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#3201 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:28 am

Was it determined that Meme couldn't be Kolechian with Durga and Flum?

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#3202 Post by Squigs44 » Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:29 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:19 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:24 pm
Mafia team predictions:

bozo: lfischl/ghug/snowy, Foxcastle/Fluminator
Squigs: TFB/lfischl/Macca, captainmeme/damo
TheFlyingBoat: Macca/captainmeme/ghug, Fluminator/Foxcastle
ghug: bozo/Tom/Fluminator, captainmeme/Macca
rdrivera: Fluminator/Foxcastle/Squigs, captainmeme/bozo
Foxcastle: Tom/bozo/brainbomb, lfischl/TFB
brainbomb: Fluminator/lfischl/Macca, BesharamSabi/Squigs
BesharamSabi: damo/snowy/Fluminator, rdrivera/lfischl
Tom: TFB/brainbomb/captainmeme, ghug/lfischl
snowy: Fluminator/Tom/Macca/damo/TFB
damo: ghug/captainmeme/snowy, Squigs/TFB
lfischl: ghug/Macca/Fluminator/?/?
Macca: Squigs/BesharamSabi/Tom, ghug/snowy
Fluminator: Macca/snowy/?, captainmeme/?
TheFlyingBoat and lfischl are leading the competition with 2 correct picks and no proven incorrect picks. Squigs and Foxcastle are the only players (besides captainmeme) to not get any correct yet.
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Also why did I have to take Flum off my list, that's the freebie everyone else got

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#3203 Post by Squigs44 » Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:29 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:28 am
Was it determined that Meme couldn't be Kolechian with Durga and Flum?
Unlikely but still possible. However, Brain cannot given the RB claim

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#3204 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:35 am

captainmeme wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:40 pm
real talk though don't we maybe just have autowin right now with a massclaim

obv don't actually massclaim til we've talked it through but like

there's no way ezic would have held a rb when they could use it to test for the kolechian, so bb is clear

ifschisal is clear

we've got two cops who could out with up to 4 scans

that seems pretty autowin to me
With two millers and a Framer the cop scans aren't that useful and the vanilla cop won't also help much. With two night kills it isn't auto for sure. If we eliminate one team then maybe it's auto tomorrow, but I need to check the math.

##vote Fox

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#3205 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:36 am

Squigs44 wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:58 pm
captainmeme wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:40 pm
real talk though don't we maybe just have autowin right now with a massclaim

obv don't actually massclaim til we've talked it through but like

there's no way ezic would have held a rb when they could use it to test for the kolechian, so bb is clear

ifschisal is clear

we've got two cops who could out with up to 4 scans

that seems pretty autowin to me
Brain is only cleared from one team

There's 11 people left. If we massclaim we have 4 PRs cleared then 3 scum and 4 VTs. Worst case scenario we DK a VT back to back days and the 2 scum teams kill all 4 of our PRs leaving 3 scum and 2 VTs left. So no, not even close to autowin
Yep, I think you are right. Have you done the math if we kill the last Kolechian?

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#3206 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:41 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:19 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:24 pm
Mafia team predictions:

bozo: lfischl/ghug/snowy, Foxcastle/Fluminator
Squigs: TFB/lfischl/Macca, captainmeme/damo
TheFlyingBoat: Macca/captainmeme/ghug, Fluminator/Foxcastle
ghug: bozo/Tom/Fluminator, captainmeme/Macca
rdrivera: Fluminator/Foxcastle/Squigs, captainmeme/bozo
Foxcastle: Tom/bozo/brainbomb, lfischl/TFB
brainbomb: Fluminator/lfischl/Macca, BesharamSabi/Squigs
BesharamSabi: damo/snowy/Fluminator, rdrivera/lfischl
Tom: TFB/brainbomb/captainmeme, ghug/lfischl
snowy: Fluminator/Tom/Macca/damo/TFB
damo: ghug/captainmeme/snowy, Squigs/TFB
lfischl: ghug/Macca/Fluminator/?/?
Macca: Squigs/BesharamSabi/Tom, ghug/snowy
Fluminator: Macca/snowy/?, captainmeme/?
TheFlyingBoat and lfischl are leading the competition with 2 correct picks and no proven incorrect picks. Squigs and Foxcastle are the only players (besides captainmeme) to not get any correct yet.
And this is the Weakest Link! [/AnneRobinson]

