MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[rdrivera2005]

Let's just recap Day 3. Fox claimed scan on meme, everyone piled on meme. Brain and Fox put out these arguments for meme potentially being town and damo accepts it at face value without commenting and starts wagoning with the sole purpose of finding Kolechian scum. If damo isn't opportunistic Ezic, I'm not sure what he is.

So as Ezic I mame my two teammates as Ezic in Bozo's survey? Would I do that? Of course not.

Would Durga bus me day one. Of course not.

Am i scum? Of course not.

Am I town? Of course I am.

At least for Durga did she bus you that hard? I mean she joined an early wagon with ghug but she basically argued that I should give up my wagon on you because it was going nowhere and jumped off of you with plenty of time to spare to move onto meme. Now to be fair at no point did she vote for Flum, so maybe she doesn't ever touch scum partners day 1 in meaningless votes, but somehow I doubt that and would need to look at past games to confirm. I'll probably do that later tonight my time.

This doesn't make sense. If Damo is Ezic Durga wasn't bussing him because she was Kolechian. Damo is just fabricating an argument, just not sure if it's towny or scummy.

[rdrivera2005]

I kinda think macca is clean here

Why? I don't think they are Kolechian, but why can't they be Ezic?

[damo666]

So as Ezic I mame my two teammates as Ezic in Bozo's survey? Would I do that? Of course not.

Would Durga bus me day one. Of course not.

Am i scum? Of course not.

Am I town? Of course I am.

At least for Durga did she bus you that hard? I mean she joined an early wagon with ghug but she basically argued that I should give up my wagon on you because it was going nowhere and jumped off of you with plenty of time to spare to move onto meme. Now to be fair at no point did she vote for Flum, so maybe she doesn't ever touch scum partners day 1 in meaningless votes, but somehow I doubt that and would need to look at past games to confirm. I'll probably do that later tonight my time.

This doesn't make sense. If Damo is Ezic Durga wasn't bussing him because she was Kolechian. Damo is just fabricating an argument, just not sure if it's towny or scummy.

No. You misinterpret. The first sentence is to prove I'm not Ezic. The second is to prove I'm not Kolechian.

[damo666]

E pool bar squ Sabi rdr

K pool boz squ Sabi rdr

Why are you giving such a free pass to Macca and TFB?

Specially Macca. They were scum before and played really well being under the radar until the end.

Durga voted Macca makes them unlikely K.

Ghug put captmeme and Macca on team with durga, is he gonna put both his scummates together like that? Nope.

TFB next post.

[damo666]

E pool bar squ Sabi rdr

K pool boz squ Sabi rdr

Why are you giving such a free pass to Macca and TFB?

Specially Macca. They were scum before and played really well being under the radar until the end.

Day 1 voting suggests TFB is not K, his scumteam predictions suggest he is not E.

[damo666]

E pool bra squ Sabi rdr

K pool boz squ Sabi rdr

I'm gonna stick my head out and say Sabi is town.

I think it unlikely team E would hold their RB to give brain a quasi clear so this leaves Squi and rdr. The PE show makes S unlikely I therefore conclude rdr isthe last Ezic. He makes sense as deep cover as Capt was bound to be sacrificed. I also see ghug and rdr killing Durga N1.

So, this leaves the last Kolechian as Bozo or Squigs. Given Bozo's attempts to paint PE as scum I tend to go for Bozo.

Game solution:

Last K: Bozo
Last E: rdr

[rdrivera2005]

E pool bra squ Sabi rdr

K pool boz squ Sabi rdr

I'm gonna stick my head out and say Sabi is town.

I think it unlikely team E would hold their RB to give brain a quasi clear so this leaves Squi and rdr. The PE show makes S unlikely I therefore conclude rdr isthe last Ezic. He makes sense as deep cover as Capt was bound to be sacrificed. I also see ghug and rdr killing Durga N1.

So, this leaves the last Kolechian as Bozo or Squigs. Given Bozo's attempts to paint PE as scum I tend to go for Bozo.

