M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[bozotheclown]

Hi darg are you gone? What did you think of worcej?

Actually, that is a good question.
I did not pay as much attention to him, of course, as I read.

I might have voted for him, out of angst. I tend to dislike escalation. And his(my?) vote was clearly defending bona. So I am wrestling with that, despite my vote.

I didn't see anything scumindicative, though.

Pretty sure worcej was town.

Part, I suppose, of why I am voting bona might be to show that I am NOT protecting bona...

##vote darg

Did you not read that as a joke?

[Bonatogether]

What about D1 EOD makes you suspect DeathLlama?

edit: this became a whole thing

he voted me despite 'having trouble getting signal from high posters like snowy/ghug/bona in general' (his stated reason was 'it's weird that bona is gone actually'/'even when he was around yesterday he kinda just stopped progressing reads in the last few hours')

he also interacts a ton with snowy but has never put out a read on him throughout d1. In his VCA post n1, he hedges a townread ('snowy better', 'snowy has positive signal [but thing] which weakens this a little')

he also never mentions sqoogs, except tangentially.

also why make this post? it's so strange because it's 20 minutes after his previous post, which means that he's really just popping in and saying this, but why is this the thing you want to emphasize?

Assuming you are town, why do you think DeathLlama would move his vote back and forth between you and bo_sox as mafia?

it makes no sense to hold a vote unless you're on crusade against someone. DL was not, so it makes sense that he was moving his vote around.

[Bonatogether]

You and Squigs were both in M39.

how do you find this information? just looking through games? I've tried that and it takes forever

There is a link on the bot to the "Updated Mafia Scoresheet" which is helpful, although it has not been updated recently.

ty

[Bonatogether]

edit: this became a whole thing

he voted me despite 'having trouble getting signal from high posters like snowy/ghug/bona in general' (his stated reason was 'it's weird that bona is gone actually'/'even when he was around yesterday he kinda just stopped progressing reads in the last few hours')

he also interacts a ton with snowy but has never put out a read on him throughout d1. In his VCA post n1, he hedges a townread ('snowy better', 'snowy has positive signal [but thing] which weakens this a little')

he also never mentions sqoogs, except tangentially.

also why make this post? it's so strange because it's 20 minutes after his previous post, which means that he's really just popping in and saying this, but why is this the thing you want to emphasize?

Assuming you are town, why do you think DeathLlama would move his vote back and forth between you and bo_sox as mafia?

Also, do you think this was an attempt at faking a town tell:

wait ##callgm how many mafia are there? setup just says 3 or 4

if dl is scum, then it has to be

3 or 4 pretty clearly means 3 or 4, imo

[bozotheclown]

Hi darg are you gone? What did you think of worcej?

Actually, that is a good question.
I did not pay as much attention to him, of course, as I read.

I might have voted for him, out of angst. I tend to dislike escalation. And his(my?) vote was clearly defending bona. So I am wrestling with that, despite my vote.

I didn't see anything scumindicative, though.

Pretty sure worcej was town.

Part, I suppose, of why I am voting bona might be to show that I am NOT protecting bona...

When you said "I didn't see anything scum indicative", were you talking about Bonatogether or worcej?''

[bozotheclown]

Assuming you are town, why do you think DeathLlama would move his vote back and forth between you and bo_sox as mafia?

Also, do you think this was an attempt at faking a town tell:

wait ##callgm how many mafia are there? setup just says 3 or 4

if dl is scum, then it has to be

3 or 4 pretty clearly means 3 or 4, imo

The setup at the beginning of the signup thread says:

9-10 VT
3-4 goons

I took this to mean there would be 3 mafia if there were 9 town and 4 mafia if there were 10 town. Since we ended up with 13, there is an an ambiguity, and I did not assume that we were not supposed to know the exact number of mafia.

[bozotheclown]

any reason why you're no longer reluctant to wagon him?

Who were you addressing with this D1 post?

[bozotheclown]

yeah it's weird that ##vote bona is gone actually

reread time

Why did you find it odd that Bonatogether was "gone" at that time?

[bozotheclown]

Everyone voted for Bonatogether at some point D1 except Jamie and worcej (and Bonatogether), it would be funny if the scum team was exactly Bonatogether/Jamie/worcej.

[BesharamSabi]

Did we get a clear answer from Eden about how many scum are here?

If not (which is what I think, although I might have missed it)

Some folk doing math on lylo assuming one number or the other might be worth a look.

Woah Woah woah

Well what did Eden tell you was the number of scum? I'm sure he disclosed this to yiu right?

Is this a townslip? Or a fake townslip? Because it would have been told to you when you received the role pm.

