands on scum.
That's a pretty good point. Although Yavuz would have had to figure out to do this, and you two should have helped Yavuz by telling him who to scan.
Great, by that logic they should reveal so the Oracle can do the same

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#970 Post by Foxcastle » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:22 am

xorxes wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:18 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:13 am

Also, you totally roleblock Yavuz. Because if you don't, you run the risk of Yavuz investigating whoever has DD, transferring the DD tag to himself before the NK, at which point it lands on scum.
That's a pretty good point. Although Yavuz would have had to figure out to do this, and you two should have helped Yavuz by telling him who to scan.
Quite the opposite. Yavuz needed to figure it out on his own, because if we say "hey Yavuz, scan me, I'm DD" then scum definitely roleblock him as they NK him to thwart the plan. If it remained unspoken, there was a chance, slim as it may have been, that the scum team wouldn't bother with the roleblock (because they think it doesn't matter) and that Yavuz would take a 50/50 shot on one of us and maybe get it right.

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#971 Post by Durga » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:24 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:22 am
xorxes wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:18 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:13 am

Also, you totally roleblock Yavuz. Because if you don't, you run the risk of Yavuz investigating whoever has DD, transferring the DD tag to himself before the NK, at which point it lands on scum.
That's a pretty good point. Although Yavuz would have had to figure out to do this, and you two should have helped Yavuz by telling him who to scan.
Quite the opposite. Yavuz needed to figure it out on his own, because if we say "hey Yavuz, scan me, I'm DD" then scum definitely roleblock him as they NK him to thwart the plan. If it remained unspoken, there was a chance, slim as it may have been, that the scum team wouldn't bother with the roleblock (because they think it doesn't matter) and that Yavuz would take a 50/50 shot on one of us and maybe get it right.
Scum doesn't know who the Oracle is, so it can be done now. I think it's pointless because whoever is dd is likely rb - but hey

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#972 Post by xorxes » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:26 am

Durga wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:18 am
xorxes i'm really impressed
Thank you!
by how not impressive you are right now.
oops
when you subbed into that game with PE in it you were such a leader, now at best you're a yes ma'am - i'm pretty sure you're scum too, buddying me won't help you.
I'm never a leader. If you read how the vote went in that game again you can see who really got PE lynched. I provided the research, but someone else was responsible for pushing the lynch through.

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#973 Post by Foxcastle » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:28 am

How does the Oracle knowing who DD is help us?

So the Oracle visits me/ghug and inherits DD. What then? A new set of "possibly DD" develops, but scum also know that one of them is the Oracle, and so they definitely don't want to touch that person now, because not only would they inherit DD, the Oracle could reveal a town clear or peg a scum...

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#974 Post by xorxes » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:31 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:28 am
How does the Oracle knowing who DD is help us?

So the Oracle visits me/ghug and inherits DD. What then?
Then they visit again... someone who could be scum.

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#975 Post by Durga » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:32 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:28 am
How does the Oracle knowing who DD is help us?

So the Oracle visits me/ghug and inherits DD. What then? A new set of "possibly DD" develops, but scum also know that one of them is the Oracle, and so they definitely don't want to touch that person now, because not only would they inherit DD, the Oracle could reveal a town clear or peg a scum...
Thereby making the Oracle totally unkillable without severe consequences of having a scum revealed AND getting the DD tag??? sounds pretty nice to me, and the oracle can always pass the tag off to a scum read in the future

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#976 Post by Foxcastle » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:33 am

xorxes wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:31 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:28 am
How does the Oracle knowing who DD is help us?

So the Oracle visits me/ghug and inherits DD. What then?
Then they visit again... someone who could be scum.
Awesome, so basically the Oracle, who still wants to remain hidden, is secretly redistributing the null vote and can't tell anyone where it landed. That seems super unhelpful for not knowing how to count votes at EOD...

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#977 Post by Durga » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:34 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:33 am
xorxes wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:31 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:28 am
How does the Oracle knowing who DD is help us?

So the Oracle visits me/ghug and inherits DD. What then?
Then they visit again... someone who could be scum.
Awesome, so basically the Oracle, who still wants to remain hidden, is secretly redistributing the null vote and can't tell anyone where it landed. That seems super unhelpful for not knowing how to count votes at EOD...
Don't be dumb, the Oracle can also just choose not to do this, and can also idk USE THEIR WORDS to indicate whats going on.

Now, how do you not buy my RB theory? How are you so confident that ghug is town?

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#978 Post by Foxcastle » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:34 am

Durga wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:32 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:28 am
How does the Oracle knowing who DD is help us?

So the Oracle visits me/ghug and inherits DD. What then? A new set of "possibly DD" develops, but scum also know that one of them is the Oracle, and so they definitely don't want to touch that person now, because not only would they inherit DD, the Oracle could reveal a town clear or peg a scum...
Thereby making the Oracle totally unkillable without severe consequences of having a scum revealed AND getting the DD tag??? sounds pretty nice to me, and the oracle can always pass the tag off to a scum read in the future
The risk of the oracle dying and revealing a scum/townclear is kinda the point. When you give scum a list of people who could fuck them, because the know who might have DD, they might say "well, let's not NK any of them" and then you don't actually get any benefit from the Oracle.

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#979 Post by Ezio » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:35 am

##vote foxcastle.
He understands exactly why the Oracle knowing who dd is has value for town.

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Re: Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

#980 Post by xorxes » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:35 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:33 am
Awesome, so basically the Oracle, who still wants to remain hidden, is secretly redistributing the null vote and can't tell anyone where it landed. That seems super unhelpful for not knowing how to count votes at EOD...
You don't think taking a scum motivated vote out of the equation is good for town?

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