M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#521 Post by BesharamSabi » Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:46 am

VOTE COUNT VERSION 1.05

Last one from me for the day! Send your thoughts for god's chat to me!

DeathLlama8: (4) damo666*, Jamiet99uk, bozotheclown Durga
Durga: (3) TheFlyingBoat, Fluminator , BobMcBob
BobMcBob: (1) DeathLlama8
Bonatogether: (1) ghug
BozotheClown: (1) Chaqa
Chaqa: (1) Bonatogether
damo666: (1) Donny Dude
ghug : (1) BusinessLamp
Hellenic Riot: (1) goldfinger0303
No‑Kill: (1) DemonRHK

Non-votes: celaph, Foxcastle, Hellenic Riot, kgray, Maniac, rdrivera2005

AT THE MOENT DEADLY LLAMA BOY IS SET TO BE PEW PEWED

EOD IS IN 21 HOURS AND 15 MINUTES

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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#522 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:53 am

BusinessLamp wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:22 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:54 am
BusinessLamp wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:47 am


yeah this is definitely a bad idea. For one, Durga and I mostly communicate over voice calls and have never been in a game environment together, so the mode of communication does not lend itself for me to have any more knowledge than others. Also, I have no idea how good at this in general I am lmao. No idea how solid my reads will be or if I'll be way way off.

not to mention, while i appreciate the trust, using anyone else as an indicator feels like it would just be a way to scapegoat/transfer blame to that person later on.
blamp, this is a stupid take

also the sudden jump to talk formally from not even capitalizing makes me kinda scumread you cause i do that sometimes when i'm lying. also you go back to not capitalizing like a nerd next paragraph
i actually noticed the difference in capitalization as i was doing it. i think its more of like a "I want to be taken seriously" thing
i dislike this post
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#523 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:53 am

trying to decide if i scumread blamp
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#524 Post by BusinessLamp » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:01 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:53 am
BusinessLamp wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:22 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:54 am


blamp, this is a stupid take

also the sudden jump to talk formally from not even capitalizing makes me kinda scumread you cause i do that sometimes when i'm lying. also you go back to not capitalizing like a nerd next paragraph
i actually noticed the difference in capitalization as i was doing it. i think its more of like a "I want to be taken seriously" thing
i dislike this post
you can see i do the same thing in my response to flum's gambit. it's just when i feel more confident in what i'm saying being thought out (which rip you immediately calling it stupid lmao)
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#525 Post by Fluminator » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:02 am

Don't bully the new guy bona.
All new players get one free day
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#526 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:04 am

kgray wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:23 am
Chaqa wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:56 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:29 pm


i forgot
Bona is town and I will literally die on this hill
I thought that was towny from bona too, but last time we were scum together you white knighted bona in a similar way (which was very annoying, as I was trying to get him miskilled). I don't recall you ever doing that as town.
There’s at least two town games of mine where I did this, but I don’t know the numbers off the top of my head.
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#527 Post by DemonRHK » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:06 am

BusinessLamp wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:08 am
Fluminator wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:07 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:25 pm


Bob and TFB seem to be trying to generate discussion. I get the feeling Foxcastle was looking for reactions with his one longer post. Fluminator said he was town.
This is my trust tell. (It's banned on mafiascum but not on webdip yet)
If you look at my two scum games on this site I never once posted I was town, while I regularly do in my town games.

Therefore, I activated my trust tell that I'm town and you can put me in as a lock.

Bozo gets it.
this is interesting. it's setting something up that you can only use until your next scum game, especially now that you've articulated it this extensively. so this is probably the last time you can effectively use it as town. Alternatively, this game is the game that you deem important enough to wreck the streak with (potentially because your good pal BusinessLamp is playing, and because this game has been said to have an impressive player list). I don't think that's the case though-- this feels like the town-motivated culmination of this setup. You need to get the good payoff once and then also get the scum payoff for maximum utilization.

+5 town points for you Flum, full faith.
I don't like this post. In the current gamestate it's not inherently scummy, but a newer player that has emphasized trying to be careful in posting taking a blind leap of faith on a play that only has a solid payoff in limited and mostly scum motivated instances feel wrong.
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#528 Post by DemonRHK » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:06 am

Fluminator wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:02 am
Don't bully the new guy bona.
All new players get one free day
That's a goddamned lie.
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#529 Post by BusinessLamp » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:08 am

some things i am wondering:

what is "god's chat"?

how the heck do you read the vote tracker on the bot? is this a useful tool? probably not til there's a reveal i guess

how do you/can you isolate someone's posts

also just the adjustment to voting someone out 20 hours from now seems so fast-paced. very curious to see how that pressure to make a decision with such little info affects things. right now i'm team vote someone out who i have next to no read on because of little activity, but need to figure out how to isolate people's posts before starting to make that decision

thank you to those who answered my questions prior btw
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#530 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:08 am

##Vote Flum
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#531 Post by BusinessLamp » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:13 am

update: i have figured out how to iso
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#532 Post by DeathLlama8 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:13 am

BusinessLamp wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:08 am
some things i am wondering:

what is "god's chat"?
all the spectators and dead people gather on discord to make fun of us for fucking up and not finding scum
how the heck do you read the vote tracker on the bot? is this a useful tool? probably not til there's a reveal i guess
it's helpful for analyzing EOD since a bunch of people will jump around then
how do you/can you isolate someone's posts
go underneath the vote tracker on the bot, click on the link with their name, now you have a list of all their posts. it is not that helpful d1
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#533 Post by BusinessLamp » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:14 am

DemonRHK wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:06 am
BusinessLamp wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:08 am
Fluminator wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:07 pm


This is my trust tell. (It's banned on mafiascum but not on webdip yet)
If you look at my two scum games on this site I never once posted I was town, while I regularly do in my town games.

