M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[kgray]

Either bob hasn't bothered reading anything or he's deliberating misleading idk but i hate it

Either that or I forgot when I went to sleep for 8 hours. You see all the posts I've +1ed? I have read every single one of them. So if I've missed something it's not due to me being lazy as you and HR apparently keep trying to propagate.

I don't think scum!Bob keeps misrepresenting HR's point unless HR is scum also, but even then, this would be weird.

[BobMcBob]

Either bob hasn't bothered reading anything or he's deliberating misleading idk but i hate it

Either that or I forgot when I went to sleep for 8 hours. You see all the posts I've +1ed? I have read every single one of them. So if I've missed something it's not due to me being lazy as you and HR apparently keep trying to propagate.

Okay but I feel like ghug has stated why he voted flum at least twice

No wonder I forgot it, it's barely a reason. But to be fair I can see ghug doing that if the flum wagon seems to be irreversibly running away with it with one minute left.

[BobMcBob]

He usually takes more of a backseat on day one specifically. It's plausible he's just excited to play again, but he seemed primed to do his normal thing and then suddenly got very active late in the day, most of which time was spent dissuading counterwagons. I also don't really get why he scumread Flum, and when he voted, he just said that he liked all the wagons even as he was basically making it a two-way race between Flum and Donny.

I agree that Donny reacted townily. I don't really think Bob did, and it felt more like he was forcing a townread on Bob to justify protecting him than an organic evolution of a read.

Nah I've definitely seen him active late in D1 after not doing much earlier. Someone said something like that in this game even, about how he'd be around 2 hours before EOD or something. Demon maybe?

Like I said, if Rivera is scum, I'm way more sus of HR. But I felt at the time like we were working on solving together, and even though he was annoyingly resistant to voting Rivera, his thought process seemed towny enough.

Also I don't really see him protecting his scumbuddy Bob and then them getting into the argument they had at the start of N1.

I don't think Bob even necessarily has to be his scumbuddy. He has an established scum meta of defending the shit out of weak townies to keep them distracting town and create confusing connections. Rivera is very plausible, as is Donny, given the timing of the Flum vote, though I lean town on Donny for other reasons.

Thank you for your kind words ghug.

[kgray]

This hurts my heart to say but I think Durga is scum and I don't know that Celaph is town

[BobMcBob]

Why?

Bob was overconfident about Fluminator being town, and ghug's switch from Bob to Fluminator only makes sense if he was protecting Bob. ghug's vote for rdrivera also did not make sense unless he was trying to pull your vote off of Donny.

So they're scum dependent on your scumread of ghug? Where have you even made a case for scum!ghug?

Donny's reaction to being a wagon was majorly towny, and I stated I wanted to move off of him well before ghug voted Rivera.

shhhhh, ghug's harder to kill, and it's easy to jump on me or Donny tomorrow without much suspicion.

[Jamiet99uk]

This night phase has sucked.

Damo has avoided my question.

Vecna has generally been in hiding.

What a load of fucking crap.

[DeathLlama8]

This hurts my heart to say but I think Durga is scum and I don't know that Celaph is town :cry:

can you elaborate before one of them nightkills you

[kgray]

This night phase has sucked.

Damo has avoided my question.

Vecna has generally been in hiding.

What a load of fucking crap.

Vecna's slot is very scummy and I bet he relies on his reputation and OOG excuses as a way to avoid contributing no matter what his alignment... If he doesn't show up and townread me, I say we kill him.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Vecna: You are a fucking coward. Prove me wrong.

[DeathLlama8]

I wanted to build a new counterwagon to see if we could get some movement going at EoD. Which brings me to an interesting point: You shaded me off of the damo AND the celaph wagons:

okay and?

...

And you're calling events you were involved in weird. It's 'Who Shot Hannibal' in mafia form.

