MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[damo666]

@Bozo if you are not Kolechian isn't it obvious Squigs must be?

[bozotheclown]

@Bozo if you are not Kolechian isn't it obvious Squigs must be?

I think Squigs is a good possibility. I reread his D1 and he did not give any indication that he would prefer Bonatogether over Fluminator, yet his EOD vote ensured Bonatogether would be the DK.

I also do not see any reason it could not be rdrivera or BesharamSabi, they have avoided suspicion but could still be mafia.

[rdrivera2005]

people like rivera were in here saying the worst thing that could happen was a dead game over christmas.

were in a dead game now. and where was rivera to prevent his greatest concerns

I am here and the game isn't dead. I also think meme will flip Miller but I don't think we have much of an option or do you suggest we let him to end game? Mafia won't kill him and we will lose another day sorting him.

[bozotheclown]

@Bozo if you are not Kolechian isn't it obvious Squigs must be?

I think Squigs is a good possibility. I reread his D1 and he did not give any indication that he would prefer Bonatogether over Fluminator, yet his EOD vote ensured Bonatogether would be the DK.

I also do not see any reason it could not be rdrivera or BesharamSabi, they have avoided suspicion but could still be mafia.

It could also be brainbomb, there is no reason he could not be on Durga's team and still be roleblocked.

[Squigs44]

@Bozo if you are not Kolechian isn't it obvious Squigs must be?

I think Squigs is a good possibility. I reread his D1 and he did not give any indication that he would prefer Bonatogether over Fluminator, yet his EOD vote ensured Bonatogether would be the DK.

I also do not see any reason it could not be rdrivera or BesharamSabi, they have avoided suspicion but could still be mafia.

It could also be brainbomb, there is no reason he could not be on Durga's team and still be roleblocked.

How would you explain there being 2 kills last night?

[rdrivera2005]

I think brain is right. ##UNVOTE

Maybe Meme is scum, or maybe he's not. I don't know, I am leaning Miller. But we are going to have to kill him. Tomorrow would be a better day for that while we gain more information from another flip. I also doubt the scum teams would kill Meme, so that narrows their pool even further.

Wait this doesn't make any sense. For the info we get tomorrow, isn't that information going to be about players other than meme? We can't get any more info on meme from a scan (or his play) so it makes no sense to delay voting him on the basis of information. We WILL have more info on other players tomorrow though (through a scan, as well as posts and voting)

Exactly. Delaying this is pointless.

[bozotheclown]

real talk though don't we maybe just have autowin right now with a massclaim

obv don't actually massclaim til we've talked it through but like

there's no way ezic would have held a rb when they could use it to test for the kolechian, so bb is clear

ifschisal is clear

we've got two cops who could out with up to 4 scans

that seems pretty autowin to me

This post from captainmeme trying to clear brainbomb did not make any sense. He dismisses the possibility that ghug's team would withhold the RB because they could use it to test for the other mafia team, and claims brainbomb is therefore clear. Why couldn't they have been using the RB to test brainbomb? It makes me wonder if this could be a scum slip where captainmeme did not consider brainbomb could be on Durga's team because the 2 of the are on ghug's team.

[bozotheclown]

I think Squigs is a good possibility. I reread his D1 and he did not give any indication that he would prefer Bonatogether over Fluminator, yet his EOD vote ensured Bonatogether would be the DK.

I also do not see any reason it could not be rdrivera or BesharamSabi, they have avoided suspicion but could still be mafia.

It could also be brainbomb, there is no reason he could not be on Durga's team and still be roleblocked.

How would you explain there being 2 kills last night?

Right, I forgot about that, you can disregard my previous post as well.

[Foxcastle]

people like rivera were in here saying the worst thing that could happen was a dead game over christmas.

were in a dead game now. and where was rivera to prevent his greatest concerns

I am here and the game isn't dead. I also think meme will flip Miller but I don't think we have much of an option or do you suggest we let him to end game? Mafia won't kill him and we will lose another day sorting him.

We lose today sorting him, or we lose tomorrow sorting him, but the scum know they have to kill him, so he won't be NK'd. If we flip someone else today, we limit the NK by one additional player, meaning that there's a greater chance of flipping the other miller or maybe scum hitting scum.

[Foxcastle]

people like rivera were in here saying the worst thing that could happen was a dead game over christmas.

were in a dead game now. and where was rivera to prevent his greatest concerns

I am here and the game isn't dead. I also think meme will flip Miller but I don't think we have much of an option or do you suggest we let him to end game? Mafia won't kill him and we will lose another day sorting him.

