M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[TheFlyingBoat]

He absolutely feels gripped by rust. He's clearly highly competent, but he does and says things that don't quite fit with the meta. You're also ignoring the other part of the argument, which is that his switch to the non-main counterwagon makes more sense given his stated preference for killing you or Flum rather than just not killing Flum.

I mean couldn't you say the same about Bona who also delineated his preferences for kill as me > Flum > Bob?

Did he? I know he switched to Flum claiming wagonomics, which I found odd in itself at the time.

The vote I took the most issue with was RHK's, though now I townread him for other reasons.

Yes, going back to read the wagonomics thing it did seem weird and a bit forced and seemed almost a bit like scum!bona trying to be town!bona but prior in the day he said he would only vote for Ghug, me, Llama, celaph, and Flum, and I think elsewhere he stated I was his favorite wagon.

[Chaqa]

okay ngl I thought flum was PR

god strike me down for going into night kill discussion against my better judgment but...

why are people saying DL was a PR kill when this post indicates he was likely not PR

it was prob just random to throw ppl

Double bluff by DL

[BusinessLamp]

i refuse to believe you aren't experienced at forum mafia

oh sorry just saw this post for first time when rereading donny bandwagon, would've clarified sooner if i saw this

do you have any previous games from somewhere?

played on MS as Quackerz, i think some games got lost when site crashed or something but a couple are there

[Bonatogether]

i mean yeah i think you can see the progression naturally, unless you think i've been acting. which i guess could be the case, but feels like an unnecessary stunt to pull

this entire interaction is scummy as fuck and i hate hate hate it

Why?

it's just obviously bad

[TheFlyingBoat]

Speaking of things I saw when rereading bona, where is the vca you promised? It seems you have been spending a lot of time taking potshots but not a bunch of time making that.

[Bonatogether]

I mean couldn't you say the same about Bona who also delineated his preferences for kill as me > Flum > Bob?

Did he? I know he switched to Flum claiming wagonomics, which I found odd in itself at the time.

The vote I took the most issue with was RHK's, though now I townread him for other reasons.

Yes, going back to read the wagonomics thing it did seem weird and a bit forced and seemed almost a bit like scum!bona trying to be town!bona but prior in the day he said he would only vote for Ghug, me, Llama, celaph, and Flum, and I think elsewhere he stated I was his favorite wagon.

you've never seen scum!bona, and barely played with town!bona, so idfk what you're talking about

also i have no recollection of ever saying anything like a votepool

[Chaqa]

I’m back to being about that town!Bona life

[TheFlyingBoat]

Did he? I know he switched to Flum claiming wagonomics, which I found odd in itself at the time.

The vote I took the most issue with was RHK's, though now I townread him for other reasons.

Yes, going back to read the wagonomics thing it did seem weird and a bit forced and seemed almost a bit like scum!bona trying to be town!bona but prior in the day he said he would only vote for Ghug, me, Llama, celaph, and Flum, and I think elsewhere he stated I was his favorite wagon.

you've never seen scum!bona, and barely played with town!bona, so idfk what you're talking about

also i have no recollection of ever saying anything like a votepool

Awfully defensive there mate. This is based off of what I've heard of your scum game and your town game by reputation where you try to mimic your normal town weirdness as scum but then just behave in weirder ways which don't seem like you

[celaph]

Okay, it's celaph time!
First, he missed N1 entirely, which struck me as odd, but on further searching it is not wholly unusual for celaph.
He seems to have homed in a lot on me, kgray and goldie. He has come to very few conclusions and asked a lot of questions, although that is rather standard procedure for him. He hasn't done anything obviously bad other than ignoring kgray more than expected. Slightly odd that he'd be conscious of buddying.

Honestly, I went into this read expecting (and in fact wanting) to scumread celaph more. I pulled up three of his games to try and make something out of him being inactive at night, but as it is, I can't bring myself to give him much more than a scumlean. The only thing stopping me from leaving it there is that a number of other people who know him better as scum are getting scum vibes from him, and I trust that quite a bit.

