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snowy801 wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:51 pm

TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:49 pm

kgray wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:36 am

Also, what is this weird justification?

I feel like TFB has been a little too careful about all his reads/votes this game.

How is this a weird justification? Chaqa had claimed cop in the final 7 minutes of the day and my vote was on him. Therefore I had to vote for someone else...because I don't want to kill the cop. This seems pretty self-explanatory. If you're wondering why worcej, I wanted to go after someone else to save Jasnah and it just so happened that the second biggest wagon after Chaqa was worcej, someone I had previously voted for and had slight scum reads on. Seems to be a pretty obvious vote.

You stand accused of being too careful and always justifying your actions when no such justifications are necessary.

kgray wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:35 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:30 pm

kgray wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:31 pm

I don't even think this is true at this point.

What you don't think is true?

That you usually call me your spokesperson when we're both town. You didn't in that mini game where you were the vig (and in fact you made the same argument about me not being your spokesperson to contribute to your scumread of me) and you didn't when I subbed in for brain a game or two ago, where you also scumread me (though subbing late is kind of different).

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:56 pm

kgray wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:35 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:30 pm

What you don't think is true?

That you usually call me your spokesperson when we're both town. You didn't in that mini game where you were the vig (and in fact you made the same argument about me not being your spokesperson to contribute to your scumread of me) and you didn't when I subbed in for brain a game or two ago, where you also scumread me (though subbing late is kind of different).

Well, maybe I am remembering older games. I think I played too much Mafia games for my own sanity.
Or maybe you have better memory and I just need to change the way I try to read you.
In this game, the Chaqa vote is what specifically make me think you are scum because I can't see rational justification to it and I expect you to play well.

kgray wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:53 pm

ghug wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:48 pm

kgray wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:41 pm

Great, so you don't think I'm bussing him. Find someone else to push your garbage scumreads on.

How do you even get from what you said to what I said here?

You said you think I'm bussing Chaqa. Now you are saying you think he might actually be the cop. How the hell do you think I'm bussing Chaqa if you think he's the cop?

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:56 pm

kgray wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:35 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:30 pm

What you don't think is true?

That you usually call me your spokesperson when we're both town. You didn't in that mini game where you were the vig (and in fact you made the same argument about me not being your spokesperson to contribute to your scumread of me) and you didn't when I subbed in for brain a game or two ago, where you also scumread me (though subbing late is kind of different).

Well, maybe I am remembering older games. I think I played too much Mafia games for my own sanity.
Or maybe you have better memory and I just need to change the way I try to read you.
In this game, the Chaqa vote is what specifically make me think you are scum because I can't see rational justification to it and I expect you to play well.

kgray wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:55 pm

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:51 pm

TheFlyingBoat wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:49 pm

How is this a weird justification? Chaqa had claimed cop in the final 7 minutes of the day and my vote was on him. Therefore I had to vote for someone else...because I don't want to kill the cop. This seems pretty self-explanatory. If you're wondering why worcej, I wanted to go after someone else to save Jasnah and it just so happened that the second biggest wagon after Chaqa was worcej, someone I had previously voted for and had slight scum reads on. Seems to be a pretty obvious vote.

You stand accused of being too careful and always justifying your actions when no such justifications are necessary.

And, you know.... case in point.

kgray wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:35 pm

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:31 pm

Also Sabi has been noticeably absent too.

fwiw I think it's very likely Sabi will sub out for oog reasons

BunnyGo wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:32 pm

kgray wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:35 pm

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:31 pm

Also Sabi has been noticeably absent too.

fwiw I think it's very likely Sabi will sub out for oog reasons

Should the GM reach out to her now to ask?

Fluminator wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:47 pm

Why did the council allow a no-flip game through

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:02 pm

Bonatogether wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:58 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:23 am

This is terrible, terrible logic.

Why?

Why is it bad logic to want to kill someone EVEN IF THEY ARE THE COP?

Well gee that's a tough one.

Here are a few reasons:

1. We should try to kill people on the Mafia team. The cop is town.

2. If he is the cop and we remove him, then the Mafia can Roleblock someone else. If they're forced to RB the real cop each night, that leaves the Doc and the JOAT free to act.

3. That should be sufficient.

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:31 pm

Also Sabi has been noticeably absent too.

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:42 pm

Vecna wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:27 pm

Vecna wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:08 pm

You realize this is the sort of information that mafia forget when theyre claiming cop? Why on earth would you bring attention to this little snippet.

uncool. uncool

Chaqa, why did you +1 this post?

I was +1ing every post for most of the game so far. I got behind and gave up

Vecna wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:12 pm

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:31 pm

Also Sabi has been noticeably absent too.

Likely to be replaced, out of game stuff

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:49 pm

worcej wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:13 pm

snowy801 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:00 pm

Oh look at you mr lurking EoD

Do you know what a job is? EOD is @ 3:00 PM for me. I have meetings where I cannot be around explicitly play exactly how you want. I was watching via my cell under the table so that my damn boss didn't get pissed at me

Honestly - I hope scum do us a favor and kill you tonight. You're grinding my gears with your play style right now.

Also - well done all you 'super smart scum hunting people' who wanted to play the game instead of let mechanics drive the game - you forced the cop to claim. Top-notch scum hunting by the likes of you incredibly 'skilled' players this time around. For all the negativity that gets talked about our ability to scum hunt, you all contribute to that bad opinion with your egotistical methodologies.

Can you 'skilled players' take a moment to reflect on your absolutely horrible play and check your egos at the door this next phase?

Rant over. Time to go finish work so that I can gtfh.

I'm fairly confident it's worcej.

Consider: why is he so angry here? Allegedly it's because we 'super smart scum hunting people' forced a cop to claim, but even a night and day after said claim it is still not clear to anyone whether or not his claim is real, so why was it to him?

He was equally confident that Jasnah was scum instantly; repeat above statement here.

worcej was really obvious as scum in the last two games I played with him, just as he is now. Granted this paints more of a picture where Chaqa/Flum is cop/inno and Jasnah scum but irrespective of others this seems pretty clear.

@kgray why were/are you so sure worcej is town? Sell me the argument.