M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[Fluminator]

I'm just not able to ignore that we have two competing hardclaims of Miller.

One of them has to go.

I strongly believe Bunny is the real Miller, so jasnah is the only person I will vote today at this point.

Might be the simplistic view of it, but i think getting too fancy and letting this drag on til later in the game when we can't afford to sort it out is dangerous. We don't always need to pull off some 10,000 IQ play. This is the logically correct choice.

##VOTE Chaqa

Scum Chaqa hides behind black and white views ("everyone on the D1 scum wagon must be town"). Town Chaqa understands nuance.

This is compelling to me. That tracks in my memory of him, but I should double check before deadline.

[Jamiet99uk]

##Vote Ghug

Why Ghug?

Why don't you explain your votes?

I'm sheeping Vecna who is sheeping Durga.

[Jamiet99uk]

##Vote Jamiet

Nope.

[kgray]

He's suggesting that you've said something that a player on the scum team wouldn't think to say and in a way that they wouldn't think to phrase it.

So that you've "slipped" to us that you're on the town team.

They are easy enough to fake, but he's suggesting that he doesn't think you did.

So my instinct is that scum are more likely to be quick to give people townclear status based on this kind of thing. Do you agree with that in general and do you think Chaqa is doing that here?

It kinda pinged me too, but ultimately I'm the sort of person who gets convinced by little townslips that nobody wants to take as seriously too, so it's not a slam dunk. Vote him for my reason.

I don't mind your black-and-white reason because yeah it's similar to the 'no scum bussed teacon' thing but I really struggle to see scum!Chaqa going off about a few people scumreading him hours into the game.

[Durga]

Lol who had that read that when Jamie is amiable he's scum?

[ghug]

Oh come on, read her posts this is getting boring.

She hardclaimed miller. She can't back out of that and you can't try to spin it in any way. Her vague quasi-retraction doesn't mean shit to me.

I've begun to observe that no one really respects hard claims anymore.

Which is why the term was silly to begin with. People have to add "hard" to a claim for it to be taken seriously now, which means anyone wishing to fakeclaim has to hardclaim.

[BesharamSabi]

Woo 100 pages.

So I have a date today and wondering how I schedule things. What happens after EOD for both PR and VT?

[snowy801]

Alarming how much support for voting out Jasnah swelled. But let me catch up

[kgray]

Wtf why is bozo on flum lol

Bozo voted for "FlyingFluminator" so I'm not sure which of them he meant or whether he was just fucking around.

It's not like Bozo to fuck around.

Yeah bozo sus should be wagon

##vote bozo

Neither of these takes seem very compelling to me. Bozo has a sense of humor

[Chaqa]

I'm just not able to ignore that we have two competing hardclaims of Miller.

One of them has to go.

I strongly believe Bunny is the real Miller, so jasnah is the only person I will vote today at this point.

Might be the simplistic view of it, but i think getting too fancy and letting this drag on til later in the game when we can't afford to sort it out is dangerous. We don't always need to pull off some 10,000 IQ play. This is the logically correct choice.

##VOTE Chaqa

Scum Chaqa hides behind black and white views ("everyone on the D1 scum wagon must be town"). Town Chaqa understands nuance.

This is a Chaqa heuristic I can get behind, he's that way in Among Us as well.

Welcome to the town pile, there are drinks in the back

Wow I thought the list was kinda bad but not in a scum bad kinda way. Why are you voting him ghug

Tryhardy D1 Chaqa is scum Chaqa.

He’s not that consistent. Loathe as some of you are to admit it, his mafia play defies simplistic heuristics.

Which is it, Eden?

Seeing an easy opportunity to get me miskilled?

[ghug]

Not really no. Was it due to me saying if the emoji was a scum signal or not?

Yes, the implication being that as an actual scum member you ought to have known that they would not have had an opportunity to arrange such signals.

Which then rests on the belief that you are new and unable to manufacture such a belief. I figure you ought to know why you're being talked about.

As for Chaqa putting a target about your back, what do you think? Why would he do such a thing, do you imagine?

Ahh I assumed scum had that scum channel thingy I read about in other player role games (tbf I have only read the players roles of like 5 games at random) so I assumed this game batch of scum also had that scum chat. Didn't realize it was only for night time and not day time.