Therefore, I activated my trust tell that I'm town and you can put me in as a lock.

Bozo gets it.
this is interesting. it's setting something up that you can only use until your next scum game, especially now that you've articulated it this extensively. so this is probably the last time you can effectively use it as town. Alternatively, this game is the game that you deem important enough to wreck the streak with (potentially because your good pal BusinessLamp is playing, and because this game has been said to have an impressive player list). I don't think that's the case though-- this feels like the town-motivated culmination of this setup. You need to get the good payoff once and then also get the scum payoff for maximum utilization.

+5 town points for you Flum, full faith.
I don't like this post. In the current gamestate it's not inherently scummy, but a newer player that has emphasized trying to be careful in posting taking a blind leap of faith on a play that only has a solid payoff in limited and mostly scum motivated instances feel wrong.
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#534 Post by DeathLlama8 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:14 am

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:08 am
##Vote Flum
why tho
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#535 Post by Durga » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:22 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:53 am
kgray wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:18 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:25 pm


Bob and TFB seem to be trying to generate discussion. I get the feeling Foxcastle was looking for reactions with his one longer post. Fluminator said he was town.
Generating discussion on what? Memes? OOG factors? And Fox stated he was looking for laughs. You think that's towny, or do you think he was actually looking for some sort of alignment-indicative reactions? But mostly, you think Flum stating he's town is more town-motivated than two of the people on your list who actually provided some form of a read?
I don't know what OOG means, but yes, I thought it could be a type of reaction test. Fluminator saying he is town is a good indicator, certainly good enough for D1.
Okay, I think Flum is probably town but this is silly and one time he claimed scum when he was town
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#536 Post by ghug » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:22 am

DeathLlama8 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:57 am
just got off a plane, will catch up tn
interested in hearing if people are voting me for lurking or if they think that opening was scum-indicative
Why'd you +1 my post?
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#537 Post by Durga » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:24 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:54 am
BusinessLamp wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:47 am
Donny Dude wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:29 pm

That's fair.
I do have to agree with your damo take above.
I was going to use blamp as a Durga reader but now don't think thats a good idea.
yeah this is definitely a bad idea. For one, Durga and I mostly communicate over voice calls and have never been in a game environment together, so the mode of communication does not lend itself for me to have any more knowledge than others. Also, I have no idea how good at this in general I am lmao. No idea how solid my reads will be or if I'll be way way off.

not to mention, while i appreciate the trust, using anyone else as an indicator feels like it would just be a way to scapegoat/transfer blame to that person later on.
blamp, this is a stupid take

also the sudden jump to talk formally from not even capitalizing makes me kinda scumread you cause i do that sometimes when i'm lying. also you go back to not capitalizing like a nerd next paragraph
what is a stupid take? also i'm inconsistent with capitalizations all the time, so THAT is a stupid take
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#538 Post by ghug » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:24 am

Durga wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:01 am
It irks me when people are like hahha I'm not participating today and then after some pressure they randomly show up and are like well actually I was just busy
He said he was going to lurk until tonight and then did so. Maybe Maniac would like to see proof of his plane ticket?
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#539 Post by Durga » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:25 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:57 am
kgray wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:22 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:39 pm


Maybe not for DemonRHK, but Chaqa's attempt to wagon me based on questionable logic and and a mischaracterization of my post does not seem town motivated.

Donny, like Bonatogether, had posted a lot, but had not seemed to take a position on anyone despite the high number of posts.

rdrivera's defense could be town motivated or a pocketing attempt, but I do not recall rdrivera ever trying to pocket me when he was mafia.
What did Demon do that made you change your mind, and do you not think he's just as likely to be attempting to pocket you as Rivera?

Also, Donny townread ghug so you are incorrect in saying he has not taken a position on anyone.
Maybe RHK qualifying his defense with saying it was low effort made me less likely to think it might be pocketing. Maybe RHK has mastered the art of pocketing with just enough criticism to alleviate the suspicion of pocketing.
iirc he's always done that self-loathing schtik
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Re: M72 - “Echoes of Evelyn” - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#540 Post by DeathLlama8 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:26 am

ghug wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:22 am
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:57 am
just got off a plane, will catch up tn
interested in hearing if people are voting me for lurking or if they think that opening was scum-indicative
Why'd you +1 my post?
I saw TFB post that and was like "gross"
then I saw you calling him out for the same post and was like "nice"
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