M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

Hi Damo I had a question for you, thanks mate.

[Bonatogether]

It is scum indicative because snowy should have been obviously town to anyone experienced in playing with him.

Why does this implicate ghug specifically? You later say that

No, I do not think that every player that voted for snowy or scum read me is scum, but I think all of the scum either voted for snowy, scum read me, or both.

But the list of players who haven't voted for snowy or scumread you is just you so idk what this is meant to say

SABI none
BONA Bozo Darg DL Squig
BOZO Bona DL ghug
DARG Bozo
DL Bona Bozo
GHUG Bozo
Jamie none
SQUIGS Bona

Why do you think any of this? What are your least likely teammate pairings? Do you think this is a good way to find mafia today?

Llama who does not know me and ghug who does are both voting for me because I am playing the exact way I always do.

How do you think you're playing?

ghug is probably the most experienced playing mafia with snowy.

I was stating the obvious because the point of Bonatogether's comment seemed to be that I was only scum reading players who were scum reading me or snowy, and my point was that I did not have a choice.

which message was that?

[Jamiet99uk]

@Damo: Please can you explain why it is impossible for Dargorygel and Bozo to be scum together?

I'd like to understand how you populated your list, so let's start with that one.

See revised list. You spotted my error.

Ok let's try another.

How is it impossible for Bonatogether to be scum with any of Bozo, Dargle, D-Llam, or Squiggerino?

[damo666]

Because Sabi is asking lots of silly hypothetical questions. It's either tryharding or cover for having drawn scum for the first time.

For Bona

that was d1?

Yes. See what I said when I voted Sabi. Post 2713.

[damo666]

@Damo: Please can you explain why it is impossible for Dargorygel and Bozo to be scum together?

I'd like to understand how you populated your list, so let's start with that one.

See revised list. You spotted my error.

Ok let's try another.

How is it impossible for Bonatogether to be scum with any of Bozo, Dargle, D-Llam, or Squiggerino?

Not impossible. Unlikely. Vote patterns.

And yes I've heard of bussing.

[Jamiet99uk]

See revised list. You spotted my error.

Ok let's try another.

How is it impossible for Bonatogether to be scum with any of Bozo, Dargle, D-Llam, or Squiggerino?

Not impossible. Unlikely. Vote patterns.

And yes I've heard of bussing.

I don't think your analysis is very meaningful.

Filler.

[damo666]

Ok let's try another.

How is it impossible for Bonatogether to be scum with any of Bozo, Dargle, D-Llam, or Squiggerino?

Not impossible. Unlikely. Vote patterns.

And yes I've heard of bussing.

I don't think your analysis is very meaningful.

Filler.

Well it helps me. Basically it informs me that it is probably unwise to vote Bona or Bozo.

It suggests I should consider voting you but I townread you so I won't. If Sabi doesn't take off I will probably switch to darg or ghug.

[Jamiet99uk]

You were keen on Bona wagons earlier

[Bonatogether]

For Bona

that was d1?

Yes. See what I said when I voted Sabi. Post 2713.

I don't believe that those questions is scum indicative at all. Sabi said that that they would be asking more questions and that they were making a list of thing to ask (iirc) last game when they were getting flak for not asking questions and generally not being very solvey.

[damo666]

You were keen on Bona wagons earlier

Evolution

[Jamiet99uk]

So Damo you think:

The three main D1 wagons were T v T v T.
The three main D2 wagons were T v T v T.

You don't think a scum has even been close to being on the block either EoD so far?

[Jamiet99uk]

1. Bozo: ghug/damo/jamie, ghug/damo/jamie/BesharamSabi
2. Damo: Sabi + 2 from darg/DL/Squigs/ghug (that order), Sabi + 3 of those
3. Dllama - bozo/damo/darg(/ghug)
4. Ghug- jamie/bozo/darg
5. Darg- ghug, bona, damo/ and for a fourth: second ghug, or maybe bozo.
6. JamieT: bozotheclown, Bonatogether, dargor​ygel / and for a fourth: Ghug or Damo.

[bozotheclown]

so we agree people who scumread you are not inherently scum

are all people who are scum inherently scumreading you?

Not in general, pocketing is common, but a lot of players seemed to be scum reading me D2.

so there's a broad consensus that your actions are most likely to have been done by a scum!bozo

what is the fundamental misunderstanding into your thought process or playstyle that you would clear up that is leading to this discrepancy (town!bozo being broadly scumread)?

I am getting the feeling you are scum after all.

[bozotheclown]

Great minds

Maybe snowy was right about DeathLlama also.

this post is beyond scummy

Fun soundbite.

I am trying to be part of the solution.

I am looking for scum.

You are saying a lot of things which do not stack up from a rational thinking perspective.

This causes me to continue to suspect you.

Then who else do you think might be mafia besides me? Even if you were correct, there would be at least 2 others, which you have made no attempt to identify.

i hate this post

If you are not mafia, you have an extreme case of confirmation bias.

[bozotheclown]

Now is a good time for everyone to state their best guess at 3 scum and 4 scum mafia teams:

1. bozo: ghug/damo/Jamie, ghug/damo/Jamie/BesharamSabi

why?

To force the mafia to fabricate some reads. Failure to participate is scum indicative.

[bozotheclown]

Now is a good time for everyone to state their best guess at 3 scum and 4 scum mafia teams:

1. bozo: ghug/damo/Jamie, ghug/damo/Jamie/BesharamSabi

why?

I'll add my voice to this question... assuming you are asking, 'why is NOW the time?'

If not today, it may be too late.

[Jamiet99uk]

##Vote Bonatogether

[bozotheclown]

@bozo
Regarding your present vote on ghug... is it simply that you most strongly read ghug as scum, or that you particularly think others will follow you there (here) and save you?

ghug is my top scum read.

[Jamiet99uk]

Bona has been so sketchy and evasive today. N.a.g.look

[damo666]

So Damo you think:

The three main D1 wagons were T v T v T.
The three main D2 wagons were T v T v T.

You don't think a scum has even been close to being on the block either EoD so far?

Yes quite possible unless Bozo is scum. I don't think Bona is.