M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[celaph]

##vote TFB

I don't feel like he's coming at things from a towny perspective and he's a much better cw than Bob.

[Jamiet99uk]

Durga was there any actual desire to get Jamie today?

Don't be ridiculous.

[kgray]

I wasn't saying the EOD was weird for town. I was saying it was him trying to replicate his normal weirdness but in the attempt to do so created something that weird for bona and didn't seem right.

Do you have a link to that game?

no i don't remember the numbers. he was scum in jamie's multi-mafia alien game and a VT in the mini that ghug ran.

Wait if it's multi that doesn't count much, does it? He basically has an extraordinarily long leash to hunt scum in a townie manner. As for the mini do you remember vaguely when it was so I can search for it myself?

sure it was multi but i'm saying he'll put in effort as scum.

um maybe a year ago? vecna was scum and beat me in kylo the same weekend he ruined my second vFTF ever game

[Jamiet99uk]

Durga was there any actual desire to get Jamie today?

What's the case? Do you think scum!Jamie can pull off that kind of tunnel on flum? I'd rather get tfb because I felt he was encouraging and leeching off of Jamie d1 and still kinda is d2

Yes, I absolutely believe scum Jamie is capable of an intense tunnel over catching someone in a lie. Do you not?

He spent most of today coasting on the townreads he's earned, and the recent Chaqa push is entirely based on willful misinterpretation.

What will it take for us to have a game together in which you don't scumread me?

Do I have to send you nudes?

[Jamiet99uk]

What's the case? Do you think scum!Jamie can pull off that kind of tunnel on flum? I'd rather get tfb because I felt he was encouraging and leeching off of Jamie d1 and still kinda is d2

Yes, I absolutely believe scum Jamie is capable of an intense tunnel over catching someone in a lie. Do you not?

He spent most of today coasting on the townreads he's earned, and the recent Chaqa push is entirely based on willful misinterpretation.

I don't recall, I agree with you that his coasting today is sus. Another thing I didn't like was that he seems to be playing into the idea that he can't take a joke by doing that whole Chaqa push. It almost felt as if he was trying to replicate the reasoning on the Flum push that liars must be scum for idk... Consistency sake?

BUT, this is Jamie, so what do I know. His temperment is town Jamie to me but I guess you said he can also be angry as scum.

Are you saying that Chaqa's roleblock claim, and then saying he hadn't been thinking about the reasons to roleblock him for two days, was a joke?

I can't parse that level of humour.

I absolutely CAN accept that he might have been using the phrase "two days ago" as a kind of general, broad brush term for "a while ago", and that's plausible, but your repeated assertions that everything Chaqa says should be written off as "a joke", except when Chaqa is critical of you, is a bit much, Durga.

[celaph]

celaph sneaking the 6th vote on the donny bandwagon while not acknowledging that there are many votes on the donny bandwagon seems off

donny is p solidly town for me now btw. i dont have good reason for it, dont ask

What kind of acknowledgement are you expecting? "Yes, I know I'm making Donny the lead wagon." No, I preferred him to Flum and I saw there a wagon there so I pushed him past Flum while I finished catching up.

the phrasing of "let me stick my vote there" just felt overly casual for that situation.

you are right though in that you state a preference of bob>donny>flum, switch to bob later, and then you get points for encouraging that flum sounds defeatist and town with 4 minutes left. i remember that having an impact on me.

That's a fair point. I think I did see it as possibly temporary in that by that point I had only read your vote and wasn't sure what the state of the conversation was.

[Jamiet99uk]

My thoughts on Vecna are that the case seems to be that he hasn't done enough, and while I agree, I'm not sure I'm ready to bet on that making him scum quite yet - his activity is picking up at least. No clue about the RHK meta stuff

There's also the observations that I made about Foxcastle, who was formerly in that slot.

[Jamiet99uk]

Why is he asking if he missed anything important when he said he did a catch-up and has barely been away

Zing!

[Jamiet99uk]

Comparing D1 activity to D2, it's interesting how much of a difference there is for some people. Notable ones include Bona (massive drop), Damo (moderate increase), and TFB (moderate decrease).

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	Posts	Words	Chars	W/Post	Player	Last (DL)
1	165	4821	24987	29.22	kgray	00:01
2	134	4333	23227	32.34	Jamiet99uk	00:03
3	132	1799	9578	13.63	Bonatogether	00:01
4	130	1866	9403	14.35	Durga	00:03
5	117	1729	8721	14.78	ghug	00:01
6	115	4725	24257	41.09	TheFlyingBoat	00:05
7	99	2365	12522	23.89	BobMcBob	00:02
8	96	1880	9486	19.58	DeathLlama8	00:01
9	94	3103	15657	33.01	Fluminator	00:01
10	89	2783	14342	31.27	BusinessLamp	00:01
11	78	1626	8007	20.85	Donny Dude	00:02
12	54	970	4892	17.96	Chaqa	00:14
13	40	1292	6600	32.30	DemonRHK	00:01
14	40	1255	6081	31.38	rdrivera2005	00:09
15	38	962	5014	25.32	celaph	00:04
16	36	1369	7198	38.03	Hellenic Riot	00:01
17	32	833	4350	26.03	bozotheclown	00:08
18	27	351	1859	13.00	damo666	02:42
19	20	314	1711	15.70	Vecna	00:49
20	17	1760	11498	103.53	BesharamSabi	00:05
21	17	520	2842	30.59	Foxcastle	07:40
22	8	639	3199	79.88	Maniac	01:03
23	3	459	2324	153.00	Tom Bombadil	05:24
24	3	123	583	41.00	goldfinger0303	1d 11h 59m
25	1	69	346	69.00	peterlund	1d 4h 39m
26	1	9	43	9.00	dargorygel	1d 20h 9m

