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I'm not sure what I think it means yet. It didn't feel like authentic confusion, and that's where I'm starting from. The obvious answer if he was tying intentionally is that he didn't want Jamie to die, but it's also possible he saw a town v town and a chance to tie, or even that he was bussing, and took his shot.Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:50 amSorry for missing EOD - I shot my personal best round of golf though, so it was worth it.
allright ghuggles - You are saying you think Chaqa intentionally tied the vote to protect Jamie? Or Snowy?
It seems just like confusion to me. Chaqa pretty clearly preferred the snowy wagon and moved off of snowy only to break a tie, no? The move back is what you find suspcious?
@Flum - I do plan on solving the game as best I can. I feel like I've been pretty open in sharing my thoughts, but know that I have pushed much this game because of the time I haven't committed. I'll try to improve as I know I'm in the POE pool here. Granted I stand that D2 makes little sense if I am a scummate of bozos but alas.
Snowy's and Jamie's reactions at the end both seem like the thing scum or town would do...so I don't know there.
I guess, right now I'm still viewing the game in the simplest form. We have many likely townclears. We have one pretty much confirmed scum in bozo. I'm going to vote for the person who is not a townclear, and most actively defended bozo - which is still ghug. I've also pointed out several times where I've found his rationale to seem rather shallow. I'll also note that his wagon disappeared today (I obviously didn't help by not pushing it at all...but still)
I think rivera's post about POE and being happy to be the daykill is complete trash - so I'm keen on bumping him up the list.
I'm here for the next few hours, so ask away any questions you have.
I'm going to look back at fisch interactions in the meantime as thats really the only other piece of info we have that is "new" (new to me since I haven't dove in since they were the NK)
He was around, though.Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:59 amI don't understand that at all. I think if snowy was around they would have voted to save themselves as either alignment.
The only thing I actually find suspicious about snowy is their statment about secretly hoping to die and not self voting for hypocritical reasons. That seemed maybe a little forced and fake.
Knock-KnockBonatogether wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:22 amdo your kids have any new jokes?BunnyGo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:18 amI know two very cute and very annoying gen alpha kids. One won’t let me leave her room right now.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:14 am
All the Gen Alpha kids on my street are cool. We're buddies
Otherwise it’s mostly farts, poop, your butt, “I will fart in my bed…every night” (the song) and calling my dad the poopiest person in the world.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:22 amdo your kids have any new jokes?BunnyGo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:18 amI know two very cute and very annoying gen alpha kids. One won’t let me leave her room right now.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:14 am
All the Gen Alpha kids on my street are cool. We're buddies
No…sadly. It’ll have to bake Monday. The avocados aren’t ripe either yet. So that works.ghug wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:25 amYou're going to fresh-bake a boule for breakfast tomorrow?BunnyGo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:05 amI’m not a millennial. But avocado toast is fucking delicious. Put some spices on top. Little pepper. Some fresh baked whole wheat boule. Fried egg. Hell yes. I know what I’m having for breakfast tomorrow.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:03 am
Dear Olds,
You say that gen Z is cringe, but statistics show that you all eat avocado toast and make shit memes.
Curious,
Bonatogher
This is why I get a little frustrated. Everyone says I don't participate, yet I have lots of reads, I just feel like nobody reads the few posts I have.ghug wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:01 amI'm not sure what I think it means yet. It didn't feel like authentic confusion, and that's where I'm starting from. The obvious answer if he was tying intentionally is that he didn't want Jamie to die, but it's also possible he saw a town v town and a chance to tie, or even that he was bussing, and took his shot.Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:50 amSorry for missing EOD - I shot my personal best round of golf though, so it was worth it.
allright ghuggles - You are saying you think Chaqa intentionally tied the vote to protect Jamie? Or Snowy?
It seems just like confusion to me. Chaqa pretty clearly preferred the snowy wagon and moved off of snowy only to break a tie, no? The move back is what you find suspcious?
@Flum - I do plan on solving the game as best I can. I feel like I've been pretty open in sharing my thoughts, but know that I have pushed much this game because of the time I haven't committed. I'll try to improve as I know I'm in the POE pool here. Granted I stand that D2 makes little sense if I am a scummate of bozos but alas.
Snowy's and Jamie's reactions at the end both seem like the thing scum or town would do...so I don't know there.
I guess, right now I'm still viewing the game in the simplest form. We have many likely townclears. We have one pretty much confirmed scum in bozo. I'm going to vote for the person who is not a townclear, and most actively defended bozo - which is still ghug. I've also pointed out several times where I've found his rationale to seem rather shallow. I'll also note that his wagon disappeared today (I obviously didn't help by not pushing it at all...but still)
I think rivera's post about POE and being happy to be the daykill is complete trash - so I'm keen on bumping him up the list.
