M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[BesharamSabi]

Having read what Celaph has posted overnight (ukwise) I remove him from my pool of 4 potential candidates.

Bo's recent posts do nothing to take him off the list so my vote remains there but can vote worcej or food.

Damo, do you have any additional candidates you'd like to add to the list after rereading, or are you just focusing on taking people off of it?

So I was thinking about this last night. After much thought, I dunno if I feel like scum have protected their own so far this game. At least so far outside of meta reasons. Nothing really stood out as odd to me. Did you feel like their was any interactions that came off that way?

Not particularly, although I think the bozo wagon might be from some mafia feeling pressure and others helping an easy wagon get started.

Riffing off what Jamie caught above, bozo is stale. Stale bozo is very likely scum, as bozo is usually making a number of plays to develop scum-catching frameworks when town.

In the below quote bozo seems to begin a push but never follows it up, as I’d expect town!bozo to do.

He's posted like seven times. If he kept posting and didn't push that, sure, but what are you expecting him to do within seven posts? I also don't really expect any level of read progression within that little content, so I'm not sure why you are. Bozo wagon is kinda sus in general imo

My early prediction of the scum team is celaph/damo/Squigs (and ghug if there are 4 scum).

Also seems bozo very formally addresses the possibility of 4 scum, like he knows there are 3, caught on that town is unsure, and added parenthetical possibility of a fourth to his team.

This is pretty awkward though tbf, nice find

HI death Llama,

I think the bozo wagon might be from some mafia feeling pressure and others helping an easy wagon get started

Well I know you are still in the process of catching up but at the moment no one is on the bozo wagon. What are your thoughts about everyone gradually hopping off bozo wagon after he made the I'm too busy atm but I will be better tomorrow post? What are your thoughts on the worcej wagon that came in it's place? Lastly, I would like you analysis on those that jumped from bozo wagon to other wagons, namely worcej.

As far as I'm concerned Jamiet and I were the first to feel worcej is off so the fact everyone jumped on it now from bozo might be bussing i dunno.

Need your thoughts!

[Squigs44]

Snowy at one point you said you disagreed with everything worcej said, but when pressed said you weren't gonna answer certain questions.

Are you still not going to answer? Cause that kinda conflicts with your equally elusive townread of worcej

[snowy801]

He's at the top of my notepad and that's a good enough reason for me

how did he get there?
also is this like a physical notepad or just a word doc

This is a program notepad

I can't imagine the pain of crossing out and reordering people on a physical notepad

How did he get there? I don't know, but the fact that he got there somehow is sufficiently meritorious that warrants my defense

[BesharamSabi]

He's at the top of my notepad and that's a good enough reason for me

Notepad of what?

What post of his are giving you townie vibes? Could you explain the fact he hasn't posted a comment in 21.5 hours? Snowy I'm on my knees asking you to walk. Us through your thought process.

If not worcej, who would you rather we wagon and why?

[DeathLlama8]

Well I know you are still in the process of catching up but at the moment no one is on the bozo wagon. What are your thoughts about everyone gradually hopping off bozo wagon after he made the I'm too busy atm but I will be better tomorrow post? What are your thoughts on the worcej wagon that came in it's place? Lastly, I would like you analysis on those that jumped from bozo wagon to other wagons, namely worcej.

As far as I'm concerned Jamiet and I were the first to feel worcej is off so the fact everyone jumped on it now from bozo might be bussing i dunno.

Need your thoughts!

I think everyone moving from bozo to worcej (all 3 of them basically did it at the same time) is too coordinated to have multiple mafia on it, but if anyone was using the bozo wagon to protect a teammate then it's plausible that they would hop on the next lurker wagon when bozo wasn't viable. Food initiated the move so I guess that's a positive sign from him. I think Damo looks the worst of the 3.

Why do you think it's bussing?

[snowy801]

Sabi nothing you say will change my stance for another 28 hours, so while I appreciate the effort I tell you now that it is fruitless

@Squigs do you scum read everyone whose opinions differs from your own? Tell me of this conflict that you observe if you please

[BesharamSabi]

Snowy went from I disagree with worcej reads without ever expanding on that and then not talking about worcej at all to now worcej is town once a wagon is forming on him without expanding on why he thinks he's the most townie.

Snowy did do this last time a fellow scum teammate wasn't active.

Either snowy is also scum or he is the least valuable townie we have besides the lurkers.

[snowy801]

He's at the top of my notepad and that's a good enough reason for me

Notepad of what?

What post of his are giving you townie vibes? Could you explain the fact he hasn't posted a comment in 21.5 hours? Snowy I'm on my knees asking you to walk. Us through your thought process.

