MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[brainbomb]

Which of the bona voters do you find most sus?

Any thoughts on the overwhelming attempt to tiebreak?

Like I said I need to re-read EOD and the reasoning to votes (and on the last minute votes have to re-read previous reads which is more time consuming). If I am still alive I would try to do this on the weekend.

Looking only the votes and timing Fox, you and Bozo are the ones I would look more carefully.

rivera youve been calling for bozos head all game. can you explain what is so different about him in this game than in past games?

also why was fox on your radar back then, he is also still alive

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Week, first of all RIP Durga and Kgray. I was townreading both (and had a feeling Durga might be PR, but she was scum PR). Kgray was so obvious NK target that I really don't get what our Doctor was doing.

I think scum is targeting people that won't be DKed and that are good at scum hunting/pushing. Maybe they are just targeting PRs, but I doubt.

Considering this I understand why people are voting Ghug. I just don't have this confidence and I suck at reading him. I still think Flum might be scum here, considering the NKs.

Another scum possibility is Bozo, I don't like how his reads don't seem to evolve and how he can't consider other motivations for lfishcl saying he didn't play with Ghug.

I don't know if Fox is buddying me, but it's working, I don't want to kill him anymore

##vote Bozo

this sort of looks like rivera is scum from the durga and flum
team

[rdrivera2005]

meme and macca are town here too.

so that really just leaves bozo. fox. rivera. sabi.

and im leaning flyingboat as town too

You don't think meme could be on ghugs team?

no, I do not. meme is town

I think you are thinking the same as me, that's why I am not going after him.

[rdrivera2005]

Week, first of all RIP Durga and Kgray. I was townreading both (and had a feeling Durga might be PR, but she was scum PR). Kgray was so obvious NK target that I really don't get what our Doctor was doing.

I think scum is targeting people that won't be DKed and that are good at scum hunting/pushing. Maybe they are just targeting PRs, but I doubt.

Considering this I understand why people are voting Ghug. I just don't have this confidence and I suck at reading him. I still think Flum might be scum here, considering the NKs.

Another scum possibility is Bozo, I don't like how his reads don't seem to evolve and how he can't consider other motivations for lfishcl saying he didn't play with Ghug.

I don't know if Fox is buddying me, but it's working, I don't want to kill him anymore

##vote Bozo

this sort of looks like rivera is scum from the durga and flum
team

Do you really think I vote Flum both days if I am in a team with him?

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##vote rdrivera

[rdrivera2005]

Which of the bona voters do you find most sus?

Any thoughts on the overwhelming attempt to tiebreak?

Like I said I need to re-read EOD and the reasoning to votes (and on the last minute votes have to re-read previous reads which is more time consuming). If I am still alive I would try to do this on the weekend.

Looking only the votes and timing Fox, you and Bozo are the ones I would look more carefully.

rivera youve been calling for bozos head all game. can you explain what is so different about him in this game than in past games?

also why was fox on your radar back then, he is also still alive

That's exactly what I am telling in this message and on the last ones. I think Fox, Bozo and Snowy (that we know now were town) were the key responsible for Bona's death (and for saving Flum).
I am happy with Fox wagon, but I don't want to just lose the day without another wagon. Probably won't work anyway.

[brainbomb]

Week, first of all RIP Durga and Kgray. I was townreading both (and had a feeling Durga might be PR, but she was scum PR). Kgray was so obvious NK target that I really don't get what our Doctor was doing.

I think scum is targeting people that won't be DKed and that are good at scum hunting/pushing. Maybe they are just targeting PRs, but I doubt.

Considering this I understand why people are voting Ghug. I just don't have this confidence and I suck at reading him. I still think Flum might be scum here, considering the NKs.

Another scum possibility is Bozo, I don't like how his reads don't seem to evolve and how he can't consider other motivations for lfishcl saying he didn't play with Ghug.

