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Re: M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#1081 Post by BesharamSabi » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:53 pm

snowy801 wrote:
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Soliciting opinions on death the llama
I think Death Llama boy seems townie so far, his vibes and post have been consistent like the last game. His reads are well thought out so far with solid explanations. He has also been asking me questions and trying to expand my process of thinking about this game. I doubt scum would want me to play this game better.

But this also could be an act and a form of budding from him.

What are your opinions on Llama boy?
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#1082 Post by snowy801 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:53 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:51 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:43 pm
Soliciting opinions on death the llama
I went back thinking llama looked blendy but there’s definitely some juice in there

“Not killing today” is my humble opinion
Why not?

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#1083 Post by bo_sox48 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:53 pm

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Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:41 pm
Well I just mean the interesting things in mafia are information. I guess the drama and flaming are also interesting, but not game related. So for my brain I didn’t contradict or misread you… saying you’re interested in worcej wagon means it will provide interesting information. Nothing else would really make sense to my mind.

I take your point to mean pressuring worcej will create information, whereas pressuring bozo will not. Do you think bozo is low hanging fruit? Do you think he’ he’s in danger of being killed with no competition?
Yes, but that doesn't matter to me, and no.

Here's the thing with bozo for me:
a) he's made 9 posts this entire game, exactly 0 of which contain any substance in my opinion. I don't recall him ever shouting over the top of everyone but I also don't recall him ever being a true lurker. Regardless of his role, he hasn't had the chance to play, and as such I don't think he will leave us any information if he dies. Whether his wagon will leave us information is another conversation entirely -
b) the existing wagon is already pressure on him. He's the leading vote-getter right now. Your vote on him was first and the only one of the three that came with any explanation, and while you gave one I don't really get your explanation either. What are we gleaming from this? If he flips scum, are we supposed to clear the three of you? If he flips town, are the three of you supposed to face consequences for it? Are we supposed to figure out which of the three of you are opportunistic voters and which of the three of you are just not very good at defending your votes? Nobody is joining because there's no good trail laid out to follow and none of the people on whatever trail yall are on have made any effort to create one.

The bulk of worcej's play so far has been buddying people and talking about the fucking Mariners. His availability may not be limitless but he's been here and chosen to do nothing with it. Moreover, the chance to pressure him has yet to get spoiled by a bad wagon. To me there's more room to get information there both from worcej, since I know he's here, and from a wagon that will hopefully form on more merit than bozo's did.
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#1084 Post by foodcoats » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:56 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:51 pm
I am not going to be available the rest of the day until close to EOD. I have had very little time to look at the game so far, but in my defense I did not expect the game to start until tonight. I will have more time to participate if I make it to D2.

celaph or damo would be my choice for the DK today, but I am not "tunneling" them as foodcoats suggests, after all, it is only D1, and I have spent very little time looking at the game. I just see less town motivation in their posts that others.

After the last game I was in, I was glad to draw town this game, so I hope I am not eliminated today for lack of participation. If that happens, just remember that I was an easy vote for the mafia.
Damn, ATE succeeds.

##VOTE worcej

If bozo is town, I do think he’s one of the best town players on here, and this post strikes me as authentic.
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#1085 Post by Squigs44 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:56 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:51 pm
If that happens, just remember that I was an easy vote for the mafia.
I dont like that Bozo is playing the martyr here, but given that Bozo promised to give more effort tomorrow I'd like to stick to a more interesting elimination today and give Bozo the chance to be more active tomorrow.
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#1086 Post by bo_sox48 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:57 pm

Squigs44 wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:52 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:38 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:36 pm


I don't know Celaph's meta and generally think meta is overly subjective BS anyway, so I can't answer that piece. But I don't read his play as hiding behind townreads; I see it more as they are simply not very confident in scumreading people.

How do you currently feel about Celaph buddying you?
Moreover, I don't feel like you have shown strong conviction in your own read of Celaph, which bothers me more than the merit or lack thereof in your case.
Tbh this day 1 has produced some of the weakest scumreads I've ever seen. No one is obvscumming and there's no big fight that causes people to pick sides. I don't think anyone has conviction in their reads
That's both fair and accurate. Perhaps that leads to interesting hopping around at EOD. Perhaps it just means this game is a quick loss since mafia can just kill whomever they perceive is a threat and trust that the rest of the crowd will do nothing about it.
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#1087 Post by bo_sox48 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:57 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:56 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:51 pm
I am not going to be available the rest of the day until close to EOD. I have had very little time to look at the game so far, but in my defense I did not expect the game to start until tonight. I will have more time to participate if I make it to D2.

celaph or damo would be my choice for the DK today, but I am not "tunneling" them as foodcoats suggests, after all, it is only D1, and I have spent very little time looking at the game. I just see less town motivation in their posts that others.

After the last game I was in, I was glad to draw town this game, so I hope I am not eliminated today for lack of participation. If that happens, just remember that I was an easy vote for the mafia.
Damn, ATE succeeds.

##VOTE worcej

If bozo is town, I do think he’s one of the best town players on here, and this post strikes me as authentic.
Dude, you're doing the same thing all over again. Make a case.
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#1088 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:58 pm

Bo_Sox has convinced me, truly he has.

##Vote Worcej
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#1089 Post by BesharamSabi » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:58 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:51 pm
I am not going to be available the rest of the day until close to EOD. I have had very little time to look at the game so far, but in my defense I did not expect the game to start until tonight. I will have more time to participate if I make it to D2.

celaph or damo would be my choice for the DK today, but I am not "tunneling" them as foodcoats suggests, after all, it is only D1, and I have spent very little time looking at the game. I just see less town motivation in their posts that others.

