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Re: MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

#1141 Post by Fluminator » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:37 pm

kgray wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:34 pm
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Unpopular opinion but Tom hasn't actually done anything townie. His posts make sense and have original content but it's been all NAI for me. Definitely not scumreading him, but it seems like multiple people have towncleared him and I'm not sure why.
I mean nobody is towncleared, obviously, but both times I've seen Tom as scum he's been awkward and reachy. Here he's relaxed and makes sense. Very good vibes imo
Yes, Tom is usually awkward as scum. That is why he'd be my strongest townread if this was a normal game.

Which is why I think he's scum. (But to be fair, he's probably going to be shot by the opposing mafia team anyway so I'm good keeping him alive)

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#1142 Post by damo666 » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:37 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:35 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:32 pm
Unpopular opinion but Tom hasn't actually done anything townie. His posts make sense and have original content but it's been all NAI for me. Definitely not scumreading him, but it seems like multiple people have towncleared him and I'm not sure why.
I don't think it's ao unpopular. I also don't have a townread on Tom, his play hehe Ben completely NAI to me.
Want to try that again rdr?

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#1143 Post by ghug » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:41 pm

Durga wrote:
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I am still down to get captainmeme 😌
Is this because he expressed interest in dying early or are you actually sensing scum amidst the trolling?

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#1144 Post by kgray » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:41 pm

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I think it's bold to assume même wouldn't do this as scum just because he would only have two teammates 😂 he literally joined this game to troll
Well it'd be kind of shitty to his teammates for him to troll himself to death, but yeah, after Jasnah's play in the no-reveal game I suppose I don't have as much faith in that argument

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#1145 Post by ghug » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:42 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
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Squigs44 wrote:
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I am agreeing with Kgray both on his Damo analysis and on TBF vote being sus.
I would vote for TFB but I don't want a runaway wagon. I am also not impressed with Bozo and Bona.
What's up with Bozo? He has seemed very similar to his town game last game. Him "catching" lfischl in a lie seems pretty standard town!bozo to me
I didn't said he is scummy, just that I am not impressed.
I usually have a hard time reading Bozo, but I thought he would be more involved in a game with two-Mafia and a lot of roles
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#1146 Post by ghug » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:43 pm

Durga wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:39 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
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Durga wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:29 pm
I am still down to get captainmeme 😌
I confess I just remember him pushing the no-kill. It's a bad idea, but why is it scummy?
It's not necessarily scummy, but it's not townie either. There's just a lack of content despite posts being made and a lack of engagement and I wouldn't mind seeing some pressure otherwise I doubt we'll get anything more than meme meme-ing all game
This i can accept. ##VOTE meme

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#1147 Post by Tom Bombadil » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:44 pm

Macca573 wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:36 pm
I'm actuall gonna pick apart this entire post.
Tom Bombadil wrote:
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Meme probably town.
vauge-ish statement. doesn't mean much and is the best part of this post


With 3 person scum teams it’s harder to protect teammates. assumptions about scum motivations/plays. great to cover your own ass laterI doubt scum meme would back himself into a corner with no kill theory and limit his ability to influence alternative wagons to a scum buddy if he were scum.an absurd theory. meme is known very well for this. he would get scumread to hell and back for not floating this idea, especially as te second half of the sentence holds true.

Flum I think is zany enough that I’m not giving him as much towncred because people probably wouldn’t blink twice if he dropped the idea and and pushed a wagon.what does this even mean? he thinks, that flum is so crazy, that he is thinking that people are thinking? three levels of thoughts. meaningless.

Still like TFB as target today just going along with the town. what a nice coincidence
Lol.

The first thing is not vague. It’s quite the opposite of vague. While I’m not certain meme is town I clearly say I think he is probably town.

Second point is not an assumption. It is a mechanical fact. With fewer teammates, it’s more difficult to protect a teammate with votes since collectively your team has fewer.

I’ve been on TFB since like the beginning. I scumread him before it was cool.

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#1148 Post by damo666 » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:44 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:37 pm
kgray wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:34 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:32 pm
Unpopular opinion but Tom hasn't actually done anything townie. His posts make sense and have original content but it's been all NAI for me. Definitely not scumreading him, but it seems like multiple people have towncleared him and I'm not sure why.
I mean nobody is towncleared, obviously, but both times I've seen Tom as scum he's been awkward and reachy. Here he's relaxed and makes sense. Very good vibes imo
Yes, Tom is usually awkward as scum. That is why he'd be my strongest townread if this was a normal game.

