M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

No

How unhelpful of you.

I've just worked out something else about you.

And you’re right!

Dammit Bunny.

[President Eden]

I always found the exercise of reading too much into the night kill to be futile. For example, one time my team night killed worcej, and someone said "well obviously it wasn't Durga because she wouldn't NK worcej" - and as true as that statement was, the team decided.

I somewhat agree, in the sense that we don’t know what the whole team is thinking about, and we lack their info to intuit their perspective, but there’s something to be said for the fact that they had two almost free shots on Chaqa or Bona depending on which they favored.

Though rivera makes a great point that they might have still been worried about the JOAT save

[kgray]

Wait how am I just noticing that Vecna didn't leave bozo's wagon when he claimed and only moved to Tom once worcej claimed?

Okay also Eden didn't move off bozo when bozo claimed because he'd already moved to worcej at that point. And his response to worcej CCing was 'lmao' and shading people for voting a 3rd party. When he'd been voting for bozo and worcej at various points throughout the day, so clearly didn't have a strong preference over which to believe.



Maybe I need to actually go back and look at votes.

Your timing on my third party comment is a bit off. It came after bozo’s claim but before worcej’s. To me it seemed you should either vote worcej (if you believed bozo and wanted to keep the Doc claimant alive) or bozo (if you didn’t believe bozo and thus thought he was mafia).

When worcej CC’d I was somewhere between stupefied and laughing my ass off, and thinking about how to tie the vote because we had no time to process the claims. I realized I had no way of knowing how the votes would break to try to tie it and just kinda sat on worcej because I didn’t know what to do. As it happens we tied anyway.

Oh you're right, okay. My bad.

I guess I don't really understand not wanting to move to Tom, if we didn't have time to process the claims. People voting bozo because they believed worcej makes sense to me, and people voting Tom to avoid a doc claimant makes sense to me. Freezing for 2 minutes and staying on worcej doesn't really make sense.

[kgray]

Bozo doctor

bozo lie

Probably, but that means we got two scum so worth

@snowy what does this mean? Who's the second scum?

[Chaqa]

Wisdom oft comes from the mouth of babes...

Haven't all of the "new" players (Lfischl, Doom, Sabi, jasnah) been sus of Eden?

I'd like to call attention back to this theory I had earlier.

Kinda works whether jasnah is town or scum

You think scum!Eden wanted to NK lfishcl because lfischl scumread him?

I can't possible imagine a scenario where scum is so afraid of lfischl's pressure that they fearkill him.

No, but Eden thought Lfischl was a PR, and we had all four "newbs" scumming Eden. Just a thought that maybe they are onto something.

[kgray]

I'd like to call attention back to this theory I had earlier.

Kinda works whether jasnah is town or scum

You think scum!Eden wanted to NK lfishcl because lfischl scumread him?

I can't possible imagine a scenario where scum is so afraid of lfischl's pressure that they fearkill him.

No, but Eden thought Lfischl was a PR, and we had all four "newbs" scumming Eden. Just a thought that maybe they are onto something.

Yeah I don't know about Eden anymore.

[Chaqa]

I want to vote from the PoE consensus pool, but also on someone who hammered Bozo.

I think mafia would try to be part of that to gain town cred.

One of:
Vecna
Jamie
Snowy

##Vote Snowy

[President Eden]

I'd like to call attention back to this theory I had earlier.

Kinda works whether jasnah is town or scum

You think scum!Eden wanted to NK lfishcl because lfischl scumread him?

I can't possible imagine a scenario where scum is so afraid of lfischl's pressure that they fearkill him.

No, but Eden thought Lfischl was a PR, and we had all four "newbs" scumming Eden. Just a thought that maybe they are onto something.

So instead of RBing the known Doc and shooting the claimed Cop I’m over here trying to outmuscle 14-15 townies (depending on jasnah) to get an un-cc’d Cop miskilled, and to do it I’m shooting random people who occasionally suspect me instead of vocal townies that might resist my plan? Come on. At least have a coherent theory for why a mafia team would do something.

[Chaqa]

Of the suspects not on the Bozo wagon, I think I would vote rivera before ghug or kgray at the moment.

[Chaqa]

You think scum!Eden wanted to NK lfishcl because lfischl scumread him?

I can't possible imagine a scenario where scum is so afraid of lfischl's pressure that they fearkill him.

No, but Eden thought Lfischl was a PR, and we had all four "newbs" scumming Eden. Just a thought that maybe they are onto something.

So instead of RBing the known Doc and shooting the claimed Cop I’m over here trying to outmuscle 14-15 townies (depending on jasnah) to get an un-cc’d Cop miskilled, and to do it I’m shooting random people who occasionally suspect me instead of vocal townies that might resist my plan? Come on. At least have a coherent theory for why a mafia team would do something.

Maybe you're taking a page from my playbook and doing random shit.

