MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[Foxcastle]

foxcastle who do you think the last wolf is on the kalech squad

Possibly Rdr, mostly based on D1 voting, on the assumption that he wanted to bus a little but wasn't willing to go through with it.

Damo and Squigs are also possible.

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damo tried pretty hard to kill flum day 1 which im less inclined to think he would do uneccessarily as a scum partner

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Don't let this tie.


Vote Flum

this just seems unlikely to be the actions of maf on maf shenanigans with so many wagons at (2) at this point day 1

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PE Sabi and Tom all Town.

This is gonna be easy.

Tom Bombadil (10)
Macca573 ghug snowy801 lfischl TheFlyingBoat Foxcastle damo666 bozotheclown BesharamSabi rdrivera2005


thats less of a good look

whyd you change your mind damo

[brainbomb]

If we assume

i) Durga didn't bus
ii) the entire durga team were not on Bona

then there has to be at least one Durga team member in:

Sabi Bozo Flum rdr TFB Tom

I townread most of these though.

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I think Tom jumping on my wagon smacks of opportunism

so you abandoned a townread because of omgus

[Foxcastle]

The Damo point is good. I'm just trying to not get tunnely on Rdr for a narrative that could be true, so I'm considering all of the possibilities that could go in that slot (Sabi, Bozo, Brain, Squigs, Damo, Rdr).

[rdrivera2005]

foxcastle who do you think the last wolf is on the kalech squad

Possibly Rdr, mostly based on D1 voting, on the assumption that he wanted to bus a little but wasn't willing to go through with it.

Damo and Squigs are also possible.

I wasn't going to post becore EON, but I find interesting you call a vote to tie the wagons at 4 minutes to EOD "bus a little but wasn't willing to go through with it".

How you call jumping on Bona out of the blue to make sure Flum isn't on the chopping block?

[Foxcastle]

foxcastle who do you think the last wolf is on the kalech squad

Possibly Rdr, mostly based on D1 voting, on the assumption that he wanted to bus a little but wasn't willing to go through with it.

Damo and Squigs are also possible.

I wasn't going to post becore EON, but I find interesting you call a vote to tie the wagons at 4 minutes to EOD "bus a little but wasn't willing to go through with it".

How you call jumping on Bona out of the blue to make sure Flum isn't on the chopping block?

You were on Meme when Flum, Ghug, Macca, and Bono were tied at three votes each. At that point, you jumped on Bona, which could be you saving Meme. You eventually do vote Flum, but only after Bona is ahead.

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without you giving me examples of me being scummy or me doing something that looks like im on a team with durga or a situation where I seem scared of durga I cant respond to an empty accusation.

I keep seeing my name on lists as scum but no reason behind it

[Squigs44]

Notable Durga interactions per request from ghug (flum next):

Very early on says she likes Sabi - probably not a teammate
Her reaction to the ghug/PE scuffle is a bit awkward, volunteers to fight ghug
When asked about her read on Foxy, Durga deflects
Has a sequence of posts saying she wouldn't mind a meme flip, doesn't want a ghug flip, then shades lfischl and damo without actually calling them scummy
Votes damo after ghug does
Durga pushes the idea that we aren't going to get any gameplay from meme this game and he should just be killed - probably not a teammate

Durga gets in the fight with bb, the way she ends it makes me think it is almost certainly not scum theater - bb probably not a teammate
Townreads Macca a couple times
Durga defends TFB against Tom

Jumps on the Bona wagon after bb makes his deal - reinforcing they are not teammates
Defends both Fox and Flum in the same post multiple times. Does Durga openly defends both teammates like that?
Durga turns on Macca (after townreading them early) - weird change in read, probably not teammates

The person Durga interacted the most with who she didnt spew or have an interesting read on/etc was actually Bozo. There's an interesting world where Durga tries to have organic interactions with her teammates and so she forces herself to interact with scummate Bozo but the interactions don't accomplish much, but this is just my tinfoil theory speaking.


