MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[rdrivera2005]

lol @brain voting for me after he'd already killed me in M65

fwiw I agree with him that he's not in his scum meta. and I looked through his D1 ISOs of his scum games, so I checked this with Facts and Logic, and it's not just because he's buddying me.

Flum, on the other hand, is also buddying me but does sketch me out.

I didn't read old games but I have a townread on Brain too.

[Squigs44]

Does meme participate day 2 at least?

[ghug]

@TFB

1. Point taken re advice, forgot about scum also scumhunting
2. If I were scum I'd already be in an odds on situation.

Scrub 2 lol.

If I were scum and assume 4 town it would be 8-3.

Hard claim townslip.

It checks out as long as you're happy to kill your teammates.

[TheMadMonarch]

Thinking about it now, I don't actually scumread tfb; and I already forgave sabi.

just sat for a while looking at the player list, and I'm definitely gonna be ##VOTE Tom Bombadil -ing. I thought this before this post:

Meme probably town.

With 3 person scum teams it’s harder to protect teammates. I doubt scum meme would back himself into a corner with no kill theory and limit his ability to influence alternative wagons to a scum buddy if he were scum.

Flum I think is zany enough that I’m not giving him as much towncred because people probably wouldn’t blink twice if he dropped the idea and and pushed a wagon.

Still like TFB as target today

but I also do not like this. not at all

[kgray]

lol @brain voting for me after he'd already killed me in M65

fwiw I agree with him that he's not in his scum meta. and I looked through his D1 ISOs of his scum games, so I checked this with Facts and Logic, and it's not just because he's buddying me.

Flum, on the other hand, is also buddying me but does sketch me out.

What, the only people I'm trying to buddy right now are lfischl and deathllama if he replaces in.

After last game, I consider you townreading me to be buddying.

[kgray]

Thinking about it now, I don't actually scumread tfb; and I already forgave sabi.

just sat for a while looking at the player list, and I'm definitely gonna be ##VOTE Tom Bombadil -ing. I thought this before this post:

Meme probably town.

With 3 person scum teams it’s harder to protect teammates. I doubt scum meme would back himself into a corner with no kill theory and limit his ability to influence alternative wagons to a scum buddy if he were scum.

Flum I think is zany enough that I’m not giving him as much towncred because people probably wouldn’t blink twice if he dropped the idea and and pushed a wagon.

Still like TFB as target today

but I also do not like this. not at all

what?? why??

[Tom Bombadil]

Thinking about it now, I don't actually scumread tfb; and I already forgave sabi.

just sat for a while looking at the player list, and I'm definitely gonna be ##VOTE Tom Bombadil -ing. I thought this before this post:

Meme probably town.

With 3 person scum teams it’s harder to protect teammates. I doubt scum meme would back himself into a corner with no kill theory and limit his ability to influence alternative wagons to a scum buddy if he were scum.

Flum I think is zany enough that I’m not giving him as much towncred because people probably wouldn’t blink twice if he dropped the idea and and pushed a wagon.

Still like TFB as target today

but I also do not like this. not at all

What don’t you like? The premise? Expand please

[brainbomb]

##Vote bona

[Squigs44]

Unpopular opinion but Tom hasn't actually done anything townie. His posts make sense and have original content but it's been all NAI for me. Definitely not scumreading him, but it seems like multiple people have towncleared him and I'm not sure why.

[damo666]

I was thinking of this and it seemed like you were compiling townreads quickly and I wasnt one of them. Curious what I needed to do to prove my worth

There are 12 others in the same pool as you (not towncore). Don't fret. FYI you are currently townlean.

This just feels like damo trying to get brain off his back. Damo, why do you townlean Brain?

I'm not trying to get him off my back I just don't get his point. I list 4 towncore out of 13 which he calls large and is concerned he is excluded.

I townlean him mainly on 'feel' but also I can't see scumbrain pursuing this line.

[Durga]

I think it's bold to assume même wouldn't do this as scum just because he would only have two teammates he literally joined this game to troll

[Squigs44]

Oh cross post with Macca

[rdrivera2005]

Meme probably town.

With 3 person scum teams it’s harder to protect teammates. I doubt scum meme would back himself into a corner with no kill theory and limit his ability to influence alternative wagons to a scum buddy if he were scum.

Flum I think is zany enough that I’m not giving him as much towncred because people probably wouldn’t blink twice if he dropped the idea and and pushed a wagon.

Still like TFB as target today

Hmmm that meme thing is a good point.

I feel like I'm going to be convinced by everything Tom says this game anyway, so I should probably just sheep him.

I don't agree with this. You can defend no-kill and still vote at EOD. Ezio had done this a lot of times. I doubt meme won't vote a counter if he is on the block at EOD (and it would be the right play as any alignment).

[ghug]

Flum can you stop trolling and actually play

That seems unlikely.

I'm impressed he got so many people with the self vote given it's the second game he's pulled that stunt.

[brainbomb]

##Vote bonatogether

[kgray]

Unpopular opinion but Tom hasn't actually done anything townie. His posts make sense and have original content but it's been all NAI for me. Definitely not scumreading him, but it seems like multiple people have towncleared him and I'm not sure why.

I mean nobody is towncleared, obviously, but both times I've seen Tom as scum he's been awkward and reachy. Here he's relaxed and makes sense. Very good vibes imo

[rdrivera2005]

Unpopular opinion but Tom hasn't actually done anything townie. His posts make sense and have original content but it's been all NAI for me. Definitely not scumreading him, but it seems like multiple people have towncleared him and I'm not sure why.

I don't think it's ao unpopular. I also don't have a townread on Tom, his play hehe Ben completely NAI to me.

[ghug]

And fwiw re: damo, I do think him *not* being under the radar is generally a town sign from him, but he’s often under the radar as both alignments (especially early on) so I don’t see that as a scum sign. Most of what I’ve seen from him is very normal town!damo stuff, though tbf it’s not difficult to fake.

I got good vibes from him coming back and implying he townread three different people than he actually townread.

[TheMadMonarch]

I'm actuall gonna pick apart this entire post.

Meme probably town.
vauge-ish statement. doesn't mean much and is the best part of this post

With 3 person scum teams it’s harder to protect teammates. assumptions about scum motivations/plays. great to cover your own ass laterI doubt scum meme would back himself into a corner with no kill theory and limit his ability to influence alternative wagons to a scum buddy if he were scum.an absurd theory. meme is known very well for this. he would get scumread to hell and back for not floating this idea, especially as te second half of the sentence holds true.

Flum I think is zany enough that I’m not giving him as much towncred because people probably wouldn’t blink twice if he dropped the idea and and pushed a wagon.what does this even mean? he thinks, that flum is so crazy, that he is thinking that people are thinking? three levels of thoughts. meaningless.

Still like TFB as target today just going along with the town. what a nice coincidence

[kgray]

Meme probably town.

With 3 person scum teams it’s harder to protect teammates. I doubt scum meme would back himself into a corner with no kill theory and limit his ability to influence alternative wagons to a scum buddy if he were scum.

Flum I think is zany enough that I’m not giving him as much towncred because people probably wouldn’t blink twice if he dropped the idea and and pushed a wagon.

Still like TFB as target today

Hmmm that meme thing is a good point.

I feel like I'm going to be convinced by everything Tom says this game anyway, so I should probably just sheep him.

I don't agree with this. You can defend no-kill and still vote at EOD. Ezio had done this a lot of times. I doubt meme won't vote a counter if he is on the block at EOD (and it would be the right play as any alignment).

I think it's less about voting for no-kill (because yes, he can still place a real vote at the last minute) and more about not trying to save/defend himself at all leading up to the EOD.