MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[brainbomb]

I feel like rivera is just feeding me alot of what I want to hear all game.

[Jamiet99uk]

##Call GM
if a forger targets a miller and alters their papers would a miller appear as town instead in that scenario or does the forger always just change papers to a guilty even if that person is already a guilty?

If the Forger targets a Miller, it changes their papers to VALID and VANILLA (for that night).

[captainmeme]

I am mainly voting Fox because then I will be the last KFC member standing

but I'm also okay with other reasons ig

kfc still exists and fox got added to it? is warden still around?

yeah KFC is all the dead players except Snowy and Bona
plus Fox and myself

[brainbomb]

##Call GM
if a forger targets a miller and alters their papers would a miller appear as town instead in that scenario or does the forger always just change papers to a guilty even if that person is already a guilty?

If the Forger targets a Miller, it changes their papers to VALID and VANILLA (for that night).

[captainmeme]

that was where they bullied me into signing up for this game lmao

after the game I get to dab on them all for getting outlived by the troll

[brainbomb]

I completely can see you getting to brag and that you are genuinely in a good mood

[rdrivera2005]

rivera youve been calling for bozos head all game. can you explain what is so different about him in this game than in past games?

also why was fox on your radar back then, he is also still alive

That's exactly what I am telling in this message and on the last ones. I think Fox, Bozo and Snowy (that we know now were town) were the key responsible for Bona's death (and for saving Flum).
I am happy with Fox wagon, but I don't want to just lose the day without another wagon. Probably won't work anyway.

Why do you think I was responsible for Bonatogether DK? Bonatogether was ahead 7-4 when I voted for him, and you ignored Squigs voting for Bonatogether when it was only 5-4.

You are right, I made a confusion between Squigs and Snowy (those S people). So, Squigs is also a possibility for lone wolf.

[rdrivera2005]

actually wtf
bozo is right; I was the most responsible for bonas death how am I not a prime suspect in that vein

You were voting Bona since a long time. Unless you were saving Meme I don't see much scuminess on your Bona vote more then any other vote on a town.

[rdrivera2005]

im still waiting for rivera and squiggs to explain what fox has done that is towny today. and why they are fighting tooth and nail to keep him alive. acting like our christmas will be soured if we end hammer him

I am not fighting to save Fox. I don't want a useless day.

And unless you think we are both in Ghug's team, what incentive I have to save Fox?

I am more worried with half the game that just disappeared.

[brainbomb]

Bonatogether(9) - Lfischl, Brainbomb, BesharamSabi, Foxcastle, Durga, Squigs44, ghug, bozotheclown, Damo666

Tom Bombadil (10) Macca573 ghug snowy801 lfischl TheFlyingBoat Foxcastle damo666 bozotheclown BesharamSabi rdrivera2005

rivera for a guy who hates runaway wagons how did you end on tom?
I saw one post day one where you asked damo why tom was town
and day two you never interacted with tom or even mention tom..

[rdrivera2005]

I feel like rivera is just feeding me alot of what I want to hear all game.

I was really liking your takes before you entered in paranoia mode after me.
And I believe your RB claim.

[rdrivera2005]

Bonatogether(9) - Lfischl, Brainbomb, BesharamSabi, Foxcastle, Durga, Squigs44, ghug, bozotheclown, Damo666

Tom Bombadil (10) Macca573 ghug snowy801 lfischl TheFlyingBoat Foxcastle damo666 bozotheclown BesharamSabi rdrivera2005

rivera for a guy who hates runaway wagons how did you end on tom?
I saw one post day one where you asked damo why tom was town
and day two you never interacted with tom or even mention tom..

Because lfischl claimed with a pretty believable claim (fake claiming an used Vig is absolute nonsense for scum).

[Jamiet99uk]

=== MINISTRY of ADMINISTRATION ===
++++++ VOTE COUNT 3.2 ++++++

Foxcastle (5) - captainmeme, BesharamSabi, lfischl, TheFlyingBoat, bozotheclown
bozotheclown (2) - Squigs44, rdrivera2005
damo666 (1) - Macca573
Rdrivera2005(1) - Brainbomb

Unvoted: Damo666
Not Voted: Foxcastle

FOXCASTLE is popular choice.

28 hours and 35 minutes are left.

=== MINISTRY of HEALTH ===
+++++++ NOTICE +++++++

All branches of "Kolechian Fried Offal" in the Lendiforma and Wozenfield districts have been ordered to close due to a suspected salmonella outbreak.

[Foxcastle]

this was your best day? and it went downhill from here?

Ah, I see now, it's a ridiculous gotcha question where no matter what I said you had something to throw back in my face.

its not a gotcha question.
if it was wrong place at wrong time saying something really unfortunate then that is what it is and I have done that many times

Okay, I'm feeling defensive, so apologies. Yes, I got stuck on defending ghug, and stuck on being unsure about Flum, and stuck on thinking lfischl was a good flip.

[brainbomb]

Ah, I see now, it's a ridiculous gotcha question where no matter what I said you had something to throw back in my face.

its not a gotcha question.
if it was wrong place at wrong time saying something really unfortunate then that is what it is and I have done that many times

Okay, I'm feeling defensive, so apologies. Yes, I got stuck on defending ghug, and stuck on being unsure about Flum, and stuck on thinking lfischl was a good flip.

pull yourself up and join the hunters

[Foxcastle]

I think there are 3 scum who could be voting me that are happy to just let it happen, because the last Kolechian knows at least they aren't going to die, and the two remaining Eziks think maybe they've got the last Kolechian pinned down without any support. That combined with a few town who have been scumreading me for a bit and just generally think I'm a good kill probably means that not much is going to change in the next 28 hours. However, I am happy to see that there are hunters. Thus:

I am the Inspector (alignment cop). I did not crumb. I investigated Ghug on N1 and learned that he had valid papers, which were obviously forged. That is why I spent yesterday trying to avoid ghug being the kill. My joke post about "if I die, don't kill ghug" was my attempt to convey my scan without revealing myself. Last night, my scan revealed that Meme has invalid papers. Unfortunately, there's a 40% chance that he's a miller.

I do not believe that there should be a mass claim. I think that me revealing myself has a chance to do some real good for town by forcing the two remaining scum teams into a prisoners' dilemma along with the Doctor. They both need to target me for the kill to avoid risking that neither of them will target me (thus allowing more scans). At the same time, they have to outguess the Doctor—if I'm being saved N3, they should not target me, but if the Doctor guesses that, then I can be saved N4, etc etc WIFOM etc.

[brainbomb]

Well then, that clears up a lot actually

[brainbomb]

so do you think meme is scum or a miller then? or that hes been forged

[rdrivera2005]

Well, I think it's a believable claim.

I also think that the real Cop should CC right now as a 1 x 1 is pretty decent and with no RB they get at least one more scan.

That said, I think voting meme is the obvious choice. Can't see why scum will forge a town to be scum instead of scum to be town, so he is either Miller, scum or Fox is lying.

##vote meme

[brainbomb]

8 VTs, two are millers

if vts all claim meme would be mechanically outed if theres an extra vt