If not worcej, who would you rather we wagon and why?

The notepad of DOOM

uh I'm still thinking, got some names in my head but I'd rather sort them out first. Still think ghug is scum though so look there first

[damo666]

@DL unless someone obvscums (pretty doubtful) I am happy with my method of pool shrinking.

[DeathLlama8]

He's at the top of my notepad and that's a good enough reason for me

how did he get there?
also is this like a physical notepad or just a word doc

This is a program notepad

I can't imagine the pain of crossing out and reordering people on a physical notepad

How did he get there? I don't know, but the fact that he got there somehow is sufficiently meritorious that warrants my defense

who else is on the notepad?

[snowy801]

how did he get there?
also is this like a physical notepad or just a word doc

This is a program notepad

I can't imagine the pain of crossing out and reordering people on a physical notepad

How did he get there? I don't know, but the fact that he got there somehow is sufficiently meritorious that warrants my defense

who else is on the notepad?

Everyone

[ghug]

He's at the top of my notepad and that's a good enough reason for me

how did he get there?
also is this like a physical notepad or just a word doc

Throwback to the time we made HB post his notes doc.

[DeathLlama8]

who else is on the notepad?

Everyone

what order are they in

[Squigs44]

Sabi nothing you say will change my stance for another 28 hours, so while I appreciate the effort I tell you now that it is fruitless

@Squigs do you scum read everyone whose opinions differs from your own? Tell me of this conflict that you observe if you please

I dont think a disagreement or 2 is grounds for a scumread but I can't imagine disagreeing with every post someone has made and then townreading them.

[snowy801]

who else is on the notepad?

Everyone

what order are they in

Good guys finish first

[worcej]

jamiet: here's my rationale for voting damo based on that post (and also general fluffiness again but that's less alignment indicative)

This feels really forced to me.
- Deciding votes based on what you think a plausible wagon would be ~10 hours into the game is weird
- I don't really see why those players are more likely to obvscum than everyone else
- The general "start with a list of everyone, filter it down, then randvote" doesn't feel like a genuine attempt to find scum.

Which part of this do you not agree with / think is reminiscent of "normal town damo"?

Worcej voted damo for "being asleep" and later said he would save damo n1 - why include him?

are squigs and damo (who you mention in your response to sabi) your two biggest townreads?

Damo in D1 is normally quite un-committed, makes very short posts, doesn't push anyone very hard. The one long post with logic about who to vote for and what wagons are viable is very Damo and isn't AI to me.

You'd have to ask Worcej the second question, not me.

I don't have any super strong townreads yet.

Using this as a reference to my catchup.

Cute that you all want to vote me - I'll have to find the reasons why.

[worcej]

Fun fact I have contributed almost one third of the total word count for this game.

I don't think I can sustain this much effort the whole game but I'm going to keep trying I suppose.

What does this say about my game and the overall game if I'm almost one third of the words?

Also what Ethiopian dishes should I order?

Word count is irrelevant.

[ghug]

Snowy, I need to know why you scumread me so that I can form a read on you please and thank you.

[BesharamSabi]

Well I know you are still in the process of catching up but at the moment no one is on the bozo wagon. What are your thoughts about everyone gradually hopping off bozo wagon after he made the I'm too busy atm but I will be better tomorrow post? What are your thoughts on the worcej wagon that came in it's place? Lastly, I would like you analysis on those that jumped from bozo wagon to other wagons, namely worcej.

As far as I'm concerned Jamiet and I were the first to feel worcej is off so the fact everyone jumped on it now from bozo might be bussing i dunno.

Need your thoughts!

I think everyone moving from bozo to worcej (all 3 of them basically did it at the same time) is too coordinated to have multiple mafia on it, but if anyone was using the bozo wagon to protect a teammate then it's plausible that they would hop on the next lurker wagon when bozo wasn't viable. Food initiated the move so I guess that's a positive sign from him. I think Damo looks the worst of the 3.

Why do you think it's bussing?

Any reason why you think the jump was too coordinated to be mafia?

I don't put weight on food votes since they are sporadic and random. On the other hand, Damo did pop out of nowhere when the three jumped off which to me is raising some sus vibes.

I think scum feel like due to his inactivity and lack of engagement he is being dead weight for the scum team and that this is the best opportunity to get him out of here.

Then again I could be wrong so who knows.

[worcej]

I think I disagree with everything worcej said this game

Considering most of it was shitposts, NAI

Does it not strike you as odd that someone would specifically say that they disagree with you when the only content there were shitposts?

Yes, this is why I am voting snowy.