And I buy the townslip now too.

[Fluminator]

Lol who had that read that when Jamie is amiable he's scum?

I did, but it's a bit outdated. In the game I was ghost he was both town and amiable. He still reacted in ways that made me strong townread him by the end though.

[BunnyGo]

Woo 100 pages.

So I have a date today and wondering how I schedule things. What happens after EOD for both PR and VT?

"Night" lasts 24 hours. During that time the scum team can chat in a private QuickTopic thread. This thread remains open to all. And the PRs can send messages (via PM or discord or whatnot) to the GMs to activate their actions.

[kgray]

Bunny, what do you think the motive for Jasnah claiming miller was?

I'm entirely not sure. She could be scum making a big brain play (never seen her as scum). She could be town trying to DO SOMETHING. But what that something is, I don't know.

Maybe she thought she was clearing herself because scum wouldn't do that?

I find jasnah very hard to read, because on the one hand she is very clever and logical. On the other hand, she has a real temper which prevents her from playing things well sometimes; she'd rather throw for some sense of justice than win. She also has low opinions of most other people (many of us did/do/will). Put this all together and I just expect her to DO STUFF and then blame others when it doesn't work, and be elated when it does. But I don't claim to be able to say what her plans are.

This meshes with my view of jasnah from the one or two mafia games we played together previously. I found her to be one of my least favorite people to play with. At best we're flipping a mafia. At worst we're flipping a destructive town member whose ego and bullheadedness will keep from being useful to catching mafia.

You guys just don't like her because she embraces the egomaniac schtick rather than trying to justify it all with boisterous self-important ramblings like basically everyone else here.

[Chaqa]

Lol who had that read that when Jamie is amiable he's scum?

It's a ping on my radar, but you missed the context of Jamie being replaced from the last game he was in because of his playstyle, so he's probably on his best behavior.

[Jamiet99uk]

I think I might be on to you because I notice you're going for a lot of low hanging uncontroversial fruit which is usually your M/O as scum. I was suprised to see how many posts you have because you haven't stood out.
But I've wrongly scumread you once so I'm a little more gunshy on you too. But I think you should at least be wagoned at this point.

Nah, I do that as all three alignments, because I'm something of a simpleton.

[BesharamSabi]

Woo 100 pages.

So I have a date today and wondering how I schedule things. What happens after EOD for both PR and VT?

"Night" lasts 24 hours. During that time the scum team can chat in a private QuickTopic thread. This thread remains open to all. And the PRs can send messages (via PM or discord or whatnot) to the GMs to activate their actions.

But like what actually happens at night? Like do people still chat in here or is it just quiet in here like a break?

[kgray]

I'm entirely not sure. She could be scum making a big brain play (never seen her as scum). She could be town trying to DO SOMETHING. But what that something is, I don't know.

Maybe she thought she was clearing herself because scum wouldn't do that?

I find jasnah very hard to read, because on the one hand she is very clever and logical. On the other hand, she has a real temper which prevents her from playing things well sometimes; she'd rather throw for some sense of justice than win. She also has low opinions of most other people (many of us did/do/will). Put this all together and I just expect her to DO STUFF and then blame others when it doesn't work, and be elated when it does. But I don't claim to be able to say what her plans are.

This meshes with my view of jasnah from the one or two mafia games we played together previously. I found her to be one of my least favorite people to play with. At best we're flipping a mafia. At worst we're flipping a destructive town member whose ego and bullheadedness will keep from being useful to catching mafia.

Oh that's why you're so keen on flipping jasnah. I can sympathize with that since I also often am tempted to flip people based on how much they irritate me.

Durga wat

[Jamiet99uk]

Woo 100 pages.

So I have a date today and wondering how I schedule things. What happens after EOD for both PR and VT?

"Night" lasts 24 hours. During that time the scum team can chat in a private QuickTopic thread. This thread remains open to all. And the PRs can send messages (via PM or discord or whatnot) to the GMs to activate their actions.

Plus, unlike on some other Mafia sites, we can still talk in this game thread during the night. Some crappy sites ban town from talking at night, which is boring and sucky.

[Chaqa]

Woo 100 pages.

So I have a date today and wondering how I schedule things. What happens after EOD for both PR and VT?

Fake date, must be scum