Re: M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:27 pm
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##ask gmBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:21 pmBut how do they know they are sleepwalkers. Like how do they randomly target a player?Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:16 pmIt's perfectly clear:
Sleepwalker – Appears as Vanilla Town, receives a Vanilla Town PM, and wins with the Town of Webdipa. However, at night, this player randomly targets another player.
The tracker doesn't give clears. There is a 1/3 chance you find out that your scum target targeted no one if you scan a scum target. You can find lost siblings or the sleepwalker if they happen to target the NK victim. This isn't a game where we have a copy with a miller and no godfather where you can trust all clears but not all guiltys or a game with a godfather and no miller where you can trust all guiltys but not all clears. This is a game with a tracker who can be wrong on both ends and doesn't give us certainty on anything besides the identity of the lost sibling or a sleepwalker which they may not even want to reveal for days. Maybe I am stupid and missing something but I seriously don't see why killing Snowy here wasn't the right idea here or why it gives us any alignment indication for Kakarot.ghug wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:23 pmClears win games. I'm not discounting the possibility that someone did do this, but I think it was bad play if they did, and I'm a little incredulous that anyone whose opinion I respect wouldn't agree with me here.TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:20 pmWhy? The tracker is not that powerful. Why not let a heavily doubted claim stew for a day or two and see if you can force a DK on him while killing townies perceived as strong hunters?
They don't know they're the sleepwalker. They randomly target a player without knowing they're doing so. It's to complicate the tracker role (though arguably it actually makes the tracker more useful).BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:29 pm##ask gmBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:21 pmBut how do they know they are sleepwalkers. Like how do they randomly target a player?Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:16 pm
It's perfectly clear:
Sleepwalker – Appears as Vanilla Town, receives a Vanilla Town PM, and wins with the Town of Webdipa. However, at night, this player randomly targets another player.
Please clarify that aspect of the role.
ok cool so this is what you realization was. Yes this one clear along with corroborating the lost siblings is the only nice part of the tracker.ghug wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:31 pmThey don't know they're the sleepwalker. They randomly target a player without knowing they're doing so. It's to complicate the tracker role (though arguably it actually makes the tracker more useful).BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:29 pm##ask gmBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:21 pm
But how do they know they are sleepwalkers. Like how do they randomly target a player?
Please clarify that aspect of the role.
The tracker itself is clear. If Kak's the tracker, they have to kill him at some point.TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:30 pmThe tracker doesn't give clears. There is a 1/3 chance you find out that your scum target targeted no one if you scan a scum target. You can find lost siblings or the sleepwalker if they happen to target the NK victim. This isn't a game where we have a copy with a miller and no godfather where you can trust all clears but not all guiltys or a game with a godfather and no miller where you can trust all guiltys but not all clears. This is a game with a tracker who can be wrong on both ends and doesn't give us certainty on anything besides the identity of the lost sibling or a sleepwalker which they may not even want to reveal for days. Maybe I am stupid and missing something but I seriously don't see why killing Snowy here wasn't the right idea here or why it gives us any alignment indication for Kakarot.ghug wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:23 pmClears win games. I'm not discounting the possibility that someone did do this, but I think it was bad play if they did, and I'm a little incredulous that anyone whose opinion I respect wouldn't agree with me here.TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:20 pm
Why? The tracker is not that powerful. Why not let a heavily doubted claim stew for a day or two and see if you can force a DK on him while killing townies perceived as strong hunters?
Ahh OKghug wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:31 pmThey don't know they're the sleepwalker. They randomly target a player without knowing they're doing so. It's to complicate the tracker role (though arguably it actually makes the tracker more useful).BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:29 pm##ask gmBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:21 pm
But how do they know they are sleepwalkers. Like how do they randomly target a player?
Please clarify that aspect of the role.
No, the realization was that if Kak is scum, he's the one who's doing the killing, so the tracker can't get any guilty scan at all. Didn't I already tell you that?TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:33 pmok cool so this is what you realization was. Yes this one clear along with corroborating the lost siblings is the only nice part of the tracker.
What does it make you think?BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:35 pmPretty sus that Bona is Co gm and barely doing any of the work while Eden is doing it all.
Makes you think
OK, you HAVE to know that this one was a joke.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:36 pmWhat does it make you think?BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:35 pmPretty sus that Bona is Co gm and barely doing any of the work while Eden is doing it all.
Makes you think
Did you think my reaction was super serious?ghug wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:37 pmOK, you HAVE to know that this one was a potato.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:36 pmWhat does it make you think about potatoes?BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:35 pmPretty sus that Bona is Co gm and barely doing any of the work while Eden is doing it all.
Makes you think about potatoes.
Makes me think Bona is a lazy, unreliable and terrible co gm.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:36 pmWhat does it make you think?BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:35 pmPretty sus that Bona is Co gm and barely doing any of the work while Eden is doing it all.
Makes you think
I admire your ability to make fun of yourself.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:38 pmDid you think my reaction was super serious?
Well if that's really how you feel, you should probably vote for him.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 1975 2:18 amMakes me think Bona is a lazy, unreliable and terrible co gm.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:36 pmWhat does it make you think?BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 1975 2:15 amPretty sus that Bona is Co gm and barely doing any of the work while Eden is doing it all.
Makes you think