After the last game I was in, I was glad to draw town this game, so I hope I am not eliminated today for lack of participation. If that happens, just remember that I was an easy vote for the mafia.
Wow a post from bozo that isn't a one liner, it's a Thanksgiving miracle.

Bozo I'm going to send you some questions, hopefully you don't die before you can answer them:

Why do you think food thinks you're tunneling damo and celaph?

What about their post seems to have less town motivation? Like what is triggering this vibe?

Why do you think you're an easy vote for mafia?

Like I said I hope you don't get day killed before you can answer these questions. Appreciate it!
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#1090 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:59 pm

For the record I also find Snowy very suspicious at the moment.
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#1091 Post by Squigs44 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:59 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:59 pm
For the record I also find Snowy very suspicious at the moment.
Why?
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#1092 Post by snowy801 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:00 pm

BesharamSabi wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:53 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:43 pm
Soliciting opinions on death the llama
I think Death Llama boy seems townie so far, his vibes and post have been consistent like the last game. His reads are well thought out so far with solid explanations. He has also been asking me questions and trying to expand my process of thinking about this game. I doubt scum would want me to play this game better.

But this also could be an act and a form of budding from him.

What are your opinions on Llama boy?
I dunno, I'm chewing on it
Could see him being scum

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#1093 Post by ghug » Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:00 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:42 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:36 pm
I finally have a scumread but I'd rather not kill celaph today.
Why do you scumread celaph?
I found him underwhelming last night when he was finally active. The avoiding casting a vote specifically reminds me of a past scum game.

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#1094 Post by ghug » Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:02 pm

snowy801 wrote:
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Soliciting opinions on death the llama
Townlean. Somewhere between food and Squigs.

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#1095 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:03 pm

Squigs44 wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:59 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:59 pm
For the record I also find Snowy very suspicious at the moment.
Why?
The way he hinted that he had a case on Ghug incoming after doing some big re-read, only to tell us, after some pressing, that it was just vibes.
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#1096 Post by ghug » Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:03 pm

BesharamSabi wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:46 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:32 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:09 pm


Worcej either votes or gives a read on:
Player (post#)
DL (157)
Jamie (159)
Damo (166)
Foodcoats(392)
Bosox (396)
Snowy (752)
Squigs (753)
Snowy again (762)

That's more interactions than Bozo
Fair points. None of it “stuck” when I read worcej’s iso so maybe it is a bias/cognitive error due to bozo’s very limited posts, making his reads look proportionally more strident.

So, worcej will give us some info too.

Danke
Maybe it didn't stuck with me when I reread worcej post was that a lot of it was surrounded by shit post about fucking sports, weird messages about our last game together, and joke votes.

I do agree that Worcej would provide us more info than say bozo. I just wished bozo would stop with the one liner post.

Ghug why did you call me the new bozo when I clearly don't do one liner posts?
You were conducting a mass survey.

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#1097 Post by Squigs44 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:06 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:03 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:59 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:59 pm
For the record I also find Snowy very suspicious at the moment.
Why?
The way he hinted that he had a case on Ghug incoming after doing some big re-read, only to tell us, after some pressing, that it was just vibes.
And you can't think of a reason town Snowy would do that?
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#1098 Post by BesharamSabi » Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:12 pm

bo_sox48 wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:57 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:52 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:38 pm


Moreover, I don't feel like you have shown strong conviction in your own read of Celaph, which bothers me more than the merit or lack thereof in your case.
Tbh this day 1 has produced some of the weakest scumreads I've ever seen. No one is obvscumming and there's no big fight that causes people to pick sides. I don't think anyone has conviction in their reads
That's both fair and accurate. Perhaps that leads to interesting hopping around at EOD. Perhaps it just means this game is a quick loss since mafia can just kill whomever they perceive is a threat and trust that the rest of the crowd will do nothing about it.
Who do you think mafia is going to perceive as a threat? I'm sure this crowd will react. We are clearly arguing about celaph vs bozo vs damo vs worcej. If this game had like four pages of post in a day like it did last game then I would be worried. But yea town clearly is putting effort.
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#1099 Post by BesharamSabi » Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:15 pm

bo_sox48 wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:57 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:56 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:51 pm
I am not going to be available the rest of the day until close to EOD. I have had very little time to look at the game so far, but in my defense I did not expect the game to start until tonight. I will have more time to participate if I make it to D2.

celaph or damo would be my choice for the DK today, but I am not "tunneling" them as foodcoats suggests, after all, it is only D1, and I have spent very little time looking at the game. I just see less town motivation in their posts that others.

After the last game I was in, I was glad to draw town this game, so I hope I am not eliminated today for lack of participation. If that happens, just remember that I was an easy vote for the mafia.
Damn, ATE succeeds.

##VOTE worcej

If bozo is town, I do think he’s one of the best town players on here, and this post strikes me as authentic.
Dude, you're doing the same thing all over again. Make a case.
One part of the worcej is sus case is that he hasn't posted in 20.5 hours (as of me writing this). Worcej is usually super active but the fact he isn't engaging or saying anything right now is eyebrow raising.

When worcej is scum is he usually like this or is this something new?

Bo what abut food that is giving you bad vibes besides his weird random style of voting?
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#1100 Post by BesharamSabi » Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:18 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:00 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:53 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:43 pm
Soliciting opinions on death the llama
I think Death Llama boy seems townie so far, his vibes and post have been consistent like the last game. His reads are well thought out so far with solid explanations. He has also been asking me questions and trying to expand my process of thinking about this game. I doubt scum would want me to play this game better.

But this also could be an act and a form of budding from him.

What are your opinions on Llama boy?
I dunno, I'm chewing on it
Could see him being scum
What post or vibes is he giving off that is scummy?

How similar or different are his vibes from ghug, another person you said was giving you scum vibes?

Also how do feel about Jamiet saying he feels that you're scummy?
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