M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

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Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

#11421 Post by President Eden » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:04 am

ghug wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:53 am
What's concern trolling?
Concern trolling is raising ostensibly genuine concerns in a disingenuous way to covertly derail or poison discussion while having a superficially plausible fallback story if accused.

It comes up in political discussions online, where members of a given faction will be debating how to approach a policy question, and someone outside the faction arrives to give their opinion and concerns. This person might be genuine or might not, but you would be suspicious of the motives of an outsider coming in and trying to steer the discourse a certain way.

In this context, you essentially agreed with my premise that we should treat Chaqa as a solved question unless a living player counterclaims, due to the low likelihood of a dead player being the real Cop, but were still finding a way to use it to suspect me. I’ll grant you that you could have genuinely been concerned about my progression (which is why I framed it with the gentler “feels like concern trolling” rather than “is concern trolling”), but on reflection it comes off like mafia fishing for a reason to suspect someone in the pool rather than as genuine interest in the question.

Your position also takes the posture that we should leave options open with respect to the clears, while still siding with treating them as clears, which strikes me as the angle mafia would take. (This is not a very powerful argument though as it’s also a plausible town stance.)
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#11422 Post by snowy801 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:05 am

ghug wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:03 am
snowy801 wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:01 am
ghug wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:59 am


I think he's been in more final 3s/4s and been the N1 kill more than anyone else in the last 10-15 games.
A man of extremes I see

if he always wins at lylo maybe the play is to actually just let him through
He's 1 for 2 in the ones I can remember, though the loss was Jamie's fault (or my great play), not his.
Some burdens are simply too heavy to carry
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#11423 Post by President Eden » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:05 am

Chaqa wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:59 am
I think I'm staying on snowy unless there's some traction on ghug.
i say we kill him

##VOTE ghug
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#11424 Post by snowy801 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:06 am

Don't think it's ghug either

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#11425 Post by snowy801 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:07 am

I do like how politically neutral you phrased that

All the examples that came to me were not a discussion I wanted to start here (or anywhere really)
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#11426 Post by ghug » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:07 am

snowy801 wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:06 am
Don't think it's ghug either

sigh
What do you think of my concerns with Eden's Chaqa progression?
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#11427 Post by President Eden » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:07 am

snowy801 wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:06 am
Don't think it's ghug either

sigh
Kinda running out of people to suspect here bud
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#11428 Post by President Eden » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:08 am

snowy801 wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:07 am
I do like how politically neutral you phrased that

All the examples that came to me were not a discussion I wanted to start here (or anywhere really)
I edited out like three very politically charged examples for exactly that reason lol
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#11429 Post by Chaqa » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:09 am

ghug wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:00 am
Chaqa wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:59 am
I think I'm staying on snowy unless there's some traction on ghug.
When you thought I was fakeclaiming cop, you said you were shook that I was scum. What's changed?
The fakeclaim, the opinion on the Oracle, VCA, and your general attidue so far today strike me as off.

Might be over-reacting. I don't know, you haven't given me a clear town or scum vibe this whole game which is why I thought you might be a PR.
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#11430 Post by snowy801 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:09 am

ghug wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:07 am
snowy801 wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:06 am
Don't think it's ghug either

sigh
What do you think of my concerns with Eden's Chaqa progression?
I don't think his flip was unnatural because that's when mine came

I think his concern was unnatural to begin with. Everyone was thinking it, why was he so loud about it? It was a (largely) self resolving issue.

He did the same thing about worcej when he first claimed and got slammed in the face for it.

I think he's town though so eh. I feel like I keep saying this about a lot of people
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#11431 Post by snowy801 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:11 am

President Eden wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:08 am
snowy801 wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:07 am
I do like how politically neutral you phrased that

All the examples that came to me were not a discussion I wanted to start here (or anywhere really)
I edited out like three very politically charged examples for exactly that reason lol
I have suspects both public and private, the former of which you ought to be aware

And how am I to know whether my PR suspects have any merit while the PoE yet remains unflipped?

Let those fuckers handle it I say, I'm just pointing at the likely suspects
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#11432 Post by snowy801 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:11 am

President Eden wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:07 am
snowy801 wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:06 am
Don't think it's ghug either

sigh
Kinda running out of people to suspect here bud
err I meant to quote this for the above post
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#11433 Post by ghug » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:12 am

snowy801 wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:09 am
ghug wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:07 am
snowy801 wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:06 am
Don't think it's ghug either

sigh
What do you think of my concerns with Eden's Chaqa progression?
I don't think his flip was unnatural because that's when mine came

I think his concern was unnatural to begin with. Everyone was thinking it, why was he so loud about it? It was a (largely) self resolving issue.

