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Re: MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

#3221 Post by brainbomb » Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:14 am

Fox how is your giant list helpful?

what conclusions do you have

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#3222 Post by Squigs44 » Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:18 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:46 am
I think a mass claim would probably be a good thing, but not because it would be auto-win. 4 town clears and whatever information the cops have will give us the best chance of DKing mafia today, and with the roleblocker, driver, and enforcer gone, the cop is sure to get another scan N3 with the doctor knowing who to protect. Also, if a PR is forced to claim at EOD again, it would likely result in another scramble that would get a town mis-killed, or possibly an unavailable PR.

There are too many variables to say it will definitely help us, especially not knowing what the cops have found out, but I support a mass claim if that is the consensus.
There is certainly value to be gained through a mass claim, but I think we probably have greater value tomorrow or the next day depending on how things shake out. The problem with our scans is that we have 2 millers left. So most of the scans don't actually tell us much until we get additional info

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#3223 Post by Squigs44 » Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:19 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:49 am
captainmeme wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:04 am
Squigs44 wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:58 pm


Brain is only cleared from one team

There's 11 people left. If we massclaim we have 4 PRs cleared then 3 scum and 4 VTs. Worst case scenario we DK a VT back to back days and the 2 scum teams kill all 4 of our PRs leaving 3 scum and 2 VTs left. So no, not even close to autowin
brain is cleared from both teams

if he was kolechian there would not have been a second nk

if he was ezic there would be an rb cc unless they held, and holding is ridiculous since they could use rb to search for the kolechian
That is exactly why holding and claiming the RB would be a good scum play.
More likely ghug would have RBd Snowy when they killed him instead of holding

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#3224 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:19 am

brainbomb wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:14 am
Fox how is your giant list helpful?

what conclusions do you have
If you're town, you eliminate the 10 teams that include you. Then you start in on the rest of your POE. It's a big list, but it's to a point where it's manageable, and will only get increasingly useful as more information comes to light.

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#3225 Post by Squigs44 » Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:22 am

Hmmm I think damo is my higher probability scum, but he's more likely to be Ezic. If we're strictly going for Kolechians to stop the NKs then I'd rather go Bozo.

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#3226 Post by brainbomb » Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:23 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:19 am
brainbomb wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:14 am
Fox how is your giant list helpful?

what conclusions do you have
If you're town, you eliminate the 10 teams that include you. Then you start in on the rest of your POE. It's a big list, but it's to a point where it's manageable, and will only get increasingly useful as more information comes to light.
I just dont trust you

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#3227 Post by BesharamSabi » Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:23 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:10 am
BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:03 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:57 am


I would say for us to wait another day and cop(s) tell her results at next EON. At least one of them will have a 3rd scan and a 4th one if Doc still alive. The biggest risk is the two NKs so killing last Kolechian seems the way to go. I am torn between Fox and Sabi.
Woah hold up, when did you change your tune in regards to me.

Also why is cops a girl? There is no she/her left in the game 🤔
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Because somehow I wrote her instead of their. Maybe it was the auto typing on the phone or maybe just my bad English.

About you, the main thing was the vote on Bona when Flum was getting traction on D1. I think one of you tried to save Flum. I think Fox is more likely and this is why I am voting him.
I voted bona due to him being weird at EOD. That's straight up is it.

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#3228 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:25 am

I think massclaim is a bad idea while we still have two scum teams. It turns it into a shooting gallery. If we did something like walking the claims sequentially, maybe that forces the scum teams into a prisoners' dilemma that saves town from NKs.

Actually, this probably only works for the alignment cop, as both scum teams would probably prefer multiple town/opposing scum team deaths to taking out the doctor or the role cop (or lfischl, apparently...)


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#3230 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:27 am

brainbomb wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:23 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:19 am
brainbomb wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:14 am
Fox how is your giant list helpful?

what conclusions do you have
If you're town, you eliminate the 10 teams that include you. Then you start in on the rest of your POE. It's a big list, but it's to a point where it's manageable, and will only get increasingly useful as more information comes to light.
I just dont trust you
I'm sure someone else can confirm the list.

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#3231 Post by Squigs44 » Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:55 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:27 am
brainbomb wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:23 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:19 am


If you're town, you eliminate the 10 teams that include you. Then you start in on the rest of your POE. It's a big list, but it's to a point where it's manageable, and will only get increasingly useful as more information comes to light.
I just dont trust you
I'm sure someone else can confirm the list.
The list is probably accurate (I haven't checked it completely) but not useful in actually telling us anything, it's more of an organizational tool

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#3232 Post by Squigs44 » Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:58 am

While I'm against a mass claim today, if either cop has 2 scans that they deem are useful, they could consider whether them claiming is worth it or not

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#3233 Post by brainbomb » Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:05 am

who among us seems least likely to be town

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#3234 Post by lfischl » Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:11 am

ghug wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:37 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:30 pm
I'm going to get dinner and will miss EON.

If I die, don't kill Ghug. (Am I doing it right??)
Someone needed to say it.
hm. ##vote foxcastle

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#3235 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:34 am

Given the desire to eliminate Kolechia today I'll be switching my vote to my previous call ##VOTE FOX. I do not believe I will be available for EOD given that this will likely be among my last comments for the rest of the game day. See y'all on the other side.

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#3236 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:35 am

Oh wait the day just started I should be on the ground in India and if I'm jet lagged enough i might actually be on at EOD

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#3237 Post by brainbomb » Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:37 am

TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:35 am
Oh wait the day just started I should be on the ground in India and if I'm jet lagged enough i might actually be on at EOD
can we call your agent if we need you?

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#3238 Post by brainbomb » Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:45 am

##vote BesharamSabi

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#3239 Post by brainbomb » Tue Dec 21, 2021 3:33 am

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#3240 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Dec 21, 2021 3:35 am

Squigs44 wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:19 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:49 am
captainmeme wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:04 am


brain is cleared from both teams

if he was kolechian there would not have been a second nk

if he was ezic there would be an rb cc unless they held, and holding is ridiculous since they could use rb to search for the kolechian
That is exactly why holding and claiming the RB would be a good scum play.
More likely ghug would have RBd Snowy when they killed him instead of holding
True, that is another reason the RB is not town clearing.

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