I'm here for the next few hours, so ask away any questions you have.
I'm going to look back at fisch interactions in the meantime as thats really the only other piece of info we have that is "new" (new to me since I haven't dove in since they were the NK)
Why did I defend bozo more than, say, snowy? Vecna? Doom? Rd? You? What are your reads beyond me and rd?
It isn't about delaying a day but denying town an extra shot at a non-clear.
I did twice this past week...it's getting cold here, and I like bread.ghug wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:25 amYou're going to fresh-bake a boule for breakfast tomorrow?BunnyGo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:05 amI’m not a millennial. But avocado toast is fucking delicious. Put some spices on top. Little pepper. Some fresh baked whole wheat boule. Fried egg. Hell yes. I know what I’m having for breakfast tomorrow.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:03 am
Dear Olds,
You say that gen Z is cringe, but statistics show that you all eat avocado toast and make shit memes.
Curious,
Bonatogher
My issue here is that I didn't defend bozo that hard. Before, you said I defended jasnah hard, and that was fair. I spoke in favor of killing bozo for most of the day but pushed other wagons because his didn't need help. I got suspicious near the end of the day along with snowy because the wagon felt off, and I obviously voted poorly at the end, but all in all I don't think characterizing me as defending bozo more than anyone else who voted for him would be fair. If that's your primary reason for your top scumread, it rings a little hollow (and again was not your primary argument when you voted me a day ago).Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:15 amThis is why I get a little frustrated. Everyone says I don't participate, yet I have lots of reads, I just feel like nobody reads the few posts I have.ghug wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:01 amI'm not sure what I think it means yet. It didn't feel like authentic confusion, and that's where I'm starting from. The obvious answer if he was tying intentionally is that he didn't want Jamie to die, but it's also possible he saw a town v town and a chance to tie, or even that he was bussing, and took his shot.Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:50 amSorry for missing EOD - I shot my personal best round of golf though, so it was worth it.
allright ghuggles - You are saying you think Chaqa intentionally tied the vote to protect Jamie? Or Snowy?
It seems just like confusion to me. Chaqa pretty clearly preferred the snowy wagon and moved off of snowy only to break a tie, no? The move back is what you find suspcious?
@Flum - I do plan on solving the game as best I can. I feel like I've been pretty open in sharing my thoughts, but know that I have pushed much this game because of the time I haven't committed. I'll try to improve as I know I'm in the POE pool here. Granted I stand that D2 makes little sense if I am a scummate of bozos but alas.
Snowy's and Jamie's reactions at the end both seem like the thing scum or town would do...so I don't know there.
I guess, right now I'm still viewing the game in the simplest form. We have many likely townclears. We have one pretty much confirmed scum in bozo. I'm going to vote for the person who is not a townclear, and most actively defended bozo - which is still ghug. I've also pointed out several times where I've found his rationale to seem rather shallow. I'll also note that his wagon disappeared today (I obviously didn't help by not pushing it at all...but still)
I think rivera's post about POE and being happy to be the daykill is complete trash - so I'm keen on bumping him up the list.
I'm here for the next few hours, so ask away any questions you have.
I'm going to look back at fisch interactions in the meantime as thats really the only other piece of info we have that is "new" (new to me since I haven't dove in since they were the NK)
Why did I defend bozo more than, say, snowy? Vecna? Doom? Rd? You? What are your reads beyond me and rd?
I townread PE.
I think kgray is the most likely busser of bozo if there was one (which I sort of think there may have been, but its possible there was not)
I think Sabi is town.
I think Vecna is likely town from the bozo push.
I've said I think we should be killing from the non-bozo voters. Namely you, snowy, rdr, Doom. Eden is a non-bozo voter that I townlean and kgray is the bozo voter I think most likely to have bussed.
Are you really asking why you defended bozo more than the others? I don't know how to answer this than say that I remember you defending bozo pretty hard and not remembering the others doing so? I defended bozo pretty hard as well - but I know my alignment.
Do you want me to provide evidence that you defended bozo more than rdr? Because I think we could ask everyone here and they would agree with that, so I'm not sure I need to go back and show this.
I've made it pretty clear I'm mostly fine with wagons on any of the people who defended bozo (except for PE - and I wouldnt even call him a bozo defender). I just find you the most disingenuous. I find it interesting your wagon evaporated.
