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TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:01 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:22 pm

But yes let me explain my read on Foxcastle.

Let's break down his iso. Only 16 posts so not a lengthy task:

- After pointing out the bot error, he starts complaining about the poor quality of the early shitposting. Durga asked him about this and he made a long rambling bloviating post about serotonin levels. Real "look at me and my extensive vocabulary" stuff.

- I jokingly suggest he should go on Joe Rogan's podcast (where people often talk in that self-satisfied pseudo-intellectual manner) and he sarcastically encourages me.

- He predicts that Durga will want to kill a lurker.

- Similar sarcastic encouragement towards BobMcBob.

- Claims to assume the votes on DeathLlama would be "joke votes" but notes that the people on the wagon take things seriously (implying their votes are sincere; I know mine was). Also thinks that all the votes on Durga are joke votes.

- Provides some simple points of advice to Clamp.

- Suggests he finds Bob and Bona hard to read.

- Durga responds to his comment about how the votes on DeathLlama were not joke votes. Fox replies "I didn't mean you, obviously". This is a bit odd as it implies that Foxcastle thinks Durga was joke-voting.

- Says "I like how Lamp thinks" in response to Clamp asking if "cool" means "town" in the context of Bob saying "bona is cool".

- Challenges Bob to update his view on DeathLlama "now that DL is back". Note that, at the time Foxcastle said this, DeathLlama had indicated "just got off a plane" but had not actually contributed any more.

- Engages in a short nit-picking argument with Kgray about whether he was "looking for laughs".

So let's summarise the weight of these posts:

1. He is very dismissive of the DeathLlama wagon, and when DL shows up he seems very keen for people to re-evaluate their DL votes, even before DL has said anything useful.

2. He predicts that Durga will want to kill lurkers, yet when Durga does vote for a lurker (DeathLlama), he implies Durga was joke voting.

3. He repeatedly offers help and support to Clamp.

4. His other posts are composed mostly of sarcasm and bloviating.

This does NOT remind me of Town!Foxcastle earnestly looking for scum and trying to solve the game. Zero scumhunting is evidenced from these posts.

This DOES remind me of Scum!Foxcastle trying to appear present and active without doing much, lowkey defending a lurker (team mate?) and lowkey buddying the newbie.

Conclusion: I think Foxcastle is scum.

For @vecna this is how and where the case began. Important to note that while DL was town it is important to note a) that Fox could only know that if he were scum and b) that jamie is correct to point out this forceful defense came before DL justified any such defense.

As for you, I feel you're a really strong player, but your reread seems pretty poor and low-effort and your posting just doesn't give me the vibe of vecna making good reads and trying to solve.

BusinessLamp wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:14 am

the only thing to come out of the ghug fake claim for me is that bob’s immediate “seems legit” feels forced. still undecided on Bob as a whole though

Durga wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:33 am

Dead game

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:35 am

VOTE COUNT VERSION 2.04

goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:42 pm

Oh hey, TFB showed up. Just letting you know, boat, posting the long reads post you did and then immediately dipping ain't a good look. I do that as scum all the time.

Bob, if you want people to stop scumreading you, how about stop being reactive and start being proactive. Because right now my eyes glaze over when I see posts from you or mentioning you, because it's been circular for two days now.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:40 am

Anyone want me to explain why I'm voting for Vecna?

BobMcBob wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:42 am

goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:42 pm

Oh hey, TFB showed up. Just letting you know, boat, posting the long reads post you did and then immediately dipping ain't a good look. I do that as scum all the time.

Bob, if you want people to stop scumreading you, how about stop being reactive and start being proactive. Because right now my eyes glaze over when I see posts from you or mentioning you, because it's been circular for two days now.

I am generating a lot of content thanks. If/when I flip, there won't be a single person, lurkers included who hasn't interacted with me meaningfully. Except maybe Demon.

The question I have for you is: do you think my reactiveness is actually indicative of me being scum or does it just make me less likeable and easier to scumread? And do you think that me asking questions of and interacting with people is useless?

goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:44 am

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:40 am

Anyone want me to explain why I'm voting for Vecna?

Me, please. I didn't get the case on Fox from D1. Fox left halfway through the day, right?

goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:46 am

BobMcBob wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:42 am

goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:42 pm

Oh hey, TFB showed up. Just letting you know, boat, posting the long reads post you did and then immediately dipping ain't a good look. I do that as scum all the time.

Bob, if you want people to stop scumreading you, how about stop being reactive and start being proactive. Because right now my eyes glaze over when I see posts from you or mentioning you, because it's been circular for two days now.

I am generating a lot of content thanks. If/when I flip, there won't be a single person, lurkers included who hasn't interacted with me meaningfully. Except maybe Demon.

The question I have for you is: do you think my reactiveness is actually indicative of me being scum or does it just make me less likeable and easier to scumread? And do you think that me asking questions of and interacting with people is useless?

I personally think it's at the very least making you less likeable. And I think asking the right questions is more important than just asking questions. Much of the crap between you and bozo, for example, is in my eyes utterly pointless.