I don't know if Fox is buddying me, but it's working, I don't want to kill him anymore

##vote Bozo

this sort of looks like rivera is scum from the durga and flum
team

Do you really think I vote Flum both days if I am in a team with him?

sure if you are the deep asset why not?

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rivera you and I both know that you always go the long distance in these games. you survive to the end as scum more than anyone because you fly under the radar and position yourself to reach the endgame and your team banks on that. i know this from being scum with you multiple times

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15. Rdrivera2005
Town. Did not give a shit who was daykilled. Just making wagons for fun. Very strong town vibes to not have passionate scum reads after day 1 and focusing more on generating info. If he is scum, I don't think any of his partners were close to be bloc.

this is bloody hilarious. its shading you right and left but calls you town. none of these facts listed are reasons you would townread anyone

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Wait, was anyone roleblocked?

There's a roleblock and bozo didn't even mention it?

What does the RB have to do with me? Are you claiming you did not know there was a roleblocker?

ghug is not with bozo

[bozotheclown]

If ghug, Durga, and Fluminator never voted for a teammate, Foxcastle's list get reduced to this:

Of everyone in this game, Ghug and Flum are the two of the most likely to vote for a team mate.

I looked at ghug's history of bussing D1 in a recent game, and he typically does not vote for his teammates D1. I looked at M59, the only game where I have seen Fluminator as mafia, and he did vote for 2 of his teammates D1, so you may be right about him.

[rdrivera2005]

rivera you and I both know that you always go the long distance in these games. you survive to the end as scum more than anyone because you fly under the radar and position yourself to reach the endgame and your team banks on that. i know this from being scum with you multiple times

Brain, you are right that I usually play under the radar as scum. But this is not the case on this game because I am not playing under the radar and because I am not scum.

If I am the lone wolf why I am tryng to shake things up instead of just laying low like almost all other players and just let Fox hang?

Push me of you want, like I said it's better to have a real day then a runaway wagon.

[brainbomb]

I read your ISO and it isnt that bad. can you expand on what pinged you about squiggs?

[brainbomb]

what about foxs play is giving you cause for concern here?

[bozotheclown]

From D1 EOD:

I'd rather it be Bona over flum or ghug at this point.

##VOTE BONA

Bona will probably tie it if he doesn't get at least another vote.

The second comment is interesting because Fluminator was not voting for Bonatogether yet either.

You think I tried to save my teammates that blatantly but also that pathetically?

If so, I do not think it was too blatant, and Fluminator did avoid the DK.

Why were you concerned with Bonatogether not voting for his counter wagon but not Fluminator?

[bozotheclown]

Fox you still need to vote. Do you think damo or Bozo is more likely mafia here?

This seems like an unnecessarily leading question.

[brainbomb]

im still waiting for rivera and squiggs to explain what fox has done that is towny today. and why they are fighting tooth and nail to keep him alive. acting like our christmas will be soured if we end hammer him

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##Call GM
if a forger targets a miller and alters their papers would a miller appear as town instead in that scenario or does the forger always just change papers to a guilty even if that person is already a guilty?

[bozotheclown]

Like I said I need to re-read EOD and the reasoning to votes (and on the last minute votes have to re-read previous reads which is more time consuming). If I am still alive I would try to do this on the weekend.

Looking only the votes and timing Fox, you and Bozo are the ones I would look more carefully.

rivera youve been calling for bozos head all game. can you explain what is so different about him in this game than in past games?

also why was fox on your radar back then, he is also still alive

That's exactly what I am telling in this message and on the last ones. I think Fox, Bozo and Snowy (that we know now were town) were the key responsible for Bona's death (and for saving Flum).
I am happy with Fox wagon, but I don't want to just lose the day without another wagon. Probably won't work anyway.

Why do you think I was responsible for Bonatogether DK? Bonatogether was ahead 7-4 when I voted for him, and you ignored Squigs voting for Bonatogether when it was only 5-4.

[brainbomb]

actually wtf
bozo is right; I was the most responsible for bonas death how am I not a prime suspect in that vein