M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

So Damo you think:

The three main D1 wagons were T v T v T.
The three main D2 wagons were T v T v T.

You don't think a scum has even been close to being on the block either EoD so far?

Yes quite possible unless Bozo is scum. I don't think Bona is.

Of the people still alive in the game:

The person who attracted the least votes on D1 was DeathLlama (none)

The people who attracted the least votes on D2 were Sabi and, remarkably, me (none).

If you think that scum have been in absolutely no danger of being day killed, why are Darg and Ghug ahead of DL in your list of suspects?

[BesharamSabi]

Hey yall I'm still rereading those three I mentioned before so that why I haven't posted much today. Going to friendsgiving tonight but I will try to post more.

Damo can you explain why my questions were so bad at the start of the game? Bona was right about me learning from everyone's feedback in the last game.

Bozo once again your posts are like cotton candy. Fluffy and with no substance. Just words.

Jamie and everyone else, why are yall wasting time thinking of scum team pairings since they are all randomly assigned?

OK love yall, except Eden, he's the worst gm.

[Squigs44]

Hey yall I'm still rereading those three I mentioned before so that why I haven't posted much today. Going to friendsgiving tonight but I will try to post more.

Damo can you explain why my questions were so bad at the start of the game? Bona was right about me learning from everyone's feedback in the last game.

Bozo once again your posts are like cotton candy. Fluffy and with no substance. Just words.

Jamie and everyone else, why are yall wasting time thinking of scum team pairings since they are all randomly assigned?

OK love yall, except Eden, he's the worst gm.

Enjoy your friendsgiving!

That part I bolded makes me think you don't understand a major part of the game, which is weird considering this is your third game.

[bozotheclown]

Hey yall I'm still rereading those three I mentioned before so that why I haven't posted much today. Going to friendsgiving tonight but I will try to post more.

Damo can you explain why my questions were so bad at the start of the game? Bona was right about me learning from everyone's feedback in the last game.

Bozo once again your posts are like cotton candy. Fluffy and with no substance. Just words.

Jamie and everyone else, why are yall wasting time thinking of scum team pairings since they are all randomly assigned?

OK love yall, except Eden, he's the worst gm.

Comments like that are too general to respond to, can you be more specific?

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie and everyone else, why are yall wasting time thinking of scum team pairings since they are all randomly assigned?

I am not spending too much energy trying to think of scum team pairings, however you are missing an important point. Yes, they were randomly assigned, but we are now several days into the game and the scum have had to try to interact with each other in a way that looks natural (in order that it's not obvious to others that they're working together as a team). That organic interaction is easier for some people to fake than others. There are different ways people go about it. Some scum players distance from their scum team-mates. Some scum players bus their scum team-mates for towncred.

These are some things you can sometimes look for, as town, if you want to try to find scum.

[Squigs44]

Damo I know you have your whole scumpair thing, but can you rank your scumreads independent of scumpairs?

[Jamiet99uk]

Hey yall hot rootin' tootin' yee-haw.

Jamie and everyone else, why are yall wasting time thinking of scum team pairings since they are all randomly assigned?

OK love yall, except Eden, he's the worst gm.

Enjoy your friendsgiving!

That part I bolded makes me think you don't understand a major part of the game, which is weird considering this is your third game.

Quite.

[BesharamSabi]

Hey yall I'm still rereading those three I mentioned before so that why I haven't posted much today. Going to friendsgiving tonight but I will try to post more.

Damo can you explain why my questions were so bad at the start of the game? Bona was right about me learning from everyone's feedback in the last game.

Bozo once again your posts are like cotton candy. Fluffy and with no substance. Just words.

Jamie and everyone else, why are yall wasting time thinking of scum team pairings since they are all randomly assigned?

OK love yall, except Eden, he's the worst gm.

Enjoy your friendsgiving!

That part I bolded makes me think you don't understand a major part of the game, which is weird considering this is your third game.

What I mean was I don't get the logic behind saying so and so can't be a scum pair.

Figuring out scum pairs is something I haven't fully grasped as a concept, yes. We have been through this before that I'm pretty dumb and this isn't an act. I just don't get why figuring out scum pair is more important than finding one scum. Atleast if we find one scum it should be easier but right now shooting into a barrel of fish.