He did the same thing about worcej when he first claimed and got slammed in the face for it.

I think he's town though so eh. I feel like I keep saying this about a lot of people
I thought I had a townie explanation for it, being the arguing with Chaqa like a married couple, but I can't understand why that would suddenly stop.

Idk man, I'm at the point where i don't think it's you, I don't think it's Doom, I don't think it's Sabi, and I don't think it's kgray. I'd like to believe the game just ends when we kill Rivera, but that doesn't seem that likely.
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#11434 Post by worcej » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:13 am

FWIW, my child is fine and all is good.

I see my vote didn't log and we're not ending, so ##vote BesharamSabi
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#11435 Post by snowy801 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:14 am

It was nice while it lasted but it kinda feels like we've gone back to the good ole "only half the players are playing" mode
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#11436 Post by snowy801 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:14 am

worcej wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:13 am
FWIW, my child is fine and all is good.

I see my vote didn't log and we're not ending, so ##vote BesharamSabi
Hi worcej

Didn't know your child had problems but glad to hear everything's fine

Why do you scum read Sabi? I heard it before I just want to see if there's any updates
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#11437 Post by President Eden » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:15 am

ghug wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:12 am
snowy801 wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:09 am
ghug wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:07 am


What do you think of my concerns with Eden's Chaqa progression?
I don't think his flip was unnatural because that's when mine came

I think his concern was unnatural to begin with. Everyone was thinking it, why was he so loud about it? It was a (largely) self resolving issue.

He did the same thing about worcej when he first claimed and got slammed in the face for it.

I think he's town though so eh. I feel like I keep saying this about a lot of people
I thought I had a townie explanation for it, being the arguing with Chaqa like a married couple, but I can't understand why that would suddenly stop.

Idk man, I'm at the point where i don't think it's you, I don't think it's Doom, I don't think it's Sabi, and I don't think it's kgray. I'd like to believe the game just ends when we kill Rivera, but that doesn't seem that likely.
what about venkna
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#11438 Post by snowy801 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:17 am

ghug wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:12 am
snowy801 wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:09 am
ghug wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:07 am


What do you think of my concerns with Eden's Chaqa progression?
I don't think his flip was unnatural because that's when mine came

I think his concern was unnatural to begin with. Everyone was thinking it, why was he so loud about it? It was a (largely) self resolving issue.

He did the same thing about worcej when he first claimed and got slammed in the face for it.

I think he's town though so eh. I feel like I keep saying this about a lot of people
I thought I had a townie explanation for it, being the arguing with Chaqa like a married couple, but I can't understand why that would suddenly stop.

Idk man, I'm at the point where i don't think it's you, I don't think it's Doom, I don't think it's Sabi, and I don't think it's kgray. I'd like to believe the game just ends when we kill Rivera, but that doesn't seem that likely.
Pile Eden on top and that's also where I am

I'm sure it'll work itself out. No matter what way you slice it it's like 13-2 at most I think with at least 3 solid clears
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#11439 Post by Bonatogether » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:17 am

snowy801 wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:56 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:53 am
snowy801 wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:50 am
bona why are you voting rivera?
He hasn't been solvey like I remember him as in these sorts of situations.

Also he met his scumtell of not dying n1 8-)
That's a hell of a scumtell

How reliable is it?
it's sort of scum indicative

he only ever dies n1 when he's town
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#11440 Post by President Eden » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:18 am

snowy801 wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:17 am
ghug wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:12 am
snowy801 wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:09 am


I don't think his flip was unnatural because that's when mine came

I think his concern was unnatural to begin with. Everyone was thinking it, why was he so loud about it? It was a (largely) self resolving issue.

He did the same thing about worcej when he first claimed and got slammed in the face for it.

I think he's town though so eh. I feel like I keep saying this about a lot of people
I thought I had a townie explanation for it, being the arguing with Chaqa like a married couple, but I can't understand why that would suddenly stop.

Idk man, I'm at the point where i don't think it's you, I don't think it's Doom, I don't think it's Sabi, and I don't think it's kgray. I'd like to believe the game just ends when we kill Rivera, but that doesn't seem that likely.
Pile Eden on top and that's also where I am

I'm sure it'll work itself out. No matter what way you slice it it's like 13-2 at most I think with at least 3 solid clears
what about venkna
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