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#3207 Post by brainbomb » Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:42 am

So the POE is damo, flyingboat, fox, macca, sabi

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#3208 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:44 am

brainbomb wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:36 pm
##vote theflyingboat
Damn I nail Flum of the Kolechians and Ghug of the Ezic in my reads and I still can't buy a town read :lol: what does a man got to do to get some cred around here?

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#3209 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:45 am

brainbomb wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:35 pm
Macca seems pretty cleared by this
Why?

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#3210 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:46 am

I think a mass claim would probably be a good thing, but not because it would be auto-win. 4 town clears and whatever information the cops have will give us the best chance of DKing mafia today, and with the roleblocker, driver, and enforcer gone, the cop is sure to get another scan N3 with the doctor knowing who to protect. Also, if a PR is forced to claim at EOD again, it would likely result in another scramble that would get a town mis-killed, or possibly an unavailable PR.

There are too many variables to say it will definitely help us, especially not knowing what the cops have found out, but I support a mass claim if that is the consensus.

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#3211 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:48 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:46 am
I think a mass claim would probably be a good thing, but not because it would be auto-win. 4 town clears and whatever information the cops have will give us the best chance of DKing mafia today, and with the roleblocker, driver, and enforcer gone, the cop is sure to get another scan N3 with the doctor knowing who to protect. Also, if a PR is forced to claim at EOD again, it would likely result in another scramble that would get a town mis-killed, or possibly an unavailable PR.

There are too many variables to say it will definitely help us, especially not knowing what the cops have found out, but I support a mass claim if that is the consensus.
I mean up to 2 scans could be forgeries though the odds of two of the four being forgeries is pretty low.

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#3212 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:49 am

captainmeme wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:04 am
Squigs44 wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:58 pm
captainmeme wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:40 pm
real talk though don't we maybe just have autowin right now with a massclaim

obv don't actually massclaim til we've talked it through but like

there's no way ezic would have held a rb when they could use it to test for the kolechian, so bb is clear

ifschisal is clear

we've got two cops who could out with up to 4 scans

that seems pretty autowin to me
Brain is only cleared from one team

There's 11 people left. If we massclaim we have 4 PRs cleared then 3 scum and 4 VTs. Worst case scenario we DK a VT back to back days and the 2 scum teams kill all 4 of our PRs leaving 3 scum and 2 VTs left. So no, not even close to autowin
brain is cleared from both teams

if he was kolechian there would not have been a second nk

if he was ezic there would be an rb cc unless they held, and holding is ridiculous since they could use rb to search for the kolechian
That is exactly why holding and claiming the RB would be a good scum play.

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#3213 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:51 am

TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:48 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:46 am
I think a mass claim would probably be a good thing, but not because it would be auto-win. 4 town clears and whatever information the cops have will give us the best chance of DKing mafia today, and with the roleblocker, driver, and enforcer gone, the cop is sure to get another scan N3 with the doctor knowing who to protect. Also, if a PR is forced to claim at EOD again, it would likely result in another scramble that would get a town mis-killed, or possibly an unavailable PR.

There are too many variables to say it will definitely help us, especially not knowing what the cops have found out, but I support a mass claim if that is the consensus.
I mean up to 2 scans could be forgeries though the odds of two of the four being forgeries is pretty low.
Yes, the cop scans are not that valuable, I am not sure if that makes a mass claim more or less beneficial though.