[Jamiet99uk]

Damo I know you have your whole scumpair thing, but can you rank your scumreads independent of scumpairs?

He's done that (in response to Bozo's survey).

[BesharamSabi]

Hey yall hot rootin' tootin' yee-haw.

Jamie and everyone else, why are yall wasting time thinking of scum team pairings since they are all randomly assigned?

OK love yall, except Eden, he's the worst gm.

Enjoy your friendsgiving!

That part I bolded makes me think you don't understand a major part of the game, which is weird considering this is your third game.

Quite.

Back to what I asked Squigs. Why are we focusing on scum pairs and not trying to find at least one scum. If we find one scum should it not be easier to figure out pairings? Right now it seems fruitless to figure out pairings when we have yet to catch one scum and we are in day 3.

But regardless you know I'm dumb..

[Jamiet99uk]

Hey yall I'm still rereading those three I mentioned before so that why I haven't posted much today. Going to friendsgiving tonight but I will try to post more.

Damo can you explain why my questions were so bad at the start of the game? Bona was right about me learning from everyone's feedback in the last game.

Bozo once again your posts are like cotton candy. Fluffy and with no substance. Just words.

Jamie and everyone else, why are yall wasting time thinking of scum team pairings since they are all randomly assigned?

OK love yall, except Eden, he's the worst gm.

Enjoy your friendsgiving!

That part I bolded makes me think you don't understand a major part of the game, which is weird considering this is your third game.

What I mean was I don't get the logic behind saying so and so can't be a scum pair.

Figuring out scum pairs is something I haven't fully grasped as a concept, yes. We have been through this before that I'm pretty dumb and this isn't an act. I just don't get why figuring out scum pair is more important than finding one scum. Atleast if we find one scum it should be easier but right now shooting into a barrel of fish.

To some degree Damo is over-emphasising what he's doing because he likes to impress people with his lists and numbers.

He should really say "X and X are less likely to be a scum pairing" than claiming they can't be.

[Jamiet99uk]

Enjoy your friendsgiving!

That part I bolded makes me think you don't understand a major part of the game, which is weird considering this is your third game.

Quite.

Back to what I asked Squigs. Why are we focusing on scum pairs and not trying to find at least one scum. If we find one scum should it not be easier to figure out pairings? Right now it seems fruitless to figure out pairings when we have yet to catch one scum and we are in day 3.

But regardless you know I'm dumb..

That is why I am not putting to much energy into it myself.

I am currently finding scum in the pool of: Bonatogether.

[Squigs44]

Hey yall I'm still rereading those three I mentioned before so that why I haven't posted much today. Going to friendsgiving tonight but I will try to post more.

Damo can you explain why my questions were so bad at the start of the game? Bona was right about me learning from everyone's feedback in the last game.

Bozo once again your posts are like cotton candy. Fluffy and with no substance. Just words.

Jamie and everyone else, why are yall wasting time thinking of scum team pairings since they are all randomly assigned?

OK love yall, except Eden, he's the worst gm.

Enjoy your friendsgiving!

That part I bolded makes me think you don't understand a major part of the game, which is weird considering this is your third game.

What I mean was I don't get the logic behind saying so and so can't be a scum pair.

Figuring out scum pairs is something I haven't fully grasped as a concept, yes. We have been through this before that I'm pretty dumb and this isn't an act. I just don't get why figuring out scum pair is more important than finding one scum. Atleast if we find one scum it should be easier but right now shooting into a barrel of fish.

Trying to find one scum is a very valid way of scumhunting but it's limited. Trying to find scum through scumpairings is a valid way of scumhunting, but it's limited.

Using both methods gives you a much better idea of the game as a whole. And like Jamie said, it's about probability. When I'm scumhunting, I might look at a post and say, that's 70% likely town, 30% likely scum. But when I string together 50 posts like that, the probability compounds (law of large numbers and all that). Same with scumhunting from multiple angles. I'm never sure that X and Y aren't scummates, but I think it's unlikely, so I try to focus on other options that are more likely.