We lose today sorting him, or we lose tomorrow sorting him, but the scum know they have to kill him, so he won't be NK'd. If we flip someone else today, we limit the NK by one additional player, meaning that there's a greater chance of flipping the other miller or maybe scum hitting scum.

Sorry, I meant to say, "The scum know that WE have to kill him"

[bozotheclown]

real talk though don't we maybe just have autowin right now with a massclaim

obv don't actually massclaim til we've talked it through but like

there's no way ezic would have held a rb when they could use it to test for the kolechian, so bb is clear

ifschisal is clear

we've got two cops who could out with up to 4 scans

that seems pretty autowin to me

This post from captainmeme trying to clear brainbomb did not make any sense. He dismisses the possibility that ghug's team would withhold the RB because they could use it to test for the other mafia team, and claims brainbomb is therefore clear. Why couldn't they have been using the RB to test brainbomb? It makes me wonder if this could be a scum slip where captainmeme did not consider brainbomb could be on Durga's team because the 2 of the are on ghug's team.

OK, I forgot brainbomb could not be on Durga's and really be roleblocked because of the NK, but I still would not dismiss the possibility of holding the RB.

[Foxcastle]

I don't have a good reason for voting for anyone at this point, but I'm willing to flip Damo. ##VOTE DAMO

[Squigs44]

people like rivera were in here saying the worst thing that could happen was a dead game over christmas.

were in a dead game now. and where was rivera to prevent his greatest concerns

I am here and the game isn't dead. I also think meme will flip Miller but I don't think we have much of an option or do you suggest we let him to end game? Mafia won't kill him and we will lose another day sorting him.

We lose today sorting him, or we lose tomorrow sorting him, but the scum know they have to kill him, so he won't be NK'd. If we flip someone else today, we limit the NK by one additional player, meaning that there's a greater chance of flipping the other miller or maybe scum hitting scum.

Flipping someone else today also increases our odds of outing one of our remaining PRs earlier

[Squigs44]

Also, by waiting a day we will have a smaller pool to vote in than we do today unless mafia only target the two PRs (who the doctor could be saving)

[Squigs44]

This isn't like some outted serial killer where we keep them alive while they vig for us. Meme is at worst a dead weight miller and at best we get scum. Keeping him around an extra day does nothing. If you think he's town that is one thing, but trying to argue that keeping him alive an extra day just to vote him tomorrow is optimal is false.

[Squigs44]

I don't have a good reason for voting for anyone at this point, but I'm willing to flip Damo. ##VOTE DAMO

What if I told you our cop had a guilty scan on someone? Would that be a good enough reason? Why did you scan meme in the first place?

[Squigs44]

When looking for the last of the Kolechians, keep in mind that they NKd ghug. Was that NK to give them protection from pressure ghug was giving, or did they suspect ghug was on the other team?

Bozo as the last Kolechian makes sense here given what happened day 2 between ghug and Bozo

[rdrivera2005]

This is so frustrating.


Earlier today:
Squigs - damo is super scummy we should vote him
Everyone else - nah let's get Fox
Squigs - I don't think Fox is the right play. How about we go after Bozo, I think he's the last of the Kolechians
Everyone else - Nah let's stay on Fox

Fox - I'm cop and have a guilty on Meme

Squigs - Great let's kill meme
Brain - guys have you seen how scummy damo is
Squigs - no really, meme is our best choice
Damo - Squigs why aren't you pushing that Bozo is the last of the Kolechians?

I was also second guessing my scum read on Fox and also think we should kill meme, so it's not everyone else.

Also, at this point I hardly see a scumteam without Sabi, so assuming they are town is dangerous.

[rdrivera2005]

@Bozo if you are not Kolechian isn't it obvious Squigs must be?

I think Squigs is a good possibility. I reread his D1 and he did not give any indication that he would prefer Bonatogether over Fluminator, yet his EOD vote ensured Bonatogether would be the DK.

I also do not see any reason it could not be rdrivera or BesharamSabi, they have avoided suspicion but could still be mafia.

Bozo, if you are not scum you are the one saving this game for town.

[rdrivera2005]

I think Squigs is a good possibility. I reread his D1 and he did not give any indication that he would prefer Bonatogether over Fluminator, yet his EOD vote ensured Bonatogether would be the DK.

I also do not see any reason it could not be rdrivera or BesharamSabi, they have avoided suspicion but could still be mafia.

It could also be brainbomb, there is no reason he could not be on Durga's team and still be roleblocked.

How would you explain there being 2 kills last night?

Brain can't be Kolechian he is either town or Ezic.