Which is why I think he's scum. (But to be fair, he's probably going to be shot by the opposing mafia team anyway so I'm good keeping him alive)
This is a very interesting point. With 2 scum NKs I would be wary of surviving 'strong' players.

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#1149 Post by Tom Bombadil » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:46 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:44 pm
Macca573 wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:36 pm
I'm actuall gonna pick apart this entire post.
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:24 pm
Meme probably town.
vauge-ish statement. doesn't mean much and is the best part of this post


With 3 person scum teams it’s harder to protect teammates. assumptions about scum motivations/plays. great to cover your own ass laterI doubt scum meme would back himself into a corner with no kill theory and limit his ability to influence alternative wagons to a scum buddy if he were scum.an absurd theory. meme is known very well for this. he would get scumread to hell and back for not floating this idea, especially as te second half of the sentence holds true.

Flum I think is zany enough that I’m not giving him as much towncred because people probably wouldn’t blink twice if he dropped the idea and and pushed a wagon.what does this even mean? he thinks, that flum is so crazy, that he is thinking that people are thinking? three levels of thoughts. meaningless.

Still like TFB as target today just going along with the town. what a nice coincidence
Lol.

The first thing is not vague. It’s quite the opposite of vague. While I’m not certain meme is town I clearly say I think he is probably town.

Second point is not an assumption. It is a mechanical fact. With fewer teammates, it’s more difficult to protect a teammate with votes since collectively your team has fewer.

I’ve been on TFB since like the beginning. I scumread him before it was cool.
Missed third point. Flum is a wild card, so people would be less suspicious of him dropping the no kill push to vote whereas meme I think would draw suspicion if he did that. Therefore Flum isn’t really backing himself into a corner if he had to protect teammates where I think meme would be.

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#1150 Post by ghug » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:50 pm

Durga wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 4:05 pm
kgray wrote:
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Durga wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:39 pm


It's not necessarily scummy, but it's not townie either. There's just a lack of content despite posts being made and a lack of engagement and I wouldn't mind seeing some pressure otherwise I doubt we'll get anything more than meme meme-ing all game
Meme has certainly been a lot more active than I was expecting, even if it's just been memes. I was originally thinking it was scummy that he wasn't completely lurking, but if he were trying to fake his engagement he could surely do better?

How does this compare to what you expected from him?
I can't actually remember a time he hasn't either joked or lurked all game as town or scum but my memory is shit
He used to actually play as both, but it devolved to lurking well before he retired.

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#1151 Post by Tom Bombadil » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:52 pm

We could also totally kill ghug

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#1152 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:52 pm

++ MINISTRY of ADMINISTRATION ++
+++ VOTE COUNT 1.8 +++

Captainmeme(5) - Rdrivera2005, Durga, kgray, Damo666, ghug
TheFlyingBoat(3) - Tom Bombadil, Fluminator, Squigs44
Lfischl(3) - Bonatogether, bozotheclown, Foxcastle
Bonatogether(2) - Lfischl, Brainbomb
damo666(1) - TheFlyingBoat
Squigs44(1) - Snowy801
Snowy801(1) - BesharamSabi
Tom Bombadil(1) - Macca573

No‑Kill(1) - Captainmeme

CaptainMeme is set to be redistributed.

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#1153 Post by kgray » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:55 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:42 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:38 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:30 pm


What's up with Bozo? He has seemed very similar to his town game last game. Him "catching" lfischl in a lie seems pretty standard town!bozo to me
I didn't said he is scummy, just that I am not impressed.
I usually have a hard time reading Bozo, but I thought he would be more involved in a game with two-Mafia and a lot of roles
Like this post
What about this post was great enough to warrant you pointing it out?

(no offense Rivera)

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#1154 Post by kgray » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:58 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
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We could also totally kill ghug
+1

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#1155 Post by Durga » Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:00 pm

I don't really want to kill ghug yet he keeps agreeing with me

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#1156 Post by damo666 » Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:00 pm

kgray wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:58 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:52 pm
We could also totally kill ghug
+1
Not today.

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#1157 Post by kgray » Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:00 pm

Durga wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:00 pm
I don't really want to kill ghug yet he keeps agreeing with me
that's why he's sus

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#1158 Post by brainbomb » Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:02 pm

I dont think meme is scum but if this is all we will be getting from him this game we may as well just rip the band aid off

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#1159 Post by snowy801 » Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:06 pm

I'm curious how the invalid vote boat man feels about all the suspicion on him. Don't think I've read any reactions

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#1160 Post by Fluminator » Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:06 pm

In defense of Meme, he's not going to be pushing a no-kill on future days.

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