[Bonatogether]

Not in general, pocketing is common, but a lot of players seemed to be scum reading me D2.

so there's a broad consensus that your actions are most likely to have been done by a scum!bozo

what is the fundamental misunderstanding into your thought process or playstyle that you would clear up that is leading to this discrepancy (town!bozo being broadly scumread)?

I am getting the feeling you are scum after all.

answer the question

[Bonatogether]

Now is a good time for everyone to state their best guess at 3 scum and 4 scum mafia teams:

1. bozo: ghug/damo/Jamie, ghug/damo/Jamie/BesharamSabi

why?

To force the mafia to fabricate some reads. Failure to participate is scum indicative.

i'm not sure that this is the best way to go about it

[Squigs44]

Damo I know you have your whole scumpair thing, but can you rank your scumreads independent of scumpairs?

He's done that (in response to Bozo's survey).

He ordered people within his pairings, but he hasn't touched on the individual scuminess/towniness of Bozo and Bona today other than a brief vote on Bozo. It seems like Bozo may have been his highest scumread individually until he did his scumpair analysis but it's difficult to tell

[Bonatogether]

Hey yall I'm still rereading those three I mentioned before so that why I haven't posted much today. Going to friendsgiving tonight but I will try to post more.

Damo can you explain why my questions were so bad at the start of the game? Bona was right about me learning from everyone's feedback in the last game.

Bozo once again your posts are like cotton candy. Fluffy and with no substance. Just words.

Jamie and everyone else, why are yall wasting time thinking of scum team pairings since they are all randomly assigned?

OK love yall, except Eden, he's the worst gm.

Enjoy your friendsgiving!

That part I bolded makes me think you don't understand a major part of the game, which is weird considering this is your third game.

uh, this game has a lot of stuff that it wouldn't be reasonable to expect them to know? I don't know why you're picking on this.

[ghug]

Enjoy your friendsgiving!

That part I bolded makes me think you don't understand a major part of the game, which is weird considering this is your third game.

Quite.

Back to what I asked Squigs. Why are we focusing on scum pairs and not trying to find at least one scum. If we find one scum should it not be easier to figure out pairings? Right now it seems fruitless to figure out pairings when we have yet to catch one scum and we are in day 3.

But regardless you know I'm dumb..

Because it can help narrow down your options. If X only makes sense as scum with Y, then you only have to consider Y today. If Z is scummy as all get out, but nobody makes sense as a teammate, maybe they're actually town. If you scumread A, B, and C, but B and C don't make sense as teammates, maybe A is the call.

[Bonatogether]

Quite.

Back to what I asked Squigs. Why are we focusing on scum pairs and not trying to find at least one scum. If we find one scum should it not be easier to figure out pairings? Right now it seems fruitless to figure out pairings when we have yet to catch one scum and we are in day 3.

But regardless you know I'm dumb..

That is why I am not putting to much energy into it myself.

I am currently finding scum in the pool of: Bonatogether.

vote me then lol

[Squigs44]

Enjoy your friendsgiving!

That part I bolded makes me think you don't understand a major part of the game, which is weird considering this is your third game.

What I mean was I don't get the logic behind saying so and so can't be a scum pair.

Figuring out scum pairs is something I haven't fully grasped as a concept, yes. We have been through this before that I'm pretty dumb and this isn't an act. I just don't get why figuring out scum pair is more important than finding one scum. Atleast if we find one scum it should be easier but right now shooting into a barrel of fish.

Trying to find one scum is a very valid way of scumhunting but it's limited. Trying to find scum through scumpairings is a valid way of scumhunting, but it's limited.

Using both methods gives you a much better idea of the game as a whole. And like Jamie said, it's about probability. When I'm scumhunting, I might look at a post and say, that's 70% likely town, 30% likely scum. But when I string together 50 posts like that, the probability compounds (law of large numbers and all that). Same with scumhunting from multiple angles. I'm never sure that X and Y aren't scummates, but I think it's unlikely, so I try to focus on other options that are more likely.

Oh, and to address the biggest thing wrong with your question, you employed a type of reverse gamblers fallacy. You seemed to assume that because scum were chosen randomly, they would not have left any sort of clues as to who their scummates are.