Game solution:

Last K: Bozo
Last E: rdr

I think you are making too many assumptions and this is pretty bad if you are town (and you are wrong about me).

[BesharamSabi]

My goal is to reread day 3 by eon.

Wish me luck

[Jamiet99uk]

=== MINISTRY of FESTIVITY ===

To confirm:

There will be a 48 hour pause, beginning from the 24 hour point of Day 4.

The game will effectively be closed during this period. No posting will be allowed.

Day 4 may *not* be hammered as this would circumvent the pause which was popularly demanded.

Please ensure your families celebrate appropriately.

Glory to Arstotzka.

[Squigs44]

squiggs what did you like about a macca wagon at that point? you ask for reasons and then just join it without any reasons given

A combination of things - not being sold on any of the existing wagons, wanting to see what reactions came, being caught up in the excitement of all 3 of us posting the same thing in a span of 5 seconds. As for why Macca could have been scum I mostly didn't like how Maccas push on Tom was formed, it looked forced

[Squigs44]

E pool bra squ Sabi rdr

K pool boz squ Sabi rdr

I'm gonna stick my head out and say Sabi is town.

I think it unlikely team E would hold their RB to give brain a quasi clear so this leaves Squi and rdr. The PE show makes S unlikely I therefore conclude rdr isthe last Ezic. He makes sense as deep cover as Capt was bound to be sacrificed. I also see ghug and rdr killing Durga N1.

So, this leaves the last Kolechian as Bozo or Squigs. Given Bozo's attempts to paint PE as scum I tend to go for Bozo.

Game solution:

Last K: Bozo
Last E: rdr

Plausible. Rdr isn't my top choice for Ezic, but plausible

[damo666]

E pool bra squ Sabi rdr

K pool boz squ Sabi rdr

I'm gonna stick my head out and say Sabi is town.

I think it unlikely team E would hold their RB to give brain a quasi clear so this leaves Squi and rdr. The PE show makes S unlikely I therefore conclude rdr isthe last Ezic. He makes sense as deep cover as Capt was bound to be sacrificed. I also see ghug and rdr killing Durga N1.

So, this leaves the last Kolechian as Bozo or Squigs. Given Bozo's attempts to paint PE as scum I tend to go for Bozo.

Game solution:

Last K: Bozo
Last E: rdr

I think you are making too many assumptions and this is pretty bad if you are town (and you are wrong about me).

Ok let's assume you and I are both town.
Which, if any, of my assumptions do you agree with (at least 3 must be right)?
Of those left which are the weakest?

I'd be quite happy to discuss each in turn.

I think the weakest is the blanket assumption Sabi is town but I have difficulty accepting that day 1 display as scum.

[TheMadMonarch]

E pool bar squ Sabi rdr

K pool boz squ Sabi rdr

Why are you giving such a free pass to Macca and TFB?

Specially Macca. They were scum before and played really well being under the radar until the end.

When.

[TheMadMonarch]

*When?

[TheMadMonarch]

I love playing scum, but I'm absolutely terrible at it.

[Squigs44]

I love playing scum, but I'm absolutely terrible at it.

Ah yes, and your play this game has been just outstanding...

[damo666]

I love playing scum, but I'm absolutely terrible at it.

Ah yes, and your play this game has been just outstanding...

Ouch!

[TheMadMonarch]

I love playing scum, but I'm absolutely terrible at it.

Ah yes, and your play this game has been just outstanding...

I'm not offended. This is a fact.

The point here is rdr us lying.

[damo666]

I love playing scum, but I'm absolutely terrible at it.

Ah yes, and your play this game has been just outstanding...

I'm not offended. This is a fact.

The point here is rdr us lying.

rdr is lying about what?

[brainbomb]

the interesting thing is that since lone wolves are all thats left nobody is defending a teammate with their actions today. both bad guys are last men or they or women standing for their squad.

that type of play should look different from people who are just trying to solve.

so maybe we should focus on sabi and discuss if we want them in endgame or not.And we should discuss macca in the same way.

those two definetely need to be held to a higher standard of what we expect of an endgame player