I don't think what made your EOD weird was the part I was involved in

that being said, why did you want to counterwagon celaph/think he was a viable counterwagon? At the time you just said something about not wanting to confuse EOD and make your reads clear when you justified voting for him

[Bonatogether]

I believe votes are a good place to look scum motivation. After reviewing the 98 votes placed D1, ghug's votes for rdrivera and Fluminator were 2 of the most suspicious.

why would you count LOL

I did not count, but my methodology for processing all of the votes produced the number.

what is your methodology? what is the goal?

[kgray]

This hurts my heart to say but I think Durga is scum and I don't know that Celaph is town

can you elaborate before one of them nightkills you

Durga is mostly a gut feeling that I had last game but was too much of a coward (I mean good friend) to continue thinking about, but mostly I 100% believe she'd fight harder for Flum as town.

Celaph was asking more questions then giving reads and iirc that's how he plays scum, where he gives more of his own thoughts as town. Also he hasn't been buddying me as much as I was hoping for and that's not me being narcissistic, that's me wondering if he feels awkward interacting with me.

And it hurts my heart because I love both of them dearly and tbh I will still probably waver to kill them if I'm the one deciding.

[ghug]

I believe votes are a good place to look scum motivation. After reviewing the 98 votes placed D1, ghug's votes for rdrivera and Fluminator were 2 of the most suspicious.

Do you not agree with the assessment I made at the time I voted Fluminator that further vote switches were unlikely to change the outcome?

Pretty shitty to vote for Flum based on a joke even if you thought it was unlikely to change the outcome. I voted bob even though I thought it was unlikely to matter.

Why did you ask why nobody was moving before moving yourself?

[Jamiet99uk]

This night phase has sucked.

Damo has avoided my question.

Vecna has generally been in hiding.

What a load of fucking crap.

Vecna's slot is very scummy and I bet he relies on his reputation and OOG excuses as a way to avoid contributing no matter what his alignment... If he doesn't show up and townread me, I say we kill him.

I agree with you.

Let's kill Vecna tomorrow.

Do you agree?

[kgray]

Do you not agree with the assessment I made at the time I voted Fluminator that further vote switches were unlikely to change the outcome?

Pretty shitty to vote for Flum based on a joke even if you thought it was unlikely to change the outcome. I voted bob even though I thought it was unlikely to matter.

Why did you ask why nobody was moving before moving yourself?

I mean I wasn't voting for Flum

[kgray]

This night phase has sucked.

Damo has avoided my question.

Vecna has generally been in hiding.

What a load of fucking crap.

Vecna's slot is very scummy and I bet he relies on his reputation and OOG excuses as a way to avoid contributing no matter what his alignment... If he doesn't show up and townread me, I say we kill him.

I agree with you.

Let's kill Vecna tomorrow.

Do you agree?

deal, and if either of us die tonight Vecna is clearly conf!scum

[ghug]

Nah I've definitely seen him active late in D1 after not doing much earlier. Someone said something like that in this game even, about how he'd be around 2 hours before EOD or something. Demon maybe?

Like I said, if Rivera is scum, I'm way more sus of HR. But I felt at the time like we were working on solving together, and even though he was annoyingly resistant to voting Rivera, his thought process seemed towny enough.

Also I don't really see him protecting his scumbuddy Bob and then them getting into the argument they had at the start of N1.

I don't think Bob even necessarily has to be his scumbuddy. He has an established scum meta of defending the shit out of weak townies to keep them distracting town and create confusing connections. Rivera is very plausible, as is Donny, given the timing of the Flum vote, though I lean town on Donny for other reasons.

Thank you for your kind words ghug.

Weak meaning vulnerable, not necessarily bad.

[Durga]

This hurts my heart to say but I think Durga is scum and I don't know that Celaph is town

I'm straight up not and I don't even know why you're scum reading me other than the not defending flum enough bs

[ghug]

This hurts my heart to say but I think Durga is scum and I don't know that Celaph is town

can you elaborate before one of them nightkills you

They've both been kinda lame.

[Hellenic Riot]

My thunder is really being stolen right now