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Wow.... that sounds... wowish. I personally like this.bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:35 pmTry whatever service(s) yall want to first and see if they’re a good replacement (or maybe even better than QT) but if it just isn’t working out I can probably build a generic, no-auth, lightweight QuickTopic clone in a couple of days. Or a couple of months at my typical “this side project should take me a couple of days” pace of like 30 minutes a week.
One of the advantages of QuickTopic was that its usage was high enough that one couldn't brute force their way to a specific mafia thread without having been given access. This is doable, but I'd hesitate to assume it's trivial.bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:35 pmTry whatever service(s) yall want to first and see if they’re a good replacement (or maybe even better than QT) but if it just isn’t working out I can probably build a generic, no-auth, lightweight QuickTopic clone in a couple of days. Or a couple of months at my typical “this side project should take me a couple of days” pace of like 30 minutes a week.
UUID game thread IDs :shrug:ghug wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:46 pmOne of the advantages of QuickTopic was that its usage was high enough that one couldn't brute force their way to a specific mafia thread without having been given access. This is doable, but I'd hesitate to assume it's trivial.bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:35 pmTry whatever service(s) yall want to first and see if they’re a good replacement (or maybe even better than QT) but if it just isn’t working out I can probably build a generic, no-auth, lightweight QuickTopic clone in a couple of days. Or a couple of months at my typical “this side project should take me a couple of days” pace of like 30 minutes a week.
How do you know it couldn't be brute forced? Did you try?ghug wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:46 pmOne of the advantages of QuickTopic was that its usage was high enough that one couldn't brute force their way to a specific mafia thread without having been given access. This is doable, but I'd hesitate to assume it's trivial.bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:35 pmTry whatever service(s) yall want to first and see if they’re a good replacement (or maybe even better than QT) but if it just isn’t working out I can probably build a generic, no-auth, lightweight QuickTopic clone in a couple of days. Or a couple of months at my typical “this side project should take me a couple of days” pace of like 30 minutes a week.
I believe I tried the first time I was scum because I was skeptical of the system.Fluminator wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:07 amHow do you know it couldn't be brute forced? Did you try?ghug wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:46 pmOne of the advantages of QuickTopic was that its usage was high enough that one couldn't brute force their way to a specific mafia thread without having been given access. This is doable, but I'd hesitate to assume it's trivial.bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:35 pmTry whatever service(s) yall want to first and see if they’re a good replacement (or maybe even better than QT) but if it just isn’t working out I can probably build a generic, no-auth, lightweight QuickTopic clone in a couple of days. Or a couple of months at my typical “this side project should take me a couple of days” pace of like 30 minutes a week.
I've tried numerous times as GM just because I was so paranoidghug wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:57 amI believe I tried the first time I was scum because I was skeptical of the system.Fluminator wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:07 amHow do you know it couldn't be brute forced? Did you try?
Doom you can't quit on mafia as soon as I finally get better at playing itDoom427 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:14 pmI was planning on taking a break from webdip/mafia regardless for a little bit, but discord is just not a forum I like, at all. I don't really want to register for an account, especially at a massive site like that where I would use it for other things too. A replacement site sounds amazing @bo
But if it ends up just being discord I will probably get struck by the urge to play again at some point and just make an account.
The only real way around that would be forcing people to sign in. It sounds like nobody wants that. Like Chaqa said, a randomized UUID makes it pretty much impossible to just guess a URL but I am open to other suggestions.ghug wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:46 pmOne of the advantages of QuickTopic was that its usage was high enough that one couldn't brute force their way to a specific mafia thread without having been given access. This is doable, but I'd hesitate to assume it's trivial.bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:35 pmTry whatever service(s) yall want to first and see if they’re a good replacement (or maybe even better than QT) but if it just isn’t working out I can probably build a generic, no-auth, lightweight QuickTopic clone in a couple of days. Or a couple of months at my typical “this side project should take me a couple of days” pace of like 30 minutes a week.
I mean you already have enough access as a webdip admin to read role PMs if you really wanted to, so if you were going to cheat, I dont think this would be the way you'd do it. I also know you well enough to know that you'd never go through that effort just to win an internet mafia game.bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:34 pmThe only real way around that would be forcing people to sign in. It sounds like nobody wants that. Like Chaqa said, a randomized UUID makes it pretty much impossible to just guess a URL but I am open to other suggestions.ghug wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:46 pmOne of the advantages of QuickTopic was that its usage was high enough that one couldn't brute force their way to a specific mafia thread without having been given access. This is doable, but I'd hesitate to assume it's trivial.bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:35 pmTry whatever service(s) yall want to first and see if they’re a good replacement (or maybe even better than QT) but if it just isn’t working out I can probably build a generic, no-auth, lightweight QuickTopic clone in a couple of days. Or a couple of months at my typical “this side project should take me a couple of days” pace of like 30 minutes a week.
I was expecting someone to point out that I could read the database to find different chatrooms and cheat that way, which is a perfectly valid concern. I’m open to suggestions on that end as well, but regardless of any query monitoring or secondary access I grant to someone who could keep an eye on me I don’t think there is any way to make this work without simply asking for everyone to trust me. And I’m me, so that’s a big ask.
The GM usually has access to the QT.Durga wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:10 amI've tried numerous times as GM just because I was so paranoidghug wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:57 amI believe I tried the first time I was scum because I was skeptical of the system.Fluminator wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:07 am
How do you know it couldn't be brute forced? Did you try?
UUID's aren't cryptographically secure, but yeah, I guess if we're not considering auth there's really no way around that.bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:34 pmThe only real way around that would be forcing people to sign in. It sounds like nobody wants that. Like Chaqa said, a randomized UUID makes it pretty much impossible to just guess a URL but I am open to other suggestions.ghug wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:46 pmOne of the advantages of QuickTopic was that its usage was high enough that one couldn't brute force their way to a specific mafia thread without having been given access. This is doable, but I'd hesitate to assume it's trivial.bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:35 pmTry whatever service(s) yall want to first and see if they’re a good replacement (or maybe even better than QT) but if it just isn’t working out I can probably build a generic, no-auth, lightweight QuickTopic clone in a couple of days. Or a couple of months at my typical “this side project should take me a couple of days” pace of like 30 minutes a week.
I was expecting someone to point out that I could read the database to find different chatrooms and cheat that way, which is a perfectly valid concern. I’m open to suggestions on that end as well, but regardless of any query monitoring or secondary access I grant to someone who could keep an eye on me I don’t think there is any way to make this work without simply asking for everyone to trust me. And I’m me, so that’s a big ask.
But didn't that give our special roles hiding ability? Like walkie-talkie?
i like thisbozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:29 amI have set up the following as a test, if anyone wants to try it out.
xoyondo.com/mb/2o1iIKvsd1X5uqM