M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2881 Post by kgray » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:00 pm

celaph wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:39 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:44 pm
BusinessLamp wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:14 am
i can’t sleep and maybe it is because I have my vote on my dear friend celaph

##unvote
Hey that's my line
Well, you went to sleep with a vote on me so obviously not.
I did not, I’d voted Bob before going to sleep!
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2882 Post by BusinessLamp » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:01 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:00 pm

This is a bannable offense. webDip does not allow external links of any kind. This is your final warning.

-webDip mod
i apologize.

bona!scum trying to get me banned, huh
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2883 Post by celaph » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:03 pm

TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:24 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:05 pm
I've been thinking more about Night 1.

Clearly the DL kill was PR hunting, so presumably my roleblock was as well, but I can't for the life of me figure out why scum would think I was a PR. I'm pretty sure anyone who has played with me enough (Durga, ghug, kgray, Bozo, Bona, lots more) would not think I'm a PR based off of my Day 1, and also would likely want to not give me any quasi-town clear (despite the natural suspicion that a roleblock brings being a competing theory in my head canon) so that I can be miskilled later.

This makes me wonder if the scum team is composed of players who are either new, returning, or semi-regulars.

I'm thinking a team made of players like BusinessLamp, celaph, HR, TFB, Donny, etc.

Not sure if I'm reading too much into it.
Doesn't this theory require that either there are no veteran, active players on the scum team or that the veteran player(s) on the scum team don't overrule the new, returning, or semi-regulars, as you say? I feel like if Durga, ghug, or kgray, or players of that sort were on the scum team, they would assert themselves a little bit more in the discussions of who to role block and who to kill rather than let the less experienced dictate the decision.
Is that not exactly what Chaqa said? Though I think you're getting at why Chaqa's reading too much into it imo.
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2884 Post by Hellenic Riot » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:05 pm

BusinessLamp wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:48 pm
well i played on epicmafia and stuff

how much of my online presence do you all want to know

i started neopets when i was 10...
What was your username on EpicMafia?
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2885 Post by BusinessLamp » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:06 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:05 pm
BusinessLamp wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:48 pm
well i played on epicmafia and stuff

how much of my online presence do you all want to know

i started neopets when i was 10...
What was your username on EpicMafia?
Had a couple, main was Quackerz as well. I almost got a trophy once =0
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2886 Post by Chaqa » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:06 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:00 pm
BusinessLamp wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:38 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:37 pm


gimmie da links
was only hesitant because some sites are weird about linking offsite

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=17182

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=26585
This is a bannable offense. webDip does not allow external links of any kind. This is your final warning.

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That isn’t actually true, right?
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2887 Post by Hellenic Riot » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:07 pm

BusinessLamp wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:06 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:05 pm
BusinessLamp wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:48 pm
well i played on epicmafia and stuff

how much of my online presence do you all want to know

i started neopets when i was 10...
What was your username on EpicMafia?
Had a couple, main was Quackerz as well. I almost got a trophy once =0
There's a small nugget of recollection here. What was your avatar?
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2888 Post by kgray » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:07 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:06 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:00 pm
BusinessLamp wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:38 pm


was only hesitant because some sites are weird about linking offsite

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=17182

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=26585
This is a bannable offense. webDip does not allow external links of any kind. This is your final warning.

-webDip mod
That isn’t actually true, right?
what no lmao
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2889 Post by BusinessLamp » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:08 pm

let me know if anyone wants my SSN
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2890 Post by Chaqa » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:08 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:07 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:06 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:00 pm


This is a bannable offense. webDip does not allow external links of any kind. This is your final warning.

-webDip mod
That isn’t actually true, right?
what no lmao
It was the signature that threw me off lol, usually the “webdip Mod/admin” thing is for official shit only
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2891 Post by Hellenic Riot » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:09 pm

BusinessLamp wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:08 pm
let me know if anyone wants my SSN
Once upon a time, in another lifetime, I used to run that cesspit
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2892 Post by Chaqa » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:09 pm

BusinessLamp wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:08 pm
let me know if anyone wants my SSN
Do you happen to sell fake passports?
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2893 Post by BusinessLamp » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:09 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:07 pm
BusinessLamp wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:06 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:05 pm


What was your username on EpicMafia?
Had a couple, main was Quackerz as well. I almost got a trophy once =0
There's a small nugget of recollection here. What was your avatar?
spike from Rugrats w a blue background. do you want a link?

./s
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2894 Post by kgray » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:11 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:08 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:07 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:06 pm


That isn’t actually true, right?
what no lmao
It was the signature that threw me off lol, usually the “webdip Mod/admin” thing is for official shit only
not you chastising me about mod rules :lol:
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#2895 Post by BusinessLamp » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:12 pm

okay sorry to sidetrack us lets get back to tearing each other apart limb by limb
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#2896 Post by Chaqa » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:12 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:11 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:08 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:07 pm


what no lmao
It was the signature that threw me off lol, usually the “webdip Mod/admin” thing is for official shit only
not you chastising me about mod rules :lol:
I was a mod once!

I don’t think I ever broke the rules 🤔
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2897 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:12 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:55 pm
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:31 pm
ghug wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:23 pm


Did he? I know he switched to Flum claiming wagonomics, which I found odd in itself at the time.

