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Yes. My townread of him has lessened.Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:39 amYou are implying that snowy would be more frustrated and more likely to fight to stay alive as town than scum here?ghug wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:27 amMy position as a candidate in the POE pool is telling me that people are growing overconfident and complacent, and I'm ready to fight to save myself because it's going to be necessary to prevent town from miskilling too many of us. I'm surprised that you wouldn't reach the same conclusion in the same position.Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:25 am
Oh. I guess I find that towny then? I understand whoever saying that if snowy was scum they might feel like they would inevitably die and thus not care as much if it happened this turn, but I don't really buy that with an oracle still in play. Even if scum snowy thinks they are doomed, I think they would want to delay it as much as possible so that they do not become an oracle target.
So I would lean town on that action I guess.
Remind me to talk about the lfischl kill before EON.Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:56 amI just reread fisch and have no idea why the were the NK. I suppose scum could be hunting for JOAT, but I don't see anything there.
The only thing that sticks out to me is that fisch did seem to have a fairly constant scumread of Eden - so there could be something there to get rid of a potential Eden voter. Especially since an Eden wagon was somewhat likely and fisch kinda just followed other peoples votes.
(but I don't even really buy this argument all that much)
That was an error in my haste. In particular I was thinking about your refusal to vote the wagon as coming off the wagon. You have a post early in the day saying he is a good wagon, and then later in the day saying that he seems mostly fine and kgray is scum. Then you hop to TFB to start another alternative wagon.ghug wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:10 amI'm out and about, so you don't get a full response here, but the fact that you think I voted for bozo for a time is itself indicative that you're not thinking very deeply about this.Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:36 amghug - maybe defended is a poor word choice. But you were clearly wrong about bozo and came off his wagon at a suspicious time. We've gone through several instances where I've pointed out that I think you are unlikely to have conviction around the arguments you are making. Admittedly, the bozo defense is likely because I'm going off of memory of the day rather than going back and rereading extensively.
I don't think I'm being lazy. Sure its not a hot take, but I do think bussing is likely *less* common in this game. I don't find it super likely multiple scum bussed bozo to death D2. So from a numbers standpoint there is likely at least one scum amongst the non-clears and non bozo pushers. I'll take probability over some meta nonsense all day.
WIth regards to rdr - pretty much agree with you here. You and rdr have equally poor voting records with respect to our scum info. You have been much more active and have done things I have found suspicious. I barely know anything rdr has said, so I don't really find it suspicious [albeit I hate his last post about being ok with dying, so there is that]
Has your read on jasnah changed, or your read on her with respect to me, or do you just not feel the need to relitigate?
Love u tooworcej wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:55 amMaybe you should've listened to me 2 phases ago?Fluminator wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:25 pmIt's going to be hard to not have Sabi as a scum pretending to be clueless as a possibility in the back of my mind now.
I really don't know what's going on but I'm fully on board with you leading the wagon on me. You should have pushed harder to get people to vote me out this turn. Do better worcej.worcej wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:56 amScum!Sabi, if you're scum, has been playing up the 'idk what's going on' for several phases.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:30 pmI really am not pretending or acting or whatever being clueless. I really am not used to this format and this is quite literally nothing like popcorn or in person mafia so I apologize for not being that aware of stuff.
If I was scum why would I preface my clueless post as ohey this is going to be evidence of my scum read later? Just saying.
Can you just ask RHK for a replacement then? I don't really wanna waste a daykillBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:25 amI really don't know what's going on but I'm fully on board with you leading the wagon on me. You should have pushed harder to get people to vote me out this turn. Do better worcej.worcej wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:56 amScum!Sabi, if you're scum, has been playing up the 'idk what's going on' for several phases.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:30 pmI really am not pretending or acting or whatever being clueless. I really am not used to this format and this is quite literally nothing like popcorn or in person mafia so I apologize for not being that aware of stuff.
If I was scum why would I preface my clueless post as ohey this is going to be evidence of my scum read later? Just saying.
I really do want to play and have been doing town reads. Jesus christ. I'm just trying to poke worcej at this point since he's been tunneling in on me.Durga wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:26 amCan you just ask RHK for a replacement then? I don't really wanna waste a daykillBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:25 amI really don't know what's going on but I'm fully on board with you leading the wagon on me. You should have pushed harder to get people to vote me out this turn. Do better worcej.
