M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[TheFlyingBoat]

This is my trust tell. (It's banned on mafiascum but not on webdip yet)
If you look at my two scum games on this site I never once posted I was town, while I regularly do in my town games.

Therefore, I activated my trust tell that I'm town and you can put me in as a lock.

Bozo gets it.

This is the post in question for those who care. Why Flum didn't directly just link to it is whatever

Like seriously just compare these two posts

[kgray]

Any claims of a trust tell seem bogus.

Okay then what do you think about bozo claiming to know what Flum was hinting at? Bozo, fact-checker extraordinaire, who didn't recall his own teammate from last game saying he was town?

This push onto Flum seems even more opportunistic than your jump onto Fox and I don't believe you're really thinking that much about it. It seems like you're trying to ride Jamie's enthusiasm to get a counterwagon going to save yourself.

As for the bozo thing, god knows. Maybe he misremembered what the actual trust tell was but did remember that Flum did declare a trust tell (bozo was in m61 so he would have seen it) and thought that was it.

Does this sound like the bozo you know?

[TheFlyingBoat]

I'm going to start a trust tell.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Trust_Tell

Every time I say
"I am not scum and will buy you a pizza if I am" I am confirmed town.

I am not scum and will buy you a pizza if I am
(This might not be true in a few hours)

Fuck hit shift enter. Compare this one to my quote of Fluminator directly above it

[TheFlyingBoat]

Okay then what do you think about bozo claiming to know what Flum was hinting at? Bozo, fact-checker extraordinaire, who didn't recall his own teammate from last game saying he was town?

This push onto Flum seems even more opportunistic than your jump onto Fox and I don't believe you're really thinking that much about it. It seems like you're trying to ride Jamie's enthusiasm to get a counterwagon going to save yourself.

As for the bozo thing, god knows. Maybe he misremembered what the actual trust tell was but did remember that Flum did declare a trust tell (bozo was in m61 so he would have seen it) and thought that was it.

Does this sound like the bozo you know?

Bozo making a mistake? Humans are fallible. I also haven't played with bozo nearly enough for his fact checking capabilities to have the same cachet with me that it does with you (though I will keep that you think that bozo's fact checking skills reach that level in the back of my head for the future)

[Fluminator]

Flyingboat, this is perfectly in character for town Jamiet to get hung up on "kill all liars", but I kind of expected some deeper analysis from you ngl. lol

[Jamiet99uk]

I would like to point out that my post about trust tells was my post after this one.
You're welcome.

Nice try.

Eight hours elapsed between those two posts. You're making it seem they were straight after each other. You then carried on for several pages talking about your "trust tell", insisting it wasn't a reaction test, and shouting at Chaqa for voting you, accusing him of being scum. That was all the way up to page 37, well after the joke phase.

So from your point of view, you think scum me was hoping no one would verify something that everyone has easy access to (in a game including players like bozo) so I could ride that wave to end in an easy scum victory?

From my point of view it's very interesting that your argument totally changed from attempting to revise your original claim, to now saying you were just trolling, right after Chaqa took his vote off you and said he thought you were just trolling.

[ghug]

you state things some of the others have done earlier but like celaph's posted as well

i lied i did look into it further even though it's 1am

not to be too focused on the stuff about me, but rdi's reactions of doubting me at first and then seemingly coming around strike me as more genuine than celaph just slight town-reading me. if a potential route as mafia is about blending in and making non-controversial posts so as to not draw attention, i feel like celaph is moreso doing that.

which is also kind of why i townread bona decently strongly. the easy thing to do as scum is to just support/back the likeable new guy. him going against the grain a bit with that is a harder sell to make, so it feels more genuine.

I really like this post. The comment about Bona is exactly what I am feeling about him.

And no, I am not buddying anyone.

Have you met Bona?

[Chaqa]

Please explain how this helps town to catch scum.

It's Day 1, he's gotten us debating over stuff. It's given some people (including me) a pretty good town read on you, so I would say he's helped a lot, actually.

Actually you can tell that I'm town because I said "Hello" in my first post. That's my trust tell. I would only do that in this game if I was town.

I guess it's the equivalent of my "I swear on Chipotle' thing.

I can see why mafiascum banned it now, it's powerful

[TheFlyingBoat]

Flyingboat, this is perfectly in character for town Jamiet to get hung up on "kill all liars", but I kind of expected some deeper analysis from you ngl. lol

I mean you kinda staked your entire credibility on the trust tell. This is very different from the kill all liars argument of jamie's that I have rejected in the past before.