The vote I took the most issue with was RHK's, though now I townread him for other reasons.
Yes, going back to read the wagonomics thing it did seem weird and a bit forced and seemed almost a bit like scum!bona trying to be town!bona but prior in the day he said he would only vote for Ghug, me, Llama, celaph, and Flum, and I think elsewhere he stated I was his favorite wagon.
What about it makes you think it’s scum!bona trying to be town!bona?

kgray wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:57 pm
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:33 pm
Speaking of things I saw when rereading bona, where is the vca you promised? It seems you have been spending a lot of time taking potshots but not a bunch of time making that.
I don’t like this shade attempt. What is scummy about not doing a much of VCA? Why is scum more likely to say they’ll do it and then not do it?

(Buddy bona mode is now activated)
kgray wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:58 pm
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:35 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:33 pm

you've never seen scum!bona, and barely played with town!bona, so idfk what you're talking about

also i have no recollection of ever saying anything like a votepool
Awfully defensive there mate. This is based off of what I've heard of your scum game and your town game by reputation where you try to mimic your normal town weirdness as scum but then just behave in weirder ways which don't seem like you
Explain what’s especially weird about his game that seems scummy to you

Sweet jesus, kgray. Normally you give me more than 4 minutes before hitting me with this level of where's my answer :lol:

What seems scummy to me is how long his meme phase continued on D1, some tonal oddness at EOD with the wagonomics things (though I think ghug is overreacting in part there), lack of D2 analysis beyond some easy potshots and tunnels on easy targets, lack of promised vca.

You asked why scum is less likely to follow through on promises than town? I think it varies on context. I think what makes it make sense here is that in D1, Bona was called out for being very fluffy in terms of posts and more just dropping disses than actually staking original positions. It makes sense for him if he wanted to avoid heat to suggest he would give in-depth analysis later. I think most people would believe that and move on to other targets they would rather see gone and have less faith of future improvement from.

As to why bona wouldn't deliver as scum? If he found it hard to spin a compelling VCA that didn't implicate people he didn't want to bus or if he thought with the pressure off of him he could get away with just tunneling me and celaph and getting away with creating another miskill without having to put in the work of spinning a VCA that he needed to forge to protect those he wanted to protect.

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2898 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:15 pm

BusinessLamp wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:08 pm
let me know if anyone wants my SSN
sure if you could also post your password that would be great. the nice thing about webDip software is that it stars it out for others! So I could post that my password is hunter2 and all you would see is ******* whereas I see hunter2!
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2899 Post by celaph » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:17 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:21 pm
BusinessLamp wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:13 pm
reading TFB the thing that stands out to me is the repeated need to mention "i did my own research on flum, i could've been lazy, but i wasn't!!!"
Now so far, I like Blamp and still think he is slight town, but if it comes late in the game and I am dead and Blamp is around and looking kinda sus, people should come back to this and look to the potential it is the latter option.
this sentence from night post reads as town because of the scenario, but i guess that's pretty easy to fake.

overall his stance on me is a bit sketchy. it reads as like "i know that lamp is towny... but mayyyybeee he isnt? i get that he's townie, but he's also null. we should keep an eye on him."

@TFB how much of your weariness towards me is because i tried to push votes on you at EOD yesterday?
now that blamp is established as experienced, i really dislike this post given the rest of the interaction and boat man's general scumminess
I feel like your read of blamp is rather quickly trending scum and it's not clear why to me. What specifically do you dislike about this post? I think he has correctly identified that TFB is really hesitant in being willing to give him towncred and is asking questions to figure out if TFB is doing so as a misguided towny or as scum. That all is good towny behavior.
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2900 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:18 pm

celaph wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:03 pm
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:24 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:05 pm
I've been thinking more about Night 1.

Clearly the DL kill was PR hunting, so presumably my roleblock was as well, but I can't for the life of me figure out why scum would think I was a PR. I'm pretty sure anyone who has played with me enough (Durga, ghug, kgray, Bozo, Bona, lots more) would not think I'm a PR based off of my Day 1, and also would likely want to not give me any quasi-town clear (despite the natural suspicion that a roleblock brings being a competing theory in my head canon) so that I can be miskilled later.

This makes me wonder if the scum team is composed of players who are either new, returning, or semi-regulars.

I'm thinking a team made of players like BusinessLamp, celaph, HR, TFB, Donny, etc.

Not sure if I'm reading too much into it.
Doesn't this theory require that either there are no veteran, active players on the scum team or that the veteran player(s) on the scum team don't overrule the new, returning, or semi-regulars, as you say? I feel like if Durga, ghug, or kgray, or players of that sort were on the scum team, they would assert themselves a little bit more in the discussions of who to role block and who to kill rather than let the less experienced dictate the decision.
Is that not exactly what Chaqa said? Though I think you're getting at why Chaqa's reading too much into it imo.
I think you misunderstood my point. The odds of there being ZERO veterans on a given scum team are EXCEEDINGLY low. I don't want to do combinatorics again because I just had a long code review at work and I am drained mentally, but yeah, I just don't think Chaqa's argument (neither his assumptions nor conclusions for that matter) makes any sense.
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