But if rdr or snowy or Doom is a wagon tomorrow and gets killed, I'm not losing any sleep over it. I'd just push you likely the next day. With limited info still coming as scum will likely target clears, I think the bozo angle is the best we have currently.
I've been doing baguettes the past couple weeks. Don't quite have them down yet, but they've progressed to pretty good.
Oh. I guess I find that towny then? I understand whoever saying that if snowy was scum they might feel like they would inevitably die and thus not care as much if it happened this turn, but I don't really buy that with an oracle still in play. Even if scum snowy thinks they are doomed, I think they would want to delay it as much as possible so that they do not become an oracle target.ghug wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:02 amHe was around, though.Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:59 amI don't understand that at all. I think if snowy was around they would have voted to save themselves as either alignment.
The only thing I actually find suspicious about snowy is their statment about secretly hoping to die and not self voting for hypocritical reasons. That seemed maybe a little forced and fake.
He was around composing a goodbye note that he posted as I was speed refreshing with 1 minute left. WTF does that?Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:59 amI don't understand that at all. I think if snowy was around they would have voted to save themselves as either alignment.
The only thing I actually find suspicious about snowy is their statment about secretly hoping to die and not self voting for hypocritical reasons. That seemed maybe a little forced and fake.
I think it's nominative determinism. You also seem mostly irrelevant, have large passages I just skip out of boredom and can't keep straight the point of it all.Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:15 amThis is why I get a little frustrated. Everyone says I don't participate, yet I have lots of reads, I just feel like nobody reads the few posts I have.ghug wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:01 amI'm not sure what I think it means yet. It didn't feel like authentic confusion, and that's where I'm starting from. The obvious answer if he was tying intentionally is that he didn't want Jamie to die, but it's also possible he saw a town v town and a chance to tie, or even that he was bussing, and took his shot.Tom Bombadil wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:50 amSorry for missing EOD - I shot my personal best round of golf though, so it was worth it.
allright ghuggles - You are saying you think Chaqa intentionally tied the vote to protect Jamie? Or Snowy?
It seems just like confusion to me. Chaqa pretty clearly preferred the snowy wagon and moved off of snowy only to break a tie, no? The move back is what you find suspcious?
@Flum - I do plan on solving the game as best I can. I feel like I've been pretty open in sharing my thoughts, but know that I have pushed much this game because of the time I haven't committed. I'll try to improve as I know I'm in the POE pool here. Granted I stand that D2 makes little sense if I am a scummate of bozos but alas.
Snowy's and Jamie's reactions at the end both seem like the thing scum or town would do...so I don't know there.
I guess, right now I'm still viewing the game in the simplest form. We have many likely townclears. We have one pretty much confirmed scum in bozo. I'm going to vote for the person who is not a townclear, and most actively defended bozo - which is still ghug. I've also pointed out several times where I've found his rationale to seem rather shallow. I'll also note that his wagon disappeared today (I obviously didn't help by not pushing it at all...but still)
I think rivera's post about POE and being happy to be the daykill is complete trash - so I'm keen on bumping him up the list.
I'm here for the next few hours, so ask away any questions you have.
I'm going to look back at fisch interactions in the meantime as thats really the only other piece of info we have that is "new" (new to me since I haven't dove in since they were the NK)
Why did I defend bozo more than, say, snowy? Vecna? Doom? Rd? You? What are your reads beyond me and rd?
I townread PE.
I think kgray is the most likely busser of bozo if there was one (which I sort of think there may have been, but its possible there was not)
I think Sabi is town.
I think Vecna is likely town from the bozo push.
I've said I think we should be killing from the non-bozo voters. Namely you, snowy, rdr, Doom. Eden is a non-bozo voter that I townlean and kgray is the bozo voter I think most likely to have bussed.
Are you really asking why you defended bozo more than the others? I don't know how to answer this than say that I remember you defending bozo pretty hard and not remembering the others doing so? I defended bozo pretty hard as well - but I know my alignment.
Do you want me to provide evidence that you defended bozo more than rdr? Because I think we could ask everyone here and they would agree with that, so I'm not sure I need to go back and show this.
I've made it pretty clear I'm mostly fine with wagons on any of the people who defended bozo (except for PE - and I wouldnt even call him a bozo defender). I just find you the most disingenuous. I find it interesting your wagon evaporated.
But if rdr or snowy or Doom is a wagon tomorrow and gets killed, I'm not losing any sleep over it. I'd just push you likely the next day. With limited info still coming as scum will likely target clears, I think the bozo angle is the best we have currently.