[Jamiet99uk]

Okay then what do you think about bozo claiming to know what Flum was hinting at? Bozo, fact-checker extraordinaire, who didn't recall his own teammate from last game saying he was town?

This push onto Flum seems even more opportunistic than your jump onto Fox and I don't believe you're really thinking that much about it. It seems like you're trying to ride Jamie's enthusiasm to get a counterwagon going to save yourself.

As for the bozo thing, god knows. Maybe he misremembered what the actual trust tell was but did remember that Flum did declare a trust tell (bozo was in m61 so he would have seen it) and thought that was it.

Does this sound like the bozo you know?

Note also that Fluminator lowkey buddied Bozo in the post where he talked about his trust tell.

[ghug]

I'd actually be fine daykilling RHK as well. The no vote + fake data nonsense feels like he wants to contribute but doesn't know how to

I'm torn between this and the data thing being too lame to be fake.

[Fluminator]

Nice try.

Eight hours elapsed between those two posts. You're making it seem they were straight after each other. You then carried on for several pages talking about your "trust tell", insisting it wasn't a reaction test, and shouting at Chaqa for voting you, accusing him of being scum. That was all the way up to page 37, well after the joke phase.

So from your point of view, you think scum me was hoping no one would verify something that everyone has easy access to (in a game including players like bozo) so I could ride that wave to end in an easy scum victory?

From my point of view it's very interesting that your argument totally changed from attempting to revise your original claim, to now saying you were just trolling, right after Chaqa took his vote off you and said he thought you were just trolling.

I don't consider what I did was trolling there.

[Jamiet99uk]

It's Day 1, he's gotten us debating over stuff. It's given some people (including me) a pretty good town read on you, so I would say he's helped a lot, actually.

Actually you can tell that I'm town because I said "Hello" in my first post. That's my trust tell. I would only do that in this game if I was town.

I guess it's the equivalent of my "I swear on Chipotle' thing.

I can see why mafiascum banned it now, it's powerful

Be careful Chaqa.

If you say "Chipotle" three times, a ravenous EMC will appear.

[TheFlyingBoat]

It's Day 1, he's gotten us debating over stuff. It's given some people (including me) a pretty good town read on you, so I would say he's helped a lot, actually.

Actually you can tell that I'm town because I said "Hello" in my first post. That's my trust tell. I would only do that in this game if I was town.

I guess it's the equivalent of my "I swear on Chipotle' thing.

I can see why mafiascum banned it now, it's powerful

I mean not only is it stupid it also just makes for low-quality bad games where you have a bunch out out of game nonsense and then these types of argument which suck all the air out of the room for hours at a time.

[Chaqa]

Bozo / Flum/ Durga / celaph are my PoE for today.

Kgray and Bona and Jamie are very town

[Jamiet99uk]

So from your point of view, you think scum me was hoping no one would verify something that everyone has easy access to (in a game including players like bozo) so I could ride that wave to end in an easy scum victory?

From my point of view it's very interesting that your argument totally changed from attempting to revise your original claim, to now saying you were just trolling, right after Chaqa took his vote off you and said he thought you were just trolling.

I don't consider what I did was trolling there.

Oh?

Then what was your point in quoting that earlier post about the joke phase?

[kgray]

Nice try.

Eight hours elapsed between those two posts. You're making it seem they were straight after each other. You then carried on for several pages talking about your "trust tell", insisting it wasn't a reaction test, and shouting at Chaqa for voting you, accusing him of being scum. That was all the way up to page 37, well after the joke phase.

So from your point of view, you think scum me was hoping no one would verify something that everyone has easy access to (in a game including players like bozo) so I could ride that wave to end in an easy scum victory?

From my point of view it's very interesting that your argument totally changed from attempting to revise your original claim, to now saying you were just trolling, right after Chaqa took his vote off you and said he thought you were just trolling.

fwiw I think this is the most convincing part of this Flum case I've seen thus far.

[kgray]

So from your point of view, you think scum me was hoping no one would verify something that everyone has easy access to (in a game including players like bozo) so I could ride that wave to end in an easy scum victory?

From my point of view it's very interesting that your argument totally changed from attempting to revise your original claim, to now saying you were just trolling, right after Chaqa took his vote off you and said he thought you were just trolling.

I don't consider what I did was trolling there.

omg Flum. If you're trolling now you need to say so, please

[Chaqa]

Maniac, HR, and goldie should probably be considered as well.

[Jamiet99uk]

At this point if Flum is town he is actively distracting the rest of town from finding scum.