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kgray wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:08 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:20 am

BusinessLamp wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:45 pm

How does the new knowledge of Bob being the main counter wagon change your analysis

Late, I realize phase has passed but I'm reading from where I left off.

Fundamentally it doesn't change anything. By the time Bob was the leading counter-wagon, the votes on Flum were massively ahead of everyone else. Scum would still been looking to jump around.

ngl I didn't read your wall post super closely so maybe you explained it there (i'll go back to it at some point) but I don't understand why scum would be trying to jump around if town!Flum is massively ahead of everyone else. wouldn't scum want him dead?

kgray wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:10 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:01 am

At risk of inflating HR's ego, I'm going to make another post about him.

While my hypothesis of town being the lead wagons EOD1 fit with a scumread of HR, my scumread is not dependent upon that hypothesis. Word for word, I found him scummy for these reasons 1) HR was very indecisive on how he felt about Flum. Constantly hedged his statements. 2) He also deflected heat from damo, Bob and Donny towards the end of the day as people were feeling out possibilities for other wagons. He was open for rdrivera though, who I find to be pretty towny thus far.

How come you don't scumread me more if these things bothered you about HR? Pretty sure I did all of that also.

BusinessLamp wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:24 pm

Chaqa, rdr, and others overall, please know when you base your entire read on someone on their meta it does absolutely nothing for me and feels extremely weak without specific citations. I’m not saying don’t use it at all because yeah, I see how change of behavior pattern over games would potentially be a reliable indicator. As new guy tho it’s kind of frustrating to have a whole read be “idk he’s acting different than [vague scum games], I think he’s fine.” which can also be waved away later as “huh, guess he tried something new.”

kgray wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:41 pm

celaph wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:53 am

ghug wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:01 am

##VOTE celaph

Say more.

wtf you're gonna react to ghug voting you but not me?

BusinessLamp wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:24 pm

Chaqa, rdr, and others overall, please know when you base your entire read on someone on their meta it does absolutely nothing for me and feels extremely weak without specific citations. I’m not saying don’t use it at all because yeah, I see how change of behavior pattern over games would potentially be a reliable indicator. As new guy tho it’s kind of frustrating to have a whole read be “idk he’s acting different than [vague scum games], I think he’s fine.” which can also be waved away later as “huh, guess he tried something new.”

BusinessLamp wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:45 pm

ghug when did you decide to fakeclaim roleblocked

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:01 pm

BusinessLamp wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:24 pm

Chaqa, rdr, and others overall, please know when you base your entire read on someone on their meta it does absolutely nothing for me and feels extremely weak without specific citations. I’m not saying don’t use it at all because yeah, I see how change of behavior pattern over games would potentially be a reliable indicator. As new guy tho it’s kind of frustrating to have a whole read be “idk he’s acting different than [vague scum games], I think he’s fine.” which can also be waved away later as “huh, guess he tried something new.”

Agree with you but it´s hard to not use meta with people you have played a lot of games and have a clear meta to my eyes. I try to not use only meta to build a case against someone, but to have someone as town is inevitable sometimes.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:00 pm

BusinessLamp wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:45 pm

ghug when did you decide to fakeclaim roleblocked

Yes, when?
And not only that, but why, wherefore, and for what reason?

kgray wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:04 pm

BobMcBob wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:00 am

Huh, kgray really took any excuse to jump off of celaph and durga huh? THis also looks good for ghug, both the fakeclaiming RB and voting me over "not believing the claim". Not a good look for kgray though.
##vote celaph

I forgot I moved off of celaph lmao

I had a thought about the way you reacted to ghug's claim and the way ghug and HR reacted that and I thought it'd be fun to do one of those "pressure" votes. But I will go back to ##vote celaph

kgray wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:14 pm

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:32 am

goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:08 am

I hate this post.

Damo, how can it be a silly reaction test if you now no longer suspect Chaqa of being scum? Would you have felt the same way if Chaqa claimed and nobody counter-claimed?

Also while I understand the interaction between Chaqa and ghug can be convincing, we cannot rule out that scum RB'd DeathLlama. There's only two PRs, and if they thought DL was one, it's a 50/50 chance its Doc. If I was scum I'd be roleblocking my kill every night. Why is nobody else even mentioning this possibility?

Bullshit. Roleblocking the kill is such a dumb play when there’s multiple PRs out there, I know you’re better than that.

##Vote goldfinger

Throw him out the airlock

Can you make those archived QTs available so it's possible to check if you endorse this as scum? I won't do it, but maybe bozo will. Thanks.

goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:44 pm

Also, how do you see who +1s posts

Durga wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:53 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:44 pm

Also, how do you see who +1s posts

Goldie you're literally a mod

kgray wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:22 pm

Yeah okay so celaph's 'reads' so far have been pretty bland surface-level statements and his questions seem to be more about finding inconsistencies with or asking for clarification on other people's reads. He's neither looking into motivations nor drawing any insightful conclusions of his own.

And I seriously cannot believe he didn't react at all to me scumreading and voting him. I'm hurt and extremely suspicious. Let's get him.

Also I think boatman is scummy now, and the two of them with ghug make sense as a scumteam in my mind.

Also happy with a Fox/Vecna wagon. That slot has done nothing towny.

goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:56 pm

Durga wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:53 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:44 pm

Also, how do you see who +1s posts

Goldie you're literally a mod

Honorary, pretty much. And I only really go on webDip on mobile, so that explains why I can't see lol

goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:56 pm

Durga wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:53 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:44 pm

Also, how do you see who +1s posts

Goldie you're literally a mod

Honorary, pretty much. And I only really go on webDip on mobile, so that explains why I can't see lol