Tl;dr - Durga is unlikely to be teammates with Brainbomb, Macca, Meme, (then less so) damo, Sabi. Also she has interesting interactions with Fox and ghug that I think make it less likely she is teammates with them although go read that for yourself cause there is some awkwardness there. She also interacts with my slot, so go make your own unbiased observations there. There was a post Durga made about TFB that caught my eye, but I'm not sure if TFB can be on a team with Flum, so I'll have to wait for that reread to draw conclusions.

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hmmmmmmmmm

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Tom death is a bonus manufacture elim that scum shouldnt have pulled off. Tom was not scummy and think its strange how few people are annoyed

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unless the ezic team is just ghug, macca, and flyingboat it is alternatively possible that the towncore of cronies is where the ezics reside. which is just alot higher of a hill to climb over

[Squigs44]

Notable Flum interactions (most of his posting is not notable tbh):

There's a post where Durga is questioning ghug in the PE scuffle and Flum defends ghug from Durga. I'm having a hard time seeing why Flum would defend ghug from his own teammate. If Durga is bussing, Flum could have been offering a way out. If ghug is not their teammate, then Flum is just stopping a Durga push which seems a bit odd, but it is Flum.

Flum uses some roundabout logic wrt the townslips to give a townread on rdr. I'm not sure I followed Flums logic but the whole interaction makes me think rdr probably isn't on Flums team.

Fabricates a gut scumread on TFB, also says he wouldn't mind a damo wagon but doesn't actually scumread damo.

Flum makes a comment in response to ghug basically asking why TFB and Bozo are wagons, which is weird cause Flum said he scumread TFB.

Finishes day 1 on TFB and tries to get other people on the wagon.

Flum tries to catch meme in a question trap that would be weird if they were teammates

Posts a nighttime reads list that actually isn't all that informative, a lot of nulls or repeating what he previously said. His read on rdr is not likely to be made on a teammate, and interestingly he reverses his read on TFB.

Flum does some analysis on Macca wrt to Durga that probably doesn't come from a teammate.

Flum shades Snowy a lot, but never seems to make an actual push

Tl;dr - Flum is unlikely to be on a team with Meme, Macca, rdr, (and less so) TFB. Flum gives some attention to both damo and Snowy without ever fully pushing. Weird interaction with defending ghug from Durga.

[Squigs44]

Oh and I should say that I mostly ignored lfischl in my analysis because I'm assuming he's the vig unless we get a CC and at that point we will sort it out.

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Oh and I should say that I mostly ignored lfischl in my analysis because I'm assuming he's the vig unless we get a CC and at that point we will sort it out.

your analysis seems even handed so far and im nodding along in complete agreement

[Squigs44]

So that leaves us with a Kolechian pool of: Bozo, ghug, Snowy (and less so) Fox, damo, TFB, Sabi (listed in order of most likely to least likely).

Bozo I'd like to switch my teams to:
Bozo as the last Kolechian, Ezic team as damo, Macca, meme

[rdrivera2005]

Possibly Rdr, mostly based on D1 voting, on the assumption that he wanted to bus a little but wasn't willing to go through with it.

Damo and Squigs are also possible.

I wasn't going to post becore EON, but I find interesting you call a vote to tie the wagons at 4 minutes to EOD "bus a little but wasn't willing to go through with it".

How you call jumping on Bona out of the blue to make sure Flum isn't on the chopping block?

You were on Meme when Flum, Ghug, Macca, and Bono were tied at three votes each. At that point, you jumped on Bona, which could be you saving Meme. You eventually do vote Flum, but only after Bona is ahead.

You were online at EOD1 so I don't get why you are tryng to twist things. I voted Bona to tie the voting but Sabi also voted Bona. Then I moved my vote to you to keep the tie but YOU voted Bona out of nowhere to put him on the lead I then voted Flum to try to tie again but Durga, Squigs, Ghug, Bozo and Damo closed the deal.

If I have to choose a partner to Flum it's you (I already pointed this on the Bozo survey, but I put you two on the other team). Ghug and Bozo are the other options I would consider for this slot.