M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[bozotheclown]

I cannot believe this is the crux of your scum!donny read.

I believe votes are a good place to look scum motivation. After reviewing the 98 votes placed D1, ghug's votes for rdrivera and Fluminator were 2 of the most suspicious.

Do you not agree with the assessment I made at the time I voted Fluminator that further vote switches were unlikely to change the outcome?

Not necessarily, you making the vote 10-4 instead of 9-5 might have discouraged switches off of Fluminator, and if the votes for TFB had gone to Bob, Bob could have been DKed.

[bozotheclown]

I have never said he tried to pocket you, you'll not in my wall post that I made it very clear that I was incorrect about him defending you. And it's not true that your Flum reactions were similar, they were the opposite. He explicitly said Flum was scummy and didn't vote for him (until the very end). You explicitly said Flum was towny and did vote for him.

I voted for Fluminator after rdrivera, and I had doubts about Fluminator the way things developed.

Wait can you explain this - did you think he was similar to the last game?

Yes, I think there were some similarities.

[ghug]

I believe votes are a good place to look scum motivation. After reviewing the 98 votes placed D1, ghug's votes for rdrivera and Fluminator were 2 of the most suspicious.

Do you not agree with the assessment I made at the time I voted Fluminator that further vote switches were unlikely to change the outcome?

Not necessarily, you making the vote 10-4 instead of 9-5 might have discouraged switches off of Fluminator, and if the votes for TFB had gone to Bob, Bob could have been DKed.

We'd gone seven minutes with no movement except for Bona's switch to a non-wagon and we only had a minute left.

[Durga]

y'all i got the booster today and my arm is already dying. pray for me

Good luck
Today has been the 1st day I have felt like a normal human being after two weeks of covid.

thx donny. also can you pls explain why you specifically voted me instead of ghug and kgray last day?

[Vecna]

have you missed me the last few games ghug?

[ghug]

have you missed me the last few games ghug?

Of course.

[bozotheclown]

if you believe that donny was calculating to maximize his chances of survival at EOD, then surely he could've just found a lurker or someone locked onto the flum wagon rather than antagonize all members of his existing wagon by randomly picking one of them to vote

He could also have not been properly following the thread

I don't think bozo's considering that in his scumread

I am fairly confident that Donny was following the thread regardless of his alignment. Town have motivation to not get mis-killed, so taking action to avoid the DK is not complete scum indicative, but I don't think Durga became Donny's top scum read based on her vote.

[Vecna]

should i read that as sarcasm or as a hot steamy attempt at buddying?

[ghug]

should i read that as sarcasm or as a hot steamy attempt at buddying?

Honesty?

I guess you could call it a blatant attempt at buddying too, but that's kinda cynical.

[Vecna]

aaaaaaaw

thats so shweet

[bozotheclown]

I cannot believe this is the crux of your scum!donny read.

I believe votes are a good place to look scum motivation. After reviewing the 98 votes placed D1, ghug's votes for rdrivera and Fluminator were 2 of the most suspicious.

why would you count LOL

I did not count, but my methodology for processing all of the votes produced the number.

[bozotheclown]

I cannot believe this is the crux of your scum!donny read.

I believe votes are a good place to look scum motivation. After reviewing the 98 votes placed D1, ghug's votes for rdrivera and Fluminator were 2 of the most suspicious.

why would you count LOL

I did not count, but my methodology for processing all of the votes produced the number.

[bozotheclown]

Sorry for the double post, I am not sure why that happened.

[BobMcBob]

I was not recapping the case, I was recapping the sequence of events, just for the record.

Your opinion of the Flum wagon (and indeed, everyone's opinion of it) is a useful conversation topic, however.

Here are the eight people that ended up on Flum:

Jamiet99uk
TheFlyingBoat
damo666
Chaqa
Hellenic Riot
rdrivera2005
bozotheclown
ghug

I think there are likely to be three categories of person on that list:

1. People who are town and who genuinely agreed with my case on Flum.

2. People who, in your words "blindly jumped on", implying that they are foolish town rather than scheming scumbos.

3. People who are scum, knew that I was wrong, and who felt it convenient to use my push on Flum to ensure a D1 miskill that could then be blamed on me.


How would you categorise each of the people on the Flum wagon, Bob?

Well that's a very broad question that requires too much research to be worth my time for a very questionably effective categorisation. But based off vibes:
Jamie - 1
TFB - 1
Damo - 3
Chaqa - 2 or 3, he should know better
HR - 1
Rdr - 1
Ghug - 1 or 3, he should also know better
Bozo - 1

Now I should make it clear that I don't like the way this is phrased. I think most of the town on the wagon probably genuinely thought he was scum, but also genuinely suck at reading flum's antics, making them also " foolish". I'm most suspicious (other than you) of people who I would expect might've learned by now.

It's fascinating to me that anyone could think I scumread Flum. 3, fine, but how do you possibly get 1?

Because you suck? If you're not scum and didn't think he was scum, why did you vote him. I assume to shut Jamie up?

[Durga]

Either bob hasn't bothered reading anything or he's deliberating misleading idk but i hate it

[BobMcBob]

Either bob hasn't bothered reading anything or he's deliberating misleading idk but i hate it

Either that or I forgot when I went to sleep for 8 hours. You see all the posts I've +1ed? I have read every single one of them. So if I've missed something it's not due to me being lazy as you and HR apparently keep trying to propagate.

[ghug]

Well that's a very broad question that requires too much research to be worth my time for a very questionably effective categorisation. But based off vibes:
Jamie - 1
TFB - 1
Damo - 3
Chaqa - 2 or 3, he should know better
HR - 1
Rdr - 1
Ghug - 1 or 3, he should also know better
Bozo - 1

Now I should make it clear that I don't like the way this is phrased. I think most of the town on the wagon probably genuinely thought he was scum, but also genuinely suck at reading flum's antics, making them also " foolish". I'm most suspicious (other than you) of people who I would expect might've learned by now.

It's fascinating to me that anyone could think I scumread Flum. 3, fine, but how do you possibly get 1?

Because you suck? If you're not scum and didn't think he was scum, why did you vote him. I assume to shut Jamie up?

Seems Bob is still grumpy.

[ghug]

Hi aaro

[Durga]

Either bob hasn't bothered reading anything or he's deliberating misleading idk but i hate it

Either that or I forgot when I went to sleep for 8 hours. You see all the posts I've +1ed? I have read every single one of them. So if I've missed something it's not due to me being lazy as you and HR apparently keep trying to propagate.

Okay but I feel like ghug has stated why he voted flum at least twice

[kgray]

I cannot believe this is the crux of your scum!donny read.

I believe votes are a good place to look scum motivation. After reviewing the 98 votes placed D1, ghug's votes for rdrivera and Fluminator were 2 of the most suspicious.

Do you not agree with the assessment I made at the time I voted Fluminator that further vote switches were unlikely to change the outcome?

Pretty shitty to vote for Flum based on a joke even if you thought it was unlikely to change the outcome. I voted bob even though I thought it was unlikely to matter.