Okay cool. Was confused because I thought you self voted all dayBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:27 amI really do want to play and have been doing town reads. Jesus christ. I'm just trying to poke worcej at this point since he's been tunneling in on me.Durga wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:26 amCan you just ask RHK for a replacement then? I don't really wanna waste a daykillBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:25 am
I really don't know what's going on but I'm fully on board with you leading the wagon on me. You should have pushed harder to get people to vote me out this turn. Do better worcej.
I only did a self vote the whole day because I really didn't think Jamiet vs Chaqa vs snowy were solid enough wagon without reading up on old games and comparing.Durga wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:30 amOkay cool. Was confused because I thought you self voted all dayBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:27 amI really do want to play and have been doing town reads. Jesus christ. I'm just trying to poke worcej at this point since he's been tunneling in on me.
they didDurga wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:30 amOkay cool. Was confused because I thought you self voted all dayBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:27 amI really do want to play and have been doing town reads. Jesus christ. I'm just trying to poke worcej at this point since he's been tunneling in on me.
There's a reason why. I didn't think the wagons were solid and my analyzing old games wasn't completed yet.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:31 amthey didDurga wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:30 amOkay cool. Was confused because I thought you self voted all dayBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:27 am
I really do want to play and have been doing town reads. Jesus christ. I'm just trying to poke worcej at this point since he's been tunneling in on me.
Here I posted that I needed to reread Snowy and Chaqa.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:27 pmHere's my legit big wall of text while I'm in the bus home so I can read everyone. Do not pay attention to the order, there's no hidden message. I'm just hungover And trying to remember:
Bona: 100% town or did some 6D chess move with scum partner worcej with the night 2 shenanigans but that's far fetch so yea town
Bunnygo: town, most likely the Miller. The person I least suspect in this game as scum. Good to go in my eyes
Doom: can't read her that well. She's new like me but just seems a lot more polished than me like she has played this before, the forum version I mean. With these odd nk choices, could be a new person. I should reread her post more. Also lied about Chicago
Durga: if she's not having sexual tension with ghug she is encouraging others to scum hunt. But it could also be a ploy or an act. Maybe town?
Chaqa: I'm going to be honest I'm too hungover to remember what pr he claimed. Do I believe him, I need to reread his posts and everyone's evidence on him again to determine that. His reactions in my reread of last night's posts of him being frustrated seem genuine but who knows
Fluminator: maybe town? His reads seem solid but I feel like his opinions and what not have gone the way if everyone meaning like he mirrored the group consensus on each person reads so that he didn't struck a chord. Maybe need to look into deeper.
Ghug: when's he's not having sexual tension with half the people and tunneling in on kgray, he offers good takes. Him combing through people old posts and trying to find crumbs were good. Maybe town.
Jamiet: can't read him for the life of me. All the post I remember from him have been complaining about not being able to catch up to the thread.
Kgray: most likely town. As I said before, her frustrations of being tunneled on seem genuine. Need a deeper look into her voting history tho.
Eden: could be scum. I need to reread his stuff but it seems off from what I remember reading.
Rdr: dunno this guy, barely posts, can't read, if he isn't night 4 kill than he's scum because they have been targeting low post count people
Snowy possibly scum. He's been switching wagons more than me. His posting have been erratic. Do need to reread him more.
Tfb: I don't think u believe his pr claim. Like I said his posts have been too curated and calculated which don't reflect upon his choices of people to scan.
Tom: see rdr
Vecna: has avoided saying any controversial opinions or anything that wasn't mainstream. People keep asking him to solve this but he like responds with some excuse about being drunk or at the pub or going to bed. Need to reread him.
Worcej: the love of my life. I don't think you're scum. You tunneling on me if weird but understandable.
OK there's my reads
You live in the Seattle area, you're fucked on owning a house regardless of what you eat.ghug wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:05 amAvocado toast is delicious and eating it is why I will never be able to afford a house.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:03 amDear Olds,
You say that gen Z is cringe, but statistics show that you all eat avocado toast and make shit memes.
Curious,
Bonatogher
Whats the point in poking me?BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:27 amI really do want to play and have been doing town reads. Jesus christ. I'm just trying to poke worcej at this point since he's been tunneling in on me.Durga wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:26 amCan you just ask RHK for a replacement then? I don't really wanna waste a daykillBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:25 am
I really don't know what's going on but I'm fully on board with you leading the wagon on me. You should have pushed harder to get people to vote me out this turn. Do better worcej.