I have noticed that celaph is reacting a lot to the three of us as well, Bob. I had wanted to get more of a response from my buddying comment before bringing it up.

Thought I got that point last night. Seeing now that I didn't.

It felt like Bob was complaining about the buddying and it just felt awkward to continue.

[Bonatogether]

oh sorry just saw this post for first time when rereading donny bandwagon, would've clarified sooner if i saw this

do you have any previous games from somewhere?

played on MS as Quackerz, i think some games got lost when site crashed or something but a couple are there

gimmie da links

[BusinessLamp]

i refuse to believe you aren't experienced at forum mafia

oh sorry just saw this post for first time when rereading donny bandwagon, would've clarified sooner if i saw this

do you have any previous games from somewhere?

newbie 1088 replace in as mafia (and win! wow!), newbie 1350 am cop

[Bonatogether]

Speaking of things I saw when rereading bona, where is the vca you promised? It seems you have been spending a lot of time taking potshots but not a bunch of time making that.

wouldn't you like to know, boat boy

[BusinessLamp]

do you have any previous games from somewhere?

played on MS as Quackerz, i think some games got lost when site crashed or something but a couple are there

gimmie da links

was only hesitant because some sites are weird about linking offsite

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=17182

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=26585

[Bonatogether]

Yes, going back to read the wagonomics thing it did seem weird and a bit forced and seemed almost a bit like scum!bona trying to be town!bona but prior in the day he said he would only vote for Ghug, me, Llama, celaph, and Flum, and I think elsewhere he stated I was his favorite wagon.

you've never seen scum!bona, and barely played with town!bona, so idfk what you're talking about

also i have no recollection of ever saying anything like a votepool

Awfully defensive there mate. This is based off of what I've heard of your scum game and your town game by reputation where you try to mimic your normal town weirdness as scum but then just behave in weirder ways which don't seem like you

i'm only calling you out for talking out of your ass lmao

[celaph]

i can’t sleep and maybe it is because I have my vote on my dear friend celaph

##unvote

Hey that's my line

Well, you went to sleep with a vote on me so obviously not.

[Bonatogether]

played on MS as Quackerz, i think some games got lost when site crashed or something but a couple are there

gimmie da links

was only hesitant because some sites are weird about linking offsite

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=17182

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=26585

how the hell did you remember these from 2011 and 2013?

[BusinessLamp]

i can’t sleep and maybe it is because I have my vote on my dear friend celaph

##unvote

Hey that's my line

Well, you went to sleep with a vote on me so obviously not.

our relationship runs deeper, we shouldn't hide it from kgray anymore

[BusinessLamp]

gimmie da links

was only hesitant because some sites are weird about linking offsite

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=17182

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=26585

how the hell did you remember these from 2011 and 2013?

i logged in and had them in bookmarks

[celaph]

Yeah, especially with how he said he was conscious of buddying me, and even more especially with how I feel like he was ignoring the pressure on him. But I just looked back at his first game when was town and on the block (M62 D5) and he mostly ignored the wagon forming on him then too. I really don't know.

I think being wary of buddying is sus but my question is why he admits this as scum

True, but he needed some excuse to be avoiding me. I guess he could've just said "yeah I really just think kgray is annoying and I wish she'd leave me alone"

I would never.

[Donny Dude]

Yes, going back to read the wagonomics thing it did seem weird and a bit forced and seemed almost a bit like scum!bona trying to be town!bona but prior in the day he said he would only vote for Ghug, me, Llama, celaph, and Flum, and I think elsewhere he stated I was his favorite wagon.

you've never seen scum!bona, and barely played with town!bona, so idfk what you're talking about

also i have no recollection of ever saying anything like a votepool

Awfully defensive there mate. This is based off of what I've heard of your scum game and your town game by reputation where you try to mimic your normal town weirdness as scum but then just behave in weirder ways which don't seem like you

You're basing this off reputation and hearsay??
Although defensive, I dont like TFB using meta of others read of bona as a way to hedge. It feels weak and more like looking for a reason to scumread someone.
Is your read of bona still null?