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Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:41 am
by Durga
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:39 am
Durga wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:36 am
Also I really do think we kill Jamie today
Haven't played with him lately - do you think he would change his tone that much just because he rolled scum, or could this be for NAI reasons?
Like he has this inability to get angry as scum that he doesn't have as town - at least from my experience I heard one game was different for some reason. Like last time he was town PE scum read him and Jamie was ready to fly to whatever Omaha to beat the shit out of him. I guess it could be NAI but totally ignoring my vote is kinda weird

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:41 am
by DeathLlama8
Durga wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:40 am
How many times has dl crushed my heart this game like I can't
I'm using a new reaction test strategy called psychological warfare

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:42 am
by Durga
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:41 am
Durga wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:40 am
How many times has dl crushed my heart this game like I can't
I'm using a new reaction test strategy called psychological warfare
Well dont use it on me.

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:43 am
by Durga
DL what do you think of tfb. Am I just tunnelling blindly?

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:46 am
by DeathLlama8
He spent a lot of words justifying a lfischl vote D1 and then never posted again, and the interaction record with kakarroto is weird? I'm not scumreading him as hard as you are but unless he starts pumping out cases tomorrow I'm not opposed to killing him

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:47 am
by DeathLlama8
oh ig *analysis in general because apparently we don't really do cases now

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:51 am
by DeathLlama8
it sounds like you think the team is TFB/Jamiet/Kakarroto - are there any relevant interactions between them?

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:56 am
by DeathLlama8
also Sabi was VT last game right? how did they play that

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:59 am
by Durga
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:56 am
also Sabi was VT last game right? how did they play that
Kinda the same as here but more confused in that game (understandably) that this one. They didn't really push any scum reads or anything but made it pretty obvious they were town

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:59 am
by Durga
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:51 am
it sounds like you think the team is TFB/Jamiet/Kakarroto - are there any relevant interactions between them?
Hmmmm not sure but it's not an impossible team

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:28 am
by TheFlyingBoat
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:46 am
He spent a lot of words justifying a lfischl vote D1 and then never posted again, and the interaction record with kakarroto is weird? I'm not scumreading him as hard as you are but unless he starts pumping out cases tomorrow I'm not opposed to killing him
I already explained my inactivity for those two days pretty thoroughly.

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:31 am
by Durga
I'm going to bed but before I go just want to state that I don't want to rule out doom because while she's had some townie moments she's also had some scummy ones and I feel as if she's less inclined to share her thoughts this game (maybe but feel free to prove me wrong on this one)

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:35 am
by BesharamSabi
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:56 am
also Sabi was VT last game right? how did they play that
Terribly. I was dumb to the point people thought I was putting on an act but I really was clueless.

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:41 am
by TheFlyingBoat
Durga wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:41 am
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:39 am
Durga wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:36 am
Also I really do think we kill Jamie today
Haven't played with him lately - do you think he would change his tone that much just because he rolled scum, or could this be for NAI reasons?
Like he has this inability to get angry as scum that he doesn't have as town - at least from my experience I heard one game was different for some reason. Like last time he was town PE scum read him and Jamie was ready to fly to whatever Omaha to beat the shit out of him. I guess it could be NAI but totally ignoring my vote is kinda weird
smh when I say basically the same thing to justify him being a potential scum read you tell me my post is full of shit :P

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:56 am
by TheFlyingBoat
@Durga when you wake up what was your question for me? I literally Ctrl+Fed for TFB and TheFlyingBoat and I didn't find any unanswered questions using the bot. It's possible I am missing something still, but I just don't know what question you're talking about. And I know you're trying to make this out to be scummy behavior but missing a question, asking for it to be re-asked, and then answering it to satisfaction happened every now and then. I am being genuine in asking for whatever questions you have for me.

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:11 am
by TheFlyingBoat
Durga wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:31 am
I'm going to bed but before I go just want to state that I don't want to rule out doom because while she's had some townie moments she's also had some scummy ones and I feel as if she's less inclined to share her thoughts this game (maybe but feel free to prove me wrong on this one)
Do you think Doom is going to put a vote with 15 mins left to put Kaka tied for the largest wagon left which created the momentum that lead to him being put on the block and then to make the disastrous tracker claim? That seems highly unlikely.

Given that Doom just does not seem like a D1 busser in general (at least imo the type of newbie to be play such a strat has a very specific very different vibe) AND that Kak gave no reason to be bussed as far as I can recall on D1 since most of his characters were wasted on that stupid torch and other shitposting that didn't give away obv scum vibes, the idea that scum!Doom cast that vote seems really odd.

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:59 am
by DeathLlama8
DeathLlama8 wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:03 pm
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:36 am
I want to first start of by saying I don't buy Kakarrotto's claim at all.

What the hell was the crumb nonsense? If I were him I would just claim to not crumb rather than claiming "let's hunt the witches guys!!!!!" or whatever it was he said was his crumb. Like do we seriously believe anyone claims "hey guys let's hunt scum" is an actual crumb? Part of me thinks it may be so terrible that no scum would come up with it, but given the guy has played before AND tried to crumb before I find me that very unlikely. Given that there is no role block in this game though, maybe we just let him live until a day before kilo and let him eat an NK or see if we can get something useful out of him after a few days of watching.
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:27 pm
In terms of expected value of D1 votes, which tend to be popularity contests no matter the site (barring completely catastrophic scum play), a vote for lfischlI is probably the highest expected value vote given the downside of being wrong is far lower than the downside of being wrong on anyone else and the odds of hitting scum are about equal. I especially like it since it was the counterwagon to killing you, the supposed tracker.
@TFB - can you walk us through how your read on kakarroto evolved from start of N1 to whenever damo exposed him D2?
hi Boat! could you respond to this rq

also re above - I don't think you being inactive the past few days is alignment-indicative, there were just a few things that you did do that pinged me a little. Looking forward to seeing the results of your reread though :)

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:08 am
by damo666
Durga virtually in my towncore

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:15 am
by DeathLlama8
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:15 pm
RIP Ghug, this time I was reading you right.

@Durga - Why Jamiet?
@rdrivera - tbc, does this mean you were correctly reading Ghug as town, or as PR?

Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:18 am
by damo666
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 2:15 am
damo666 wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:42 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:23 pm
Can someone explain why we can't reveal who the other lost sibling is?
I guess I reveal eventually. Then we have two clears for 2 days and we soak up the next 2 NKs. If I don't reveal you wont have a clear.

I suppose they could claim if under pressure and if there's a counter we have deffo one for one trade.
I don't think scum will go for a 1 x 1 against the sibling. Anyway, you should make a crumb and tell the sibling so they can try to live until milo and claim just there.
Agreed. No reveal.