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Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:04 pm
by TheFlyingBoat
Doom427 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:54 pm
Well, choosing to not kill clears, and instead go for others, is a bad losing strategy. The fact they went for it implies to me that whoever's playing has to be someone who was on Mafia last game, and really liked the strategy then.

So we have to entertain the possibility than Snowy worked with PE to fake his own death. If PE rolled the Scum Team was Kak/Snowy/PE, it would work shockingly well. They could no Kill night 1, and have an almost guaranteed win.

Just to be safe,

##VOTE SNOWY

(More seriously, considering last game, I'd say scum team is probably players who weren't around that time? After game 70, I don't see any scum player having the courage to not do the boring and obvious play, cause it seemed like a pretty clear lesson that if you're scum, you gotta kill clears. Add in that this is a flip game, where killing clears is even more important, and...)
I know you're kidding but after rereading ghug's D2/N2 it's entirely possible they chose not to go to for the clear because they looked at ghug's comment, that basically said Mason 2 should not search for damo in case the tracker accidentally stumbles upon him. That might lead mafia to a) think ghug is the tracker and b) think that they can take the high odds of damo missing search 2 and that they should kill him asap because he's a high activity poster who lead discussions AND also possibly a PR.

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:09 pm
by DeathLlama8
reread Ghug n1/d2 and I don't see any crumbs (he also doesn't seem like the type). I think him towncoring TFB based on that discussion is pretty reasonable if he's already hexenjäger and has thought this through (also probably a reason for his death), so if he got anything n1 he didn't tell us directly.

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:09 pm
by Doom427
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:04 pm
Doom427 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:54 pm
Well, choosing to not kill clears, and instead go for others, is a bad losing strategy. The fact they went for it implies to me that whoever's playing has to be someone who was on Mafia last game, and really liked the strategy then.

So we have to entertain the possibility than Snowy worked with PE to fake his own death. If PE rolled the Scum Team was Kak/Snowy/PE, it would work shockingly well. They could no Kill night 1, and have an almost guaranteed win.

Just to be safe,

##VOTE SNOWY

(More seriously, considering last game, I'd say scum team is probably players who weren't around that time? After game 70, I don't see any scum player having the courage to not do the boring and obvious play, cause it seemed like a pretty clear lesson that if you're scum, you gotta kill clears. Add in that this is a flip game, where killing clears is even more important, and...)
I know you're kidding but after rereading ghug's D2/N2 it's entirely possible they chose not to go to for the clear because they looked at ghug's comment, that basically said Mason 2 should not search for damo in case the tracker accidentally stumbles upon him. That might lead mafia to a) think ghug is the tracker and b) think that they can take the high odds of damo missing search 2 and that they should kill him asap because he's a high activity poster who lead discussions AND also possibly a PR.
Yeah, that comment struck me as odd when I first read it. I thought it was just Ghug making a bad assumption (lost child should always search Damo, if tracker finds lost child, lost child can claim. Not end of world). But, Ghug wanting to make sure that A- He didn't have to claim and B-Didn't want his PR to hurt town... I could see mafia assuming that means he's tracker.

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:16 pm
by DeathLlama8
Kakarroto wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:47 pm
@rd what would make you believe town Kakarroto wouldn't vote for you? I mean it was kinda in joke time and your response might be too, but that was a bit odd, at least that's what I feel about it in retrospect.
why did he even ask this lmao

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:22 pm
by DeathLlama8
hm ghug's question is worse though and he's town
maybe kakarroto is just bad at faking scumhunting

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:34 pm
by Doom427
Ok, real vote time

##VOTE RDR

Don't think we should Punish Jamie for not getting into a fight. When I did a quick read through on the bot, he never did anything that jumped out to me as obviously townie.

Let's throw some pressure his way.

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:35 pm
by damo666
##vote Bes Sabi

see what happens

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:43 pm
by DeathLlama8
the lack of strong expressed scumreads / everyone being okay with firing into a POE makes me feel like there's one scum outside of the "obvious" POE candidates

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:46 pm
by Durga
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:43 pm
the lack of strong expressed scumreads / everyone being okay with firing into a POE makes me feel like there's one scum outside of the "obvious" POE candidates
Everyone is on the table for me other than you and damo atm

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:51 pm
by TheFlyingBoat
Durga wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:46 pm
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:43 pm
the lack of strong expressed scumreads / everyone being okay with firing into a POE makes me feel like there's one scum outside of the "obvious" POE candidates
Everyone is on the table for me other than you and damo atm
What makes you not like Doom? Some odd comments for sure, but I doubt she's putting that vote on Kak with 15 mins left to make him tied for largest wagon.

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:51 pm
by damo666
Who wants to join me on Sabi?

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:57 pm
by Durga
damo666 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:51 pm
Who wants to join me on Sabi?
Why Sabi?

##vote Sabi

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:57 pm
by Doom427
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:43 pm
the lack of strong expressed scumreads / everyone being okay with firing into a POE makes me feel like there's one scum outside of the "obvious" POE candidates
There's two scum out, and we only have... one clear?

The pool is 8 people. Take out the Kak voters day 1 (which is me, and Ghug, and Snowy, half credit to you and VecGO for starting the wagon), and that leaves us with....... 7 people. One other clear is in that list, gets us 6 in the pool.

Scum is probably fine with that POE.

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:59 pm
by TheFlyingBoat
damo666 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:51 pm
Who wants to join me on Sabi?
Sure, but why? Just pressure or do you have a harder read on them?

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:59 pm
by TheFlyingBoat
##vote BesharamSabi

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:07 pm
by DeathLlama8
Doom427 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:57 pm
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:43 pm
the lack of strong expressed scumreads / everyone being okay with firing into a POE makes me feel like there's one scum outside of the "obvious" POE candidates
There's two scum out, and we only have... one clear?

The pool is 8 people. Take out the Kak voters day 1 (which is me, and Ghug, and Snowy, half credit to you and VecGO for starting the wagon), and that leaves us with....... 7 people. One other clear is in that list, gets us 6 in the pool.

Scum is probably fine with that POE.
nah I mean like the various permutations of jamiet/rd/bunny/tfb people were throwing around at EON2

also, how do I get half credit?

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:09 pm
by DeathLlama8
TFB did you ever find that one sus post you were looking for

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:12 pm
by TheFlyingBoat
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:09 pm
TFB did you ever find that one sus post you were looking for
Yeah I did, and it turned out it was posted by ghug. It was the one about the mason 2 not trying to find damo. Thought it was posted by someone else and could inform a nice read, but alas no, it was just the tracker actually trying to make his life easier not a bad thing.

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:14 pm
by TheFlyingBoat
@Durga, just a heads up, your vote was invalid

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:16 pm
by DeathLlama8
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:12 pm
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:09 pm
TFB did you ever find that one sus post you were looking for
Yeah I did, and it turned out it was posted by ghug. It was the one about the mason 2 not trying to find damo. Thought it was posted by someone else and could inform a nice read, but alas no, it was just the tracker actually trying to make his life easier not a bad thing.
rip

also did you finish your reread? how are you feeling about the game state now