M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[kgray]

In a same line as Goldie's earlier comments about you being wishy washy, you haven't been the most confident at times. I still have you as town, but there is a mental note to check back later.

why is lack of confidence a scum indicator

It's not. For kgray specifically, that aspect of her play feels atypical, though not scummy hence why I've left it as a mental note on a townread. I think it might also explains (rdr not with standing) a good deal of the hesitancy around people townreading her.

People hesitant to townread me because I'm trying to figure out this game and therefore changing my mind with new information is not my problem.

[kgray]

D2 Reads List

I didn't read most of this but I don't like it.

[BobMcBob]

@Bob: What have you done, that you think ought to make me mad?

I am a kindly and joyful-hearted individual.

I assigned responsibility to you for flum's death, which is something that at least past Jamie would get mad at easily. Like in that one game I was technically co-gm. Still not sure what to make of the fact that you didn't.

[kgray]

Kgray, why were you so quick to jump off both durga and celaph after apparently resolving to call them out, and why have you completely forgone exposing this change?

Durga seemed okay when we were arguing about stuff. I wanted to pressure you about the RB thing but I'm back on celaph now. I don't know what it means to completely forgo exposing this change.

[BobMcBob]

Kgray, why were you so quick to jump off both durga and celaph after apparently resolving to call them out, and why have you completely forgone exposing this change?

Durga seemed okay when we were arguing about stuff. I wanted to pressure you about the RB thing but I'm back on celaph now. I don't know what it means to completely forgo exposing this change.

I think that last part was probably a casualty of autocorrect, or maybe I'm silly. I probably meant explaining? But you seem to have done that now.

[kgray]

Out of interest, what do you think about Flum's post there?

it literally does not matter, why are you asking her this now?

Why doesn't it matter what Durga thought about Flum's post?

This is a very odd response from Kgray.

As I have stated repeatedly, I didn't think the contents of Flum's reads post particularly mattered. It was more notable to me that he was interacting with lamp about his reads and the overall effort to put his final thoughts out that seemed towny. People (HR and boatman) who are harping on how bad of a reads list it was are missing the point and are trying a bit too hard to prove they were "right" to stay on Flum.

[kgray]

So many people just feel so LAZY in this game.

Bozo, Damo, Maniac in particular.

I don't think bozo feels lazy in this game.

[kgray]

Okay posting 50000 word count reads list instead of engaging with the active thread is kinda scummy especially for someone who's been mia

yes. he also (sort of, weakly) contributed to the RB discussion for some reason

[rdrivera2005]

Sounds like Damo to me.

Idk. I was scum with him twice, I’m not seeing it this game.

I have this same feeling, unless Damo is tryng a totally new scum game, it doesn't look like scum Damo.

Describe scum Damo.

Scum Damo try to look usefull and avoid being too confrontational. Town Damo usually don't give a shit on how he looks (and that's why he is miskilled more then the average).

[Vecna]

kgray, you seem very contrarian from what ive seen so far from you this game. more so than usual.

whats going on?

[kgray]

Well, finally catched up (sort of, speedy reading).

What I got.

Townlean on Gold. I like the push on Chaqa, not sure if Chaqa is scum faking it but Gold arguments seems to have a towny mindset. Chaqa appeal to GM (even not needed) is what I feel might point to town Chaqa.

Bob looks more scummy and Bozo point about him having a ready issue is valid.

##vote Bob

My other scumreads (besides Kgray that I know I won't have any support and hope Cop can sort): tfb and Fox/Vecna.

cop gets lvp if they waste their scan on me

[Jamiet99uk]

During the kgray Durga exchange Jamie appears and starts to complain about it being endless.
I do like that Hr wants to move on with the conversation and move on to other topics.
Jamiet then picks up on Hrs suggestion of Celaph and how hr feels about it.
He then got really angry about not wanting to waste towns need to flip kgray Durga unless they resolve their issues.

I feel like this is quite controlling and a strong reaction from him for a rather short exchange, like I could see scum jamie doing it to disrupt a convo that may lead to negative result like the point of hr.

Jamiet, were you trying to prevent another flum situation with that?

Sorry Donald, I just noticed this question for me.

As a general background, while I admire Durga as a person, I do find that she tends to have strange obsessions with certain people which can colour her interactions with them. It seemed to me at the time I "barged in" that her interaction with Kgray was going round in circles and was partly influenced by the fact that Durga really likes Kgray in real life and wanted her to behave in a manner more in line with the idealised version of Kgray that exists in Durga's mind. To my reading at the time this was becoming a very tedious and unrewarding interaction. However, my patience was thinner than it ought to have been because I'd had three large glasses of Bloody Mary and it was late and I should have gone to bed and not been posting at all.