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Posts	Words	Chars	W/Post	Player	Last (Now)
1	73	1531	7562	20.97	Durga	00:07
2	70	2000	10238	28.57	ghug	00:24
3	67	1900	9886	28.36	kgray	01:20
4	61	1297	6809	21.26	damo666	01:27
5	57	1785	9632	31.32	Jamiet99uk	01:53
6	48	2945	15357	61.35	BobMcBob	04:42
7	44	1142	5713	25.95	Chaqa	00:22
8	42	1344	7154	32.00	Vecna	02:25
9	38	2667	13613	70.18	goldfinger0303	01:05
10	35	1318	6838	37.66	BusinessLamp	02:00
11	30	533	2733	17.77	Bonatogether	02:15
12	28	1232	6564	44.00	celaph	12:38
13	18	662	3464	36.78	bozotheclown	00:40
14	17	2496	12647	146.82	TheFlyingBoat	00:08
15	17	610	3049	35.88	rdrivera2005	00:12
16	15	1713	9398	114.20	Hellenic Riot	02:50
17	12	494	2534	41.17	DemonRHK	12:26
18	9	1021	6450	113.44	BesharamSabi	01:14
19	8	583	3004	72.88	Donny Dude	02:13
20	3	741	3972	247.00	Tom Bombadil	04:18
21	3	638	3341	212.67	Maniac	12:23
695	28652	149958	41.23	Total Counts	

Doesn't Damo's participation usually increase over the course of the game?

(Unless he dies, in which case it tends to decrease rapidly after that event).

[BusinessLamp]

I absolutely CAN accept that he might have been using the phrase "two days ago" as a kind of general, broad brush term for "a while ago"

fwiw this is what i took it as

[kgray]

##vote tfb

[Jamiet99uk]

If damo doesn't take off, I will be consolidating onto Vecna. Jamie had a decent case on Fox and Vecna has done very little.

Reminder that you said this and Damo hasn't taken off.

[Jamiet99uk]

is there a way to iso someone without it being broken into d1 n1 d2

Use the "Game Global Statistics" link on the front page of the Bot.

[ghug]

I should probably consider the implications of the fact that I scumread everyone who's voting with me to some degree.

[BesharamSabi]

VOTE COUNT VERSION 2.09

celaph (5) Hellenic Riot kgray Vecna ghug goldfinger0303
TheFlyingBoat (4) Bonatogether Durga Chaqa celaph
BobMcBob (4) Maniac rdrivera2005 Donny Dude damo666
Vecna (3) Jamiet99uk TheFlyingBoat bozotheclown
damo666 (1) DemonRHK
Unvote (1) BusinessLamp
goldfinger0303 (1) BobMcBob

CELAPH IS SET TO BE EATEN ALIVE BY CATS

EOD IS IN ONE HOUR

Melbourne gave some of its trees email addresses so residents could report problems. Instead, the trees received love letters.

[TheFlyingBoat]

no i don't remember the numbers. he was scum in jamie's multi-mafia alien game and a VT in the mini that ghug ran.

Wait if it's multi that doesn't count much, does it? He basically has an extraordinarily long leash to hunt scum in a townie manner. As for the mini do you remember vaguely when it was so I can search for it myself?

sure it was multi but i'm saying he'll put in effort as scum.

um maybe a year ago? vecna was scum and beat me in kylo the same weekend he ruined my second vFTF ever game

I wasn't saying he wouldn't put in effort when he needs to. I am saying when he's mafia it's easier for him to simply tunnel on easy targets whereas as scum in multi or as town in a normal he has a much larger incentive to do the hard legwork to hunt scum/the other scum. But I'll try to find and look at the vt game later some time tomorrow before the Niners Packers game and see if it matches what we see here.

[Jamiet99uk]

nothing in vecna's iso rang alarm bells for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Did anything in Vecna's iso scream "this guy is town for sure!" or is he just a neutral read for you right now, Christopher?

[Jamiet99uk]

I should probably consider the implications of the fact that I scumread everyone who's voting with me to some degree.

What are you talking about here?

Nobody is voting for you.

Paranoid much?

[DemonRHK]

##Vote Vecna

Consolidation.

[BusinessLamp]

nothing in vecna's iso rang alarm bells for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Did anything in Vecna's iso scream "this guy is town for sure!" or is he just a neutral read for you right now, Christopher?

slight town, highlighted some stuff when Bona asked