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Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:55 pm
by DeathLlama8
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:54 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:43 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:19 pm
You're right sorry. I miscounted.
Is it stupid that I want to townread you for this?
No, but, is it stupid I want to townread DL for responding so quickly to correct me? (When what I was mistakenly proposing would, if anything, have been to scum's benefit).
kinda, it’s not like everyone else would’ve also miscounted
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:55 pm
by ghug
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:54 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:43 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:19 pm
You're right sorry. I miscounted.
Is it stupid that I want to townread you for this?
No, but, is it stupid I want to townread DL for responding so quickly to correct me? (When what I was mistakenly proposing would, if anything, have been to scum's benefit).
There's no way that slips by the whole town, so I don't see any reason for scum not to answer honestly.
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:57 pm
by damo666
DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:55 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:54 pm
DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:36 pm
isn't this pretty biased against people who have been wagons in the past?
other way round if anything
Yeah I meant biased against targeting people who have been wagons (so like implicitly townreading them more)
I guess so yes.
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:59 pm
by Bonatogether
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:54 pm
Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:33 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:26 pm
It's a count of the number of players the named player(s) cannot (imo) be scum with. So you are the unlikeliest scum (though you could be with any of Sabi, ghug or Jamie).
The higher the number the less effient a vote is.
Even if your methodology is sound (haven't checked), I don't think this a good metric to vote by. Vote for scum
I believe I am
did you post reasons other than this weird list?
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:06 pm
by Jamiet99uk
ghug wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:55 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:54 pm
ghug wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:43 pm
Is it stupid that I want to townread you for this?
No, but, is it stupid I want to townread DL for responding so quickly to correct me? (When what I was mistakenly proposing would, if anything, have been to scum's benefit).
There's no way that slips by the whole town, so I don't see any reason for scum not to answer honestly.
It wasn't the answer itself, it was the speed of the answer.
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:07 pm
by dargorygel
@bozo
Regarding your present vote on ghug... is it simply that you most strongly read ghug as scum, or that you particularly think others will follow you there (here) and save you?
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:16 pm
by damo666
damo666 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:25 am
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:05 am
How is this 28 pages long already?
Because Sabi is asking lots of silly hypothetical questions. It's either tryharding or cover for having drawn scum for the first time.
For Bona
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:20 pm
by dargorygel
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:16 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:25 am
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:05 am
How is this 28 pages long already?
Because Sabi is asking lots of silly hypothetical questions. It's either tryharding or cover for having drawn scum for the first time.
For Bona
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:20 pm
by dargorygel
dargorygel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:20 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:16 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:25 am
Because Sabi is asking lots of silly hypothetical questions. It's either tryharding or cover for having drawn scum for the first time.
For Bona
Pro bona
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:30 pm
by Jamiet99uk
dargorygel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:20 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:16 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:25 am
Because Sabi is asking lots of silly hypothetical questions. It's either tryharding or cover for having drawn scum for the first time.
For Bona
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:31 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:31 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:36 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Sorry, I just (a) wondered why Darg was quoting things without adding any comment of his own and (b) wondered what happened if you repeatedly nested naked quotes.
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:37 pm
by Jamiet99uk
@Damo: Please can you explain why it is impossible for Dargorygel and Bozo to be scum together?
I'd like to understand how you populated your list, so let's start with that one.
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:40 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Remaining players ranked Scum(top) to Town(bottom) at a glance from my current viewpoint:
bozotheclown
Bonatogether
dargorygel
ghug
damo666
BesharamSabi
DeathLlama8
Squigs44
Jamiet99uk
I want to re-read Worcej/Darg, and Damo, but I may not have time to do that tonight.
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:45 pm
by ghug
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:54 pm
by bozotheclown
DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:18 pm
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:38 am
It is scum indicative because snowy should have been obviously town to anyone experienced in playing with him.
Why does this implicate ghug specifically? You later say that
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:48 pm
No, I do not think that every player that voted for snowy or scum read me is scum, but I think all of the scum either voted for snowy, scum read me, or both.
But the list of players who haven't voted for snowy or scumread you is just you so idk what this is meant to say
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:15 pm
SABI none
BONA Bozo Darg DL Squig
BOZO Bona DL ghug
DARG Bozo
DL Bona Bozo
GHUG Bozo
Jamie none
SQUIGS Bona
Why do you think any of this? What are your least likely teammate pairings? Do you think this is a good way to find mafia today?
dargorygel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:12 pm
Llama who does not know me and ghug who does are both voting for me because I am playing the exact way I always do.
How do you think you're playing?
ghug is probably the most experienced playing mafia with snowy.
I was stating the obvious because the point of Bonatogether's comment seemed to be that I was only scum reading players who were scum reading me or snowy, and my point was that I did not have a choice.
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:01 pm
by Bonatogether
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:16 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:25 am
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:05 am
How is this 28 pages long already?
Because Sabi is asking lots of silly hypothetical questions. It's either tryharding or cover for having drawn scum for the first time.
For Bona
that was d1?
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:04 pm
by damo666
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:20 pm
damo666 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:15 pm
A list of players and who I think are unlikely scum partners
SABI none
BONA Bozo Darg DL Squig
BOZO Bona DL ghug
DARG Bona
DL Bona Bozo
GHUG Bozo
Jamie none
SQUIGS Bona
Tidied this up.
0 Sabi, Jamie
1 ghug, Squigs, darg
2 DL
3 Bozo
4 Bona
Version 3.
Should only be Bona on darg list, not Bozo
Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:05 pm
by damo666
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:37 pm
@Damo: Please can you explain why it is impossible for Dargorygel and Bozo to be scum together?
I'd like to understand how you populated your list, so let's start with that one.
See revised list. You spotted my error.