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#3214 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:57 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:51 am
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:48 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:46 am
I think a mass claim would probably be a good thing, but not because it would be auto-win. 4 town clears and whatever information the cops have will give us the best chance of DKing mafia today, and with the roleblocker, driver, and enforcer gone, the cop is sure to get another scan N3 with the doctor knowing who to protect. Also, if a PR is forced to claim at EOD again, it would likely result in another scramble that would get a town mis-killed, or possibly an unavailable PR.

There are too many variables to say it will definitely help us, especially not knowing what the cops have found out, but I support a mass claim if that is the consensus.
I mean up to 2 scans could be forgeries though the odds of two of the four being forgeries is pretty low.
Yes, the cop scans are not that valuable, I am not sure if that makes a mass claim more or less beneficial though.
I would say for us to wait another day and cop(s) tell her results at next EON. At least one of them will have a 3rd scan and a 4th one if Doc still alive. The biggest risk is the two NKs so killing last Kolechian seems the way to go. I am torn between Fox and Sabi.


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#3216 Post by BesharamSabi » Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:03 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:57 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:51 am
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:48 am


I mean up to 2 scans could be forgeries though the odds of two of the four being forgeries is pretty low.
Yes, the cop scans are not that valuable, I am not sure if that makes a mass claim more or less beneficial though.
I would say for us to wait another day and cop(s) tell her results at next EON. At least one of them will have a 3rd scan and a 4th one if Doc still alive. The biggest risk is the two NKs so killing last Kolechian seems the way to go. I am torn between Fox and Sabi.
Woah hold up, when did you change your tune in regards to me.

Also why is cops a girl? There is no she/her left in the game 🤔

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#3217 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:04 am

Sabi and Brain, why specifically are you voting me?

(Rdrivera is always wrong about me, so that explains that, and I suspect Meme is being opportunistic because he knows there's a lot of interest in seeing him flip.)

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#3218 Post by BesharamSabi » Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:09 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:04 am
Sabi and Brain, why specifically are you voting me?

(Rdrivera is always wrong about me, so that explains that, and I suspect Meme is being opportunistic because he knows there's a lot of interest in seeing him flip.)
A couple of reasons:

Durga interactions with you

So far tfb predictions are coming true

Just vibes. The ghug killing comes off as someone who isn't an absentee scum player. So has to be someone on flum/durga level.

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#3219 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:10 am

BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:03 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:57 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:51 am


Yes, the cop scans are not that valuable, I am not sure if that makes a mass claim more or less beneficial though.
I would say for us to wait another day and cop(s) tell her results at next EON. At least one of them will have a 3rd scan and a 4th one if Doc still alive. The biggest risk is the two NKs so killing last Kolechian seems the way to go. I am torn between Fox and Sabi.
Woah hold up, when did you change your tune in regards to me.

Also why is cops a girl? There is no she/her left in the game 🤔
O
Because somehow I wrote her instead of their. Maybe it was the auto typing on the phone or maybe just my bad English.

About you, the main thing was the vote on Bona when Flum was getting traction on D1. I think one of you tried to save Flum. I think Fox is more likely and this is why I am voting him.

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#3220 Post by Squigs44 » Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:11 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:36 am
Squigs44 wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:58 pm
captainmeme wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:40 pm
real talk though don't we maybe just have autowin right now with a massclaim

obv don't actually massclaim til we've talked it through but like

there's no way ezic would have held a rb when they could use it to test for the kolechian, so bb is clear

ifschisal is clear

we've got two cops who could out with up to 4 scans

that seems pretty autowin to me
Brain is only cleared from one team

There's 11 people left. If we massclaim we have 4 PRs cleared then 3 scum and 4 VTs. Worst case scenario we DK a VT back to back days and the 2 scum teams kill all 4 of our PRs leaving 3 scum and 2 VTs left. So no, not even close to autowin
Yep, I think you are right. Have you done the math if we kill the last Kolechian?
Not yet, we can do that math if we get there

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