M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#3501 Post by BusinessLamp » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:16 pm

kgray wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:55 pm
BusinessLamp wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:49 am
im lowkey losing faith in kgray because that post about "all the wagons have been stagnant except TFB" keep sticking out in my brain but i'll ignore that til tomorrow
The what now? Where I said D2 felt too stagnant for my liking?
yeah the combo of you asking for a flash wagon and when I doubted it saying wagons were too stagnant for you to support w exception of tfb

(haven’t doubled checked contents, going by memory)
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#3502 Post by BobMcBob » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:29 pm

Durga does very little of note D1. Kinda tries to save flum but I agree with what's been said already, not that hard. Scumreads RHK, is okay with a TFB vote, ends the day voting me after being open to it most of the day. Lack of content is a problem most people had D1, so eh.

N1 defends her weak defense of flum more strongly than she defended flum. Mostly gets annoyed at kgray.

Starts D2 by backing her Demon scumread. Catches onto bozo being town very early and confidently. Votes celaph for being scummy. Generally gets annoyed at people and makes fun of them. Points out celaph not addressing the votes on him. Votes Demon, no extra reasons stated. Decides celaph would be unlikely to admit being wary of buddying as scum. Fights with Jamie a bit. Votes TFB. Asks if celaph ever responded to the two points on him she mentioned earlier (ignoring scumreads/buddying wary). Joins the Jamie train! Leaves for TFB.

States surprise at celaph's flip, and then floats the idea of SvS. Claims to have been pushing TFB all of D2 which, spoiler alert, is absolutely false. She barely mentioned him outside her votes for him.

Celaph mentions durga very little, and not in ways that seem to mean anything.

I would say that durga has absolutely not been very proactive this game. Very few ideas, pushes or scumreads anywhere. I don't think I know what durga normally plays like, but I doubt this is it. It's primarily filler arguments and jokes and next to nothing else. Plus bad voting yesterday, especially when she pointed out the problems with celaph and completely ignored them. So I could definitely see a scum being here, but most of the confidence of my scumread here comes from the fact that other people think she looks awful. But I'd say a solid candidate for scum.

Checks watch

Oh well, I guess I'll just be short on sleep then. Only took me 45 minutes for... whatever this is.
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#3503 Post by BobMcBob » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:32 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:53 pm
I would guess most if not all celaph voters are town. Most likely busser would be Vecna.

Celaph's vote probably indicates TFB is town. I expect at least 3 scum on TFB. Very much doubt Blamp is scum though. HR looks horrible but does he do all that analysis as scum? Possible ofc but highly doubtful imo.

I am therefore willing to vote any of Bona kgray Bob Durga.

##vote Durga
I think it's a bit strong to townread HR just on the length of his analysis. He probably does that as scum too. "Easy" way to get cred.
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#3504 Post by BusinessLamp » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:41 pm

TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:51 am
If I die here, don't let Bona, Durga, or Celaph wash their hands of this and say "oh, TFB was so scummy looking, he had to die, how could we know he was town." Push them hard on their analysis constantly.
tfb why these three
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#3505 Post by BusinessLamp » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:43 pm

BusinessLamp wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:41 pm
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:51 am
If I die here, don't let Bona, Durga, or Celaph wash their hands of this and say "oh, TFB was so scummy looking, he had to die, how could we know he was town." Push them hard on their analysis constantly.
tfb why these three
Oh they were three of your six scumreads nvm
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#3506 Post by BusinessLamp » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:46 pm

kgray wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:57 am
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:56 am
Resistance to celaph wagon seems scum motivated, ergo celaph scum
me and lamp and bona are the resistance!!!!!!
this post makes me laugh and I really hope we were all just very wrong
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#3507 Post by BusinessLamp » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:49 pm

Durga wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:59 am
IS IT TIED??
why post this and not do your best to resolve it
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#3508 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:49 pm

The Durga wagon is enticing but I want Vecna to be under some pressure when he finally appears again.
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#3509 Post by BusinessLamp » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:51 pm

DemonRHK wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:31 am
kgray wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:29 am
i kinda want to flash someone but idk who
damo? rdr?
this is bad
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#3510 Post by Durga » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:56 pm

BusinessLamp wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:49 pm
Durga wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:59 am
IS IT TIED??
why post this and not do your best to resolve it
Resolve what? Move and then tie it myself accidentally?
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#3511 Post by kgray » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:02 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:57 pm
Looking at D1 now Bob is probably town.

Scumteam Bona kgray Durga and either Vecna/HR or maybe gold
That’s stupid damo, in what world do I start scumreading two of my teammates on N1 when neither have much pressure? And scumbuddies don’t do what bona and I did for a third teammate. And it’s even more ridiculous to think HR and Durga joined me on celaph. No scum team destroys itself like that.
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#3512 Post by kgray » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:06 pm

BusinessLamp wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:16 pm
kgray wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:55 pm
BusinessLamp wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:49 am
im lowkey losing faith in kgray because that post about "all the wagons have been stagnant except TFB" keep sticking out in my brain but i'll ignore that til tomorrow
The what now? Where I said D2 felt too stagnant for my liking?
yeah the combo of you asking for a flash wagon and when I doubted it saying wagons were too stagnant for you to support w exception of tfb

(haven’t doubled checked contents, going by memory)
Okay fair. I felt like the day was pretty dead which made me think we didn’t have scum wagons, but maybe there were more subtle counterwagons to celaph, like Bob who I just wasn’t focusing on it much because I didn’t really get it. Which does actually make it seem more like a scum-pushed counterwagon, actually.
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#3513 Post by damo666 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:31 pm

BobMcBob wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:32 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:53 pm
I would guess most if not all celaph voters are town. Most likely busser would be Vecna.