Is dargo known for this meta wise @ everyone?

[dargorygel]

Partial answer to sabi
A) I tend have good ‘reads’ early on. I do not announce them early on. But then I look for connections between those reads. I have a yellow legal pad usually with names and arrows and squiggly lines.

I also usually look for those wonderful amazing scumslips and pounce on them.

In general, though, I am not a front line mafscum hunter. I tend more towards attempting to analyze others’ huntings.
B) I thought Bo was scum… I was wrong. I also had ghug high on my list, he has slid down. Mostly because of his reactions to people pushing a bit on him.
C) Too early to be a useful question… all that is gold does not glitter. I expect more from bozo, but into this morning he’s been absent.

[BesharamSabi]

I got roped into being a player-gm for vdl today so I won't be as active today. I will try to catch up when I get eliminated from games. This is not me being scummy or changing my tactics. You can verify this is happening by checking the vwdc discord server lol.

I was originally supposed to just gm the second round this morning but they needed two more players to play so here I am.

Anyway leave me questions and I will answer them when I'm back.

I have good news and bad news.

Good news is a second board got cut so I'm just gming this round for vdl. Yall have me till round three sunglass emoji here.

Bad news is None of you have been asking me stuff. Kinda disappointed but not surprised.

Sidenote I officially have more words than my first game so woo.

[snowy801]

Good morning

allegedly

[bozotheclown]

Did we get a clear answer from Eden about how many scum are here?

If not (which is what I think, although I might have missed it)

Some folk doing math on lylo assuming one number or the other might be worth a look.

Woah Woah woah

Well what did Eden tell you was the number of scum? I'm sure he disclosed this to yiu right?

Is this a townslip? Or a fake townslip? Because it would have been told to you when you received the role pm.

Is dargo known for this meta wise @ everyone?

Why do you think dargorygel would have been directly informed about the number of mafia if he is town?

[dargorygel]

Did we get a clear answer from Eden about how many scum are here?

If not (which is what I think, although I might have missed it)

Some folk doing math on lylo assuming one number or the other might be worth a look.

Woah Woah woah

Well what did Eden tell you was the number of scum? I'm sure he disclosed this to yiu right?

Is this a townslip? Or a fake townslip? Because it would have been told to you when you received the role pm.

Is dargo known for this meta wise @ everyone?

woah woah woah?

My understanding is that there was an unsure number given to us.
Not a townslip... why would it be?

My reason for bringing it up is that i recalled someone making math predictions, which would be difficult since we do not know how many.

Why is this offputting?

[bozotheclown]

Did we get a clear answer from Eden about how many scum are here?

If not (which is what I think, although I might have missed it)

Some folk doing math on lylo assuming one number or the other might be worth a look.

Woah Woah woah

Well what did Eden tell you was the number of scum? I'm sure he disclosed this to yiu right?

Is this a townslip? Or a fake townslip? Because it would have been told to you when you received the role pm.

Is dargo known for this meta wise @ everyone?

woah woah woah?

My understanding is that there was an unsure number given to us.
Not a townslip... why would it be?

My reason for bringing it up is that i recalled someone making math predictions, which would be difficult since we do not know how many.

Why is this offputting?

Not knowing the number of mafia is a town tell, either real or fake.

[snowy801]

Ok it's not that I agree with them but is it not obvious in context that Sabi is visioning darg as being a GM/council member who reviewed setup and knows # of scum roles, bereft of the probable knowledge that darg was more of a bot manager than GM and does not in fact possess this knowledge as the council is a myth?

[BesharamSabi]

Did we get a clear answer from Eden about how many scum are here?

If not (which is what I think, although I might have missed it)

Some folk doing math on lylo assuming one number or the other might be worth a look.

Woah Woah woah

Well what did Eden tell you was the number of scum? I'm sure he disclosed this to yiu right?

Is this a townslip? Or a fake townslip? Because it would have been told to you when you received the role pm.

Is dargo known for this meta wise @ everyone?

Why do you think dargorygel would have been directly informed about the number of mafia if he is town?

I assumed due to being in the council the number of scum would have been disclosed to him by Eden? Even if not disclosed to the council, would Eden disclose this to dargo before he ever got replaced in the game?

At least that's my assumption but I guess I could be wrong and just clutching at straws here. So just ignore me if this is all a reach.

[snowy801]

Kinda goes back to your recent reply to me darg; what I meant to say and its conflict with your interpretation is clearly laid out in plain text. For all that society teaches us to venerate our elders I cannot be held responsible for your reading comprehension. Surely some of the burden must be placed upon you as well?

[snowy801]

bozo how do you feel about the people who wanted to vote you out d1 for not being around and making excuses?