Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:40 am
I'm not so sure on ghug but that just seems to be how it is
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I'm not so sure on ghug but that just seems to be how it is
a) I've answered this to Eden just above in detail - at first I was like what and then I was like maybe he's doing this bc he's under heat and then I was like meh that would be premature and dumbghug wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:38 amghug wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:15 amThere's the attacking your accuser thing again.
Answer me these:
a) What was your immediate read of Bunny after he claimed?
aa) If scum, what led you to the conclusion that two people claimed Miller and neither was the Miller.
b) Have your reads of Bunny and/or jasnah changed since your initial reactions?
It's specifically aa) that I think you haven't explained. You did explain why you thought jasnah was fakeclaiming.
Okay. Well I don't. And I'm mostly trying to accomplish making a decision as to whether or not all your flip-flopping and forcing a scumread on Durga makes sense from town. And, also whether or not ghug is maliciously feeding into that read.President Eden wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:37 amI ask because all your questions have a very accusatory edge to them, but don't seem to be driving at a specific conclusion. I figured you would have more certain suspects than this, and I'm a bit lost as to what you're trying to accomplish right now.kgray wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:33 amJust haven't changed it yet. I think he's probably the Miller, this reminds me of what he did that game when I was the Jailor and he was also a PR and did weird crumbing stuff... And I can't imagine he'd be feeling enough pressure to CC jasnah if he's scum.President Eden wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:26 amkgray, why are you voting for BG, and who are your primary [other, if BG is still one] suspects and why?
I don't know yet who's going to replace him. Maybe bozo tbh. I don't feel good about you or ghug or Tom or Flum or even Chaqa anymore.
I've neither flip-flopped nor forced a read on anybody this game.kgray wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:42 amOkay. Well I don't. And I'm mostly trying to accomplish making a decision as to whether or not all your flip-flopping and forcing a scumread on Durga makes sense from town. And, also whether or not ghug is maliciously feeding into that read.President Eden wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:37 amI ask because all your questions have a very accusatory edge to them, but don't seem to be driving at a specific conclusion. I figured you would have more certain suspects than this, and I'm a bit lost as to what you're trying to accomplish right now.kgray wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:33 am
Just haven't changed it yet. I think he's probably the Miller, this reminds me of what he did that game when I was the Jailor and he was also a PR and did weird crumbing stuff... And I can't imagine he'd be feeling enough pressure to CC jasnah if he's scum.
I don't know yet who's going to replace him. Maybe bozo tbh. I don't feel good about you or ghug or Tom or Flum or even Chaqa anymore.
I think the way you kept changing your story when I asked you about Durga was flip-floppy and forced. Why'd you stop scumreading her?President Eden wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:43 amI've neither flip-flopped nor forced a read on anybody this game.kgray wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:42 amOkay. Well I don't. And I'm mostly trying to accomplish making a decision as to whether or not all your flip-flopping and forcing a scumread on Durga makes sense from town. And, also whether or not ghug is maliciously feeding into that read.President Eden wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:37 am
I ask because all your questions have a very accusatory edge to them, but don't seem to be driving at a specific conclusion. I figured you would have more certain suspects than this, and I'm a bit lost as to what you're trying to accomplish right now.
##VOTE kgray
I didn't change my story. You kept oversimplifying it and forcing me to continue explaining it in different ways that would hopefully communicate the point in a manner impervious to bad faith questions. Judging from your most recent comment I still have not succeeded.kgray wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:47 amI think the way you kept changing your story when I asked you about Durga was flip-floppy and forced. Why'd you stop scumreading her?President Eden wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:43 amI've neither flip-flopped nor forced a read on anybody this game.
##VOTE kgray
No, if the answer to the first question is that you thought he was scum, what led you to the conclusion that two people claimed Miller and neither was the Miller?Durga wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:41 ama) I've answered this to Eden just above in detail - at first I was like what and then I was like maybe he's doing this bc he's under heat and then I was like meh that would be premature and dumbghug wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:38 amghug wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:15 am
There's the attacking your accuser thing again.
Answer me these:
a) What was your immediate read of Bunny after he claimed?
aa) If scum, what led you to the conclusion that two people claimed Miller and neither was the Miller.
b) Have your reads of Bunny and/or jasnah changed since your initial reactions?
It's specifically aa) that I think you haven't explained. You did explain why you thought jasnah was fakeclaiming.
AA) I'm not that stupid I would have lurked and formulated a very mid tier stance to take. If you're asking what I would do as scum. I'm a little confused by this question
B) they're both likely town
I will reread your comments, but I do not believe I have oversimplified them. It seems to me like you've made a lot of arguments that all point to Durga being scum in basically any scenario.President Eden wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:52 amI didn't change my story. You kept oversimplifying it and forcing me to continue explaining it in different ways that would hopefully communicate the point in a manner impervious to bad faith questions. Judging from your most recent comment I still have not succeeded.kgray wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:47 amI think the way you kept changing your story when I asked you about Durga was flip-floppy and forced. Why'd you stop scumreading her?President Eden wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:43 am
I've neither flip-flopped nor forced a read on anybody this game.
##VOTE kgray
Which one?
But the thing about these players is that these are the players that you're more likely to be wrong about. Everyone can read sabi or doom but these players are the ones that might trip us up.kgray wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:36 amThat is what he said, yes. My comment was to point out that regardless of worcej's assessment of those people's scum skills, I wasn't feeling it as a list of potential kills.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:30 amBut isn't the point of the list that the people on it can hide well as scum?
Okay? I disagree that this is a good strategy. I don't know what that has to do with you thinking I'm scum.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:00 amBut the thing about these players is that these are the players that you're more likely to be wrong about. Everyone can read sabi or doom but these players are the ones that might trip us up.kgray wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:36 amThat is what he said, yes. My comment was to point out that regardless of worcej's assessment of those people's scum skills, I wasn't feeling it as a list of potential kills.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:30 am
But isn't the point of the list that the people on it can hide well as scum?
What do you meanBonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:00 amBut the thing about these players is that these are the players that you're more likely to be wrong about. Everyone can read sabi or doom but these players are the ones that might trip us up.kgray wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:36 amThat is what he said, yes. My comment was to point out that regardless of worcej's assessment of those people's scum skills, I wasn't feeling it as a list of potential kills.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:30 am
But isn't the point of the list that the people on it can hide well as scum?
What do you mean you can read Sabi? What has Sabi posted that gives you any reads at all? Only thing that gave me even the slightest inkling of anything was when they jumped on the miller CC as proof bunny was scum even well after consensus was that jasnah was not the miller. Maybe they're scum, maybe they're a coasting town person, but they're certainly not easy to read because even the slight scum leans I have on them I doubt based on the fact they're just new to the forum game.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:00 amBut the thing about these players is that these are the players that you're more likely to be wrong about. Everyone can read sabi or doom but these players are the ones that might trip us up.kgray wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:36 amThat is what he said, yes. My comment was to point out that regardless of worcej's assessment of those people's scum skills, I wasn't feeling it as a list of potential kills.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:30 am
But isn't the point of the list that the people on it can hide well as scum?
I thought this said "Can everyone read Sabi or doom" until I realized it was rhetoric but since I was halfway through my answer anyway
I'm also a little sad everyone can read me