Celaph's vote probably indicates TFB is town. I expect at least 3 scum on TFB. Very much doubt Blamp is scum though. HR looks horrible but does he do all that analysis as scum? Possible ofc but highly doubtful imo.

I am therefore willing to vote any of Bona kgray Bob Durga.

##vote Durga
I think it's a bit strong to townread HR just on the length of his analysis. He probably does that as scum too. "Easy" way to get cred.
Yes, I haven't given him a pass.
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#3514 Post by damo666 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:56 pm

kgray wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:02 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:57 pm
Looking at D1 now Bob is probably town.

Scumteam Bona kgray Durga and either Vecna/HR or maybe gold
That’s stupid damo, in what world do I start scumreading two of my teammates on N1 when neither have much pressure? And scumbuddies don’t do what bona and I did for a third teammate. And it’s even more ridiculous to think HR and Durga joined me on celaph. No scum team destroys itself like that.
Hmmm. I'll have a rethink.
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#3515 Post by Chaqa » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:59 pm

##Vote Hellenic Riot

HR vs Durga is the best timeline
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#3516 Post by goldfinger0303 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:20 pm

Maniac wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:07 am
@goldfinger - if you agree with me that HR is scum then why did you leave his wagon? It always raises alarm bells with me when people say one thing and do another in real life and in game.
Maniac, it was about 6 hours into a new day, and I was driving a point home about joke voting. At end of day I will always have my votes lined up with where my scum reads are. If I see people start hammering, I'll change it up.
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#3517 Post by ghug » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:25 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:46 am
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:14 am

No, goldie. You don't get to say you only voted celaph as a joke when you clearly indicated otherwise at the time. What changed from him being someone you didn't feel that strongly about to someone you really wanted people to stay off, in the space of ten minutes? Vecna's utterly irrelevant to this, regardless of his alignment.
Okay, HR, let's test your British sense of humor then. Here's my shameless buddying of ghug all throughout the day, up until the point where I left him to land on my actual main scumread that was a wagon at the time. Emphasis is added.
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:03 am
ghug wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:01 am
Yeah, maybe gold is scum.
And here I was going to create a shrine to you in my remodeled closet, Helga Pataki style.
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:21 am
celaph wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:26 am

More seriously, I had been a little self conscious about buddying ever since Bob commented on it early.
Why would you care about someone pointing out you buddying? I'm shamelessly buddying ghug, and have been doing so from the beginning.

P.S. - ghug plz love me
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:29 am

But let's get a wagon going for ghuggles that he'd like more than the existing ones (although ghug you do realize your top scum read is a legit wagon right now?)

##vote HR
The only time I mentioned celaph's wagon in seriousness, I stated I had no strong opinions on it.
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:44 am
Yes, I am here.

I'm fine with ##vote demon to see where that leads us. I dislike that so much of this phase has revolved around Bob, and clearly Damo doesn't garner enough interest. But my thoughts on damo haven't changed - especially since they answered everyone else's questions and ignored mine.

The celaph wagon I honestly don't know enough about to put an opinion on. They seem to be okay-ish so far to me? But I can't recollect ever playing with them. Frankly their contributions D2 have been better than boat's in my fresh eyes.

HR and ghug - you're absolutely right, I have soft-gloated before like that as scum. Good catch (wow, I have a meta!). But I'm genuinely just hunting for anyone else who made offhand remarks about DL yesterday.
So when I logged off, I said I preferred Bob or TFB (one I was voting and highly scumread, the other I had remarked was doing scummy things that day) vs. celaph (who I said I was null on) and Vecna (who I slightly defended). Celaph was trying to pocket me with town reads of me, and to an extent they succeeded. I was aware of it (and posted as much in a response to Bob), but clearly didn't put enough thought into it.
Goldie, I will note that the second to last post quoted here was about celaph.
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#3518 Post by Bonatogether » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:26 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:59 am
Donny Dude wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:56 am
I find it interesting that maniac has voted for hr after the hr push on goldfinger and switching from bob.
Maniac is being super low effort this game, but I think his flip onto HR and reasoning behind it is good. HR's push on me is also really forced (and I have suspicions on bona's sudden scum lean of me, after I said during the night they were on my scum radar)

My problem is most reference games I can remember for Maniac, they were either town PR or killed early on, so I don't have too much to go off of meta-wise. But at Chaqa would say, I'm getting decent vibes from them thus far.
imma be honest my guy i don't read your posts very closely, most seem like bullshit
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#3519 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:29 pm

BusinessLamp wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:51 pm
DemonRHK wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:31 am
kgray wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:29 am
i kinda want to flash someone but idk who
damo? rdr?
this is bad
Hmm. Let's review DemonRHK's reads.

I notice that DemonRHK had previously named Damo as his top scumread, and tried to get a wagon going on Damo earlier in the day. Therefore suggesting a flashwagon on Damo is in keeping with his previously stated read.

However, prior to the post quoted above, the last reference to Rdrivera by DemonRHK listed Rdrivera as a null read.

@DemonRHK: Why did you propose a flashwagon on Rdrivera, when you previously hadn't named Rdrivera as a scumread?
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#3520 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:31 pm

BusinessLamp wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:14 pm
tfb why leave me out of the paragraph about bona/kgray being vocal supporters for your vote? I was screaming from the rooftops lmao
Entirely honest? I viewed your arguments as less impactful/contributory to the issue. Perhaps I shouldn't
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