M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[BusinessLamp]

How often are day one votes town v town? I’d imagine often with a competent mafia

Pretty regularly yeah, although not necessarily due to a competent mafia.

wait a second I need someone other than you to answer this LOL

[BobMcBob]

How often are day one votes town v town? I’d imagine often with a competent mafia

Pretty regularly yeah, although not necessarily due to a competent mafia.

wait a second I need someone other than you to answer this LOL

I see your point though lol

[BobMcBob]

gm Bob, while you're catching up - what's your take on Flum right now?

Awful choice for a kill, probably town, I'd much rather we take out flyingboat.
I missed a lot on the way through huh?

[DeathLlama8]

going through eod now
tbh heart hasn't really been in the game so far, if it doesn't get better i might sub out so town can get all the good players lmao

[DeathLlama8]

Thus we must COME TOGETHER and UNIONIZE!!!! We must form a trusted group of individuals, all of whom vow to trust each other implicitly in the coming days and move as a bloc to take out the mafia. The rules of the town council are as follows:

we've come full circle from M1

[BobMcBob]

So your thought process was:

"Bozo just said he townreads me because I said I'm town"
"I've had an idea! I will make up a false claim about how this is a trust tell for me, it will be a great reaction test. If I'm questioned about my actual previous scum games, I can say I was roleplaying as Maniac and Jeff Kuta at the time. "

Yes? This is your answer? This is what you'd like us to believe?

Yes to your first sentence. No to your second.
I had no idea what I said in my previous scum game. I'm much more of an improvisor.

At what point did you decide to make up the additional nonsense about Maniac and Jeff Kuta, and why?

This looks like Jamie trying to dig a bigger hole for flum because it didn't have enough traction at the time or something. Not a good look. There is no possible good outcome to this question, not that I expect that'd stop Jamie.

[goldfinger0303]

Okay, I'm going to keep this an active running commentary. It's becoming too much to keep in my head. This is around page 38. I see Flum has flipped town and am keeping this in mind. Pages are approximates. Hopefully the opinion of someone reading this fresh is useful.

Flum claims town. Bozo, ghug and Durga are the first to believe him. In the context of everything else they've posted thus far, I believe they, too, are town.

I don't like Chaqa's initial reaction to bozo's list of people who aren't contributing. I think it's actually rather on par for bozo's town play. Moreso, other people (by page 38) have posted similarly lazy reads and haven't been called out for it.

DL is more active D1 than I think I've ever seen them be (has literally been a bottom 5 poster every game I can remember). Also came when summoned.

I think some of the early active posters are scum. So looking at Donny, Bona, BusinessLamp. This is more of a hunch than anything specifically they've written.

Jamiet is constantly referring to blamp as clamp. Otherwise, strong town vibes.

Bob missed me on their list of every player in the game. DemonRHK called them out for it....knowing that I'm a vanilla town, I read this as both town. At the very least, I read it as town for Bob...scum wouldn't make such a mistake. For Demon, it could be plausibly read either way, as it's a really easy thing to accuse as a scumslip.

I don't like damo's contribution to the game thus far.

P.39 - I kinda agree with TFB's assessment on DL. Hypocritical or no (as HR points out) I agree with it.

P40 - Oh, Jamiet led the push on Flum. Maniac is following though, and kgray defending Flum. To me, this looks worst for Maniac.

P42 - TFB actually does research on Flum to back up Jamiet. Kgray still defending Flum. To me this reads well on both of them.

P44 - Flum says he's trolling. Chaqa believes it a little too easily, and posts scum reads that really don't vibe with what I'm feeling thus far. But I agree with him on TFB...don't know how I feel about that.

P.46 ghug says no vote on celaph and kgray immediately unvotes. rdrivera says bozo isn't scum with confidence. I also think Donny says when he checked the bot Flum *did* do a trust tell? This counters TFB's research post 4 pages back.

p.48 - Chaqa seems to be tunneling on bozo and llama. Responding to ghug's list of people not to kill. DL says they feel better about celaph, when to me celaph's contribution hasn't seemed to change much in effort or direction.

P.49 Donny agree's on DL's new take on celaph. DL votes Bob seemingly out of nowhere? blamp immediately calls it out.

p.50 lol damo voted and hammers on flum. Bona immediately votes damo, but misquotes their vote? DL trying to figure out damo's meta. Flum starts counterwagon on TFB and bona joins.

p.53 - blamp votes Durga, kgray townreads blamp for it. Damo agreeing with TFB's posts without doing much to add. Demon posts some meaningless stats. Durga starts to townread Flum. HR softs that Flum might be town. Flum tunnels on TFB. Jamiet doubles down on Flum. I like Durga's line of questioning. Hardest pushes on Flum seem to be Jamiet, TFB and kgray.