I certainly wasn't specifically trying to "prevent another Flum situation" as I was not strongly scumreading either Durga or Kgray.

[damo666]

Bob - every post he seems increasingly exasperated, this could be because he's town or caught scum. The 'coincidence' defence doesn't convince. His death would shed light on D1 voting. Scumlean and definite dk candidate.

Bona - usual Bona, difficult to read, null.

bozo - looking like his typical methodical townplay though he can replicate this as scum although he usually does something scummy when scum which he hasn't so townlean.

Blamp - enthusiastic and sounding very towny. Towncore.

celaph - don't remember anything out of the ordinary - null.

Chaqa - thought he was scum but RB claim believable so assuming town.

damo - most handsome townsperson

DemonRHK - playing a rather weak game imo. Used a daft metric for his analysis. Slight scumlean.

Donny - improving though dislike the Joycean type posts. Slight townlean.

Durga - doesn't seem her natural self somhow. Scumlean.

Vecna - I thought Fox was town despite Jamie's case but Vecna hasn't done much but I assume he is busy irl so null.

ghug - was strongly townreading him but waning a tad. Hasn't displayed a scumtell. Townlean but not quite towncore anymore.

goldfinger - seems very town to me.

HR - intelligent posts strongly smelling of town. Towncore.

Jamie - screams town. Towncore.

kgray - clear Towncore (but could be faking though I doubt that sufficiently for her to remain Towncore)

Maniac - most handsome scum (he can't be town - see me). Seriously, slight scumlean but it is Maniac!

rdrivera - playing his usual solid town game. Towncore.

TheFlyingboat - keep changing my mind so null.

Current best guess at scum team is: Bob demonRHK durga Maniac plus one of the nulls, I'll guess at Bona.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Bob: What have you done, that you think ought to make me mad?

I am a kindly and joyful-hearted individual.

I assigned responsibility to you for flum's death, which is something that at least past Jamie would get mad at easily. Like in that one game I was technically co-gm. Still not sure what to make of the fact that you didn't.

But it was partly my responsibility, and you were entirely entitled to say that.

Flum should refrain from doing idiotic things that make people scumread him, but my scumread was still wrong.

[kgray]

odds chaqa is trolling are high

ghug retracted and chaqa seemed to indicate some degree of serious mod conversation

This is the first thing you find important enough to comment on?

It was also the only thing you found important enough to comment on. That's weird.

[Jamiet99uk]

Damo uses the word "but" a lot, doesn't he?

[Vecna]

did fox do anything weird before replacing out btw?

[Vecna]

should probably read up on at least that

[kgray]

Well, finally catched up (sort of, speedy reading).

What I got.

Townlean on Gold. I like the push on Chaqa, not sure if Chaqa is scum faking it but Gold arguments seems to have a towny mindset. Chaqa appeal to GM (even not needed) is what I feel might point to town Chaqa.

Bob looks more scummy and Bozo point about him having a ready issue is valid.

##vote Bob

My other scumreads (besides Kgray that I know I won't have any support and hope Cop can sort): tfb and Fox/Vecna.

All we need now is Demon to scumread me and we can have a lurker party! Rdr would you like to present a better case against me or are you just going to piggyback off of bozo's already pathetic pedantry? Do you have a response to my response to it?

You look like a scum that are really upset you get caught on the wrong thing. And attacking the people voting you is not the best way to go.

Your answer to Bozo is that was pure coincidence you wrote that exact games, which can't be proven true or false.

Okay but Rivera scolding Bob for OMGUSing is hilarious

[kgray]

Well, finally catched up (sort of, speedy reading).

What I got.

Townlean on Gold. I like the push on Chaqa, not sure if Chaqa is scum faking it but Gold arguments seems to have a towny mindset. Chaqa appeal to GM (even not needed) is what I feel might point to town Chaqa.

Bob looks more scummy and Bozo point about him having a ready issue is valid.

##vote Bob

My other scumreads (besides Kgray that I know I won't have any support and hope Cop can sort): tfb and Fox/Vecna.

All we need now is Demon to scumread me and we can have a lurker party! Rdr would you like to present a better case against me or are you just going to piggyback off of bozo's already pathetic pedantry? Do you have a response to my response to it?

You look like a scum that are really upset you get caught on the wrong thing. And attacking the people voting you is not the best way to go.

Your answer to Bozo is that was pure coincidence you wrote that exact games, which can't be proven true or false.

Okay but Rivera scolding Bob for OMGUSing is hilarious