TBH I think the last two are simply Snowy and like one of (kgray/rivera/ghug/Vecna/Jamie) though

[President Eden]

Okay also Eden didn't move off bozo when bozo claimed because he'd already moved to worcej at that point. And his response to worcej CCing was 'lmao' and shading people for voting a 3rd party. When he'd been voting for bozo and worcej at various points throughout the day, so clearly didn't have a strong preference over which to believe.



Maybe I need to actually go back and look at votes.

Your timing on my third party comment is a bit off. It came after bozo’s claim but before worcej’s. To me it seemed you should either vote worcej (if you believed bozo and wanted to keep the Doc claimant alive) or bozo (if you didn’t believe bozo and thus thought he was mafia).

When worcej CC’d I was somewhere between stupefied and laughing my ass off, and thinking about how to tie the vote because we had no time to process the claims. I realized I had no way of knowing how the votes would break to try to tie it and just kinda sat on worcej because I didn’t know what to do. As it happens we tied anyway.

Oh you're right, okay. My bad.

I guess I don't really understand not wanting to move to Tom, if we didn't have time to process the claims. People voting bozo because they believed worcej makes sense to me, and people voting Tom to avoid a doc claimant makes sense to me. Freezing for 2 minutes and staying on worcej doesn't really make sense.

Shrug
I think I’d have acted more decisively if I knew what was happening, but in retrospect voting Tom was probably better.

[President Eden]

No, but Eden thought Lfischl was a PR, and we had all four "newbs" scumming Eden. Just a thought that maybe they are onto something.

So instead of RBing the known Doc and shooting the claimed Cop I’m over here trying to outmuscle 14-15 townies (depending on jasnah) to get an un-cc’d Cop miskilled, and to do it I’m shooting random people who occasionally suspect me instead of vocal townies that might resist my plan? Come on. At least have a coherent theory for why a mafia team would do something.

Maybe you're taking a page from my playbook and doing random shit.

TBH I think the last two are simply Snowy and like one of (kgray/rivera/ghug/Vecna/Jamie) though

You don’t actually believe that you just do random shit. The hell. Why do you keep saying things that I know you don’t believe this game?

[Fluminator]

I'm still waiting a little bit before I make my move

But also, who else enjoyed the cryptocurrency jump by 10% last night?

[Chaqa]

So instead of RBing the known Doc and shooting the claimed Cop I’m over here trying to outmuscle 14-15 townies (depending on jasnah) to get an un-cc’d Cop miskilled, and to do it I’m shooting random people who occasionally suspect me instead of vocal townies that might resist my plan? Come on. At least have a coherent theory for why a mafia team would do something.

Maybe you're taking a page from my playbook and doing random shit.

TBH I think the last two are simply Snowy and like one of (kgray/rivera/ghug/Vecna/Jamie) though

You don’t actually believe that you just do random shit. The hell. Why do you keep saying things that I know you don’t believe this game?

Master Burglar is my least favorite card in Clank

[President Eden]

Maybe you're taking a page from my playbook and doing random shit.

TBH I think the last two are simply Snowy and like one of (kgray/rivera/ghug/Vecna/Jamie) though

You don’t actually believe that you just do random shit. The hell. Why do you keep saying things that I know you don’t believe this game?

Master Burglar is my least favorite card in Clank

Look, insincerity is one thing, but heresy? You’ve gone too far

[Chaqa]

You don’t actually believe that you just do random shit. The hell. Why do you keep saying things that I know you don’t believe this game?

Master Burglar is my least favorite card in Clank

Look, insincerity is one thing, but heresy? You’ve gone too far

Claw decks are an inherently bad strategy in Slay the Spire.

[Jamiet99uk]

Does Jamie's voting record really make sense as scum?

I'm just not sure what to make of these nightkills either.

I could see Jamie maybe doing it or Vecna. Who kills Lfischl???

My voting record as scum is not something you can really rely on because about 60% of the time I bus really hard, and about 40% of the time I avoid bussing.

My voting behaviour in this game has been 100% town motivated because I'm town.

[Jamiet99uk]

I always found the exercise of reading too much into the night kill to be futile. For example, one time my team night killed worcej, and someone said "well obviously it wasn't Durga because she wouldn't NK worcej" - and as true as that statement was, the team decided.

I think the choice of Lfischl may have achieved the desired outcome of confusing us all.

Plus they chose someone who was very unlikely to be Docsaved, so there's that as well.

[President Eden]

Master Burglar is my least favorite card in Clank

Look, insincerity is one thing, but heresy? You’ve gone too far

Claw decks are an inherently bad strategy in Slay the Spire.

Counterbalancing your heresy with some very uncontroversial orthodoxy gets you nowhere, sinner

Does Jamie's voting record really make sense as scum?

I'm just not sure what to make of these nightkills either.

I could see Jamie maybe doing it or Vecna. Who kills Lfischl???

My voting record as scum is not something you can really rely on because about 60% of the time I bus really hard, and about 40% of the time I avoid bussing.

My voting behaviour in this game has been 100% town motivated because I'm town.

Oh well gee now that he's said it we know

[Jamiet99uk]

More information on my BunnyGo theory can be found at:
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