P.58 - DL tries to push the wagon to Durga. Defends Flum. Chaqa tunneling on Durga/Flum scumteam.

P.61 - more pressure on DL from Durga. Bob feels off about damo. Chaqa really going into Durga here on defending Flum....which doesn't really make sense if Chaqa is scum, huh. But man I've been scumreading him pretty hard thus far. blamp tries to move a wagon onto Donny Dude. Donny then softs moving off celaph.

p.62 bona sheeps Bob to vote Maniac. DL joins, despite I don't think ever mentioning anything about Donny? He just said "How do people feel about Donny" then "He seems floaty" and then votes him. Chaqa says a vote on Donny wouldn't reveal info. blamp is trying to see how many join the wagon. kgray and Durga join. Jamie and bona worry about the sudden wagon.

P.66 - of all the people jumping on his wagon, Donny singles out Durga to vote against. Not a lead wagon either. Imo - and I'll say this now. Donny is scum and knows its safe to not jump on a leading wagon. There's enough scum out there to sway votes onto other wagons. My scum reads at this point are Donny, Damo, and Dealthlama. With questions on HR, Maniac, Vecna, and Bob.

P.67 - getting the sense many people don't like the wagons. Bona, Durga, ghug. Flum inadvertently asks to get voted lol. kgray and ghug soft willingness to move to rdrivera. Demon wants to vote damo. rdrivera omgus's kgray.

p.72 HR starts a case on rdrivera. TFB agrees, but ties it to scumread on Flum. Durga would vote Bob. kgray is looking suuuuper wishy-washy. Haven't said much about them yet in this recap, but they're all over the place. Donny notably not present at 30 min to EOD and they're on the block.

p.75 - Durga and a few others hopping from wagon to wagon to save Flum. Donny comes back, and NO mention of the huge wagon that had formed on him and dissipated. Odd. HR calls Bob's posts townie. Ghug disagrees. I agree with ghug.

p.80 - Bob is more sassy at the flip than he deserved to be, for making no counter-case to Flum, really. Durga raises a good point on TFB dropping out once he was no longer a wagon

[goldfinger0303]

@rdrivera- are you 100% vanilla town?

[BobMcBob]

going through eod now
tbh heart hasn't really been in the game so far, if it doesn't get better i might sub out so town can get all the good players lmao

No don't, you're fun!

[goldfinger0303]

Also, I love the little trivia facts Sabi has been doing. Best GM.

[BobMcBob]

##vote donny dude

maybe lets do this instead

allegedly feels good about celaph but hasnt pushed anything else

I like this as a push at the time. Looks good for blamp.

[DeathLlama8]

hey gold, everything work out with the burst pipe?

also you missed all two games where i was good at mafia

[Maniac]

RIP flum

@jamie - I actually don’t blame you for leading this charge and you seem townie to me, but victim blaming isn’t a cool look. I suspect you take things very literally am I right? Sometimes that great but sometimes there is nuance to what people do.

What’s your thoughts on Bob. I’m still scumreading him but also pretty time poor. Be good if you could iso him and give us your thoughts

[goldfinger0303]

Here's the TLDR for my post

Ghug, Jamiet, blamp, bozo, and bona, are all pretty high townreads for me...roughly in that order.

Damo, HR, Bob, DL, Donny are all top scumreads...with a big question mark for Maniac as well.

Vecna and celaph left *zero* impression on me. Say what you will about that. Durga is an enigma to me, as always.

[goldfinger0303]

hey gold, everything work out with the burst pipe?

also you missed all two games where i was good at mafia

Adjuster came by today, and the pipe got fixed. It was the sprinkler system, not my actual water, fortunately. But I've finished drying most things out and prepping the area for demo tomorrow. A team's coming in the morning and ripping up the floor/walls/ceiling.

[BobMcBob]

@kgray @ghug @durga

thoughts on a donny vote?

Voting Donny doesn’t seem like it would reveal much information. Whoever we flip today should be someone heavily involved or discussed

Since when has this ever been a thing that we champion on webdip?

[kgray]

Why are people giving HR credit for the Rivera case? I started that case. HR didn’t even vote for Rivera and specifically said he didn’t want to push Rivera and was happy with Flum.

[kgray]

If anything HR was encouraging my scumread of Flum based on my scumread of Rivera.

[BusinessLamp]

goldfinger really buddying up to the town council…

lmao jk, thank you for the thoughts. would be interested for you to articulate on kgray a bit more. I’m exploring the thought of a Durga/donny scum pair which would make sense as to why donny was calm. But also maybe donny was just calm. Need to reread

[BobMcBob]

I can´t catch up now. Can someone explain me why Donny?

Can you explain why anyone else?

Oh look, he isn